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bought non-wireless priinter by mistake
My friend didn't think about wireless or laptops and bought a printer
without wireless. It connects ONLY by USB. It's too late to return it. a) I know you can disconnect a USB harddrive by just pulling the cord out, or you risk losing data**, but what's the most damage you could do just by unplugging a printer? Interrupt the job and have to print it again? And not even that if your last print job has already printed? Or if it had stopped with an error message? Maybe he can just transfer the cable from the desktop to the laptop when he wants to print. b) Or he can leave the printer connected to his desktop computer and if there were some sort of Y USB connector, maybe he could just plug the laptop in to the other fork of the Y. The Y's are called hubs, but I think of them as outgoing to more than one add-on device. Especially powered hubs. Would it work to plug the common port of a hub into the printer, one of the multiple ports into the desktop, and when needed plug the laptop in one of the other mulitple ports. (I don't know what words to use for common and mulitple. I mean input and output, but in this case the data would be going the opposite direction.) I'm interested in all this myself, so any answers for a PC are greatly appreciated. OTOH, he has a Mac. Does that make a difference? Or maybe he can make it wireless. c) I think the cheapest wireless print server I found online was 20 dollars if no one else bids. Used of course. Would anyone buy that, or would you just buy a new wireless printer? If you're curious, here's its ad. http://www.ebay.com/itm/LevelOne-WPS...em20f186d1 15 auction ends at 10:30 tonight Sunday EST d) Hmmm. I have a USB equivalent of an internal wifi card, to receive signals from the router. If it can receive internet signals from the router, can it plug into a USB printer and make a printer accept, printer text signals from the same router, coming from the local network computer instead of the the DSL modem? (I suppose not, or I'd have heard about it, but I don't know why it wouldn't.) **What if you absolutely know you haven't written to a USB hard drive for the last 10 minutes. Is there a chance of losing data or damaging the structure by just pulling out the USB cord, or by turning off t he power to the external drive?? Thanks. |
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micky wrote:
My friend didn't think about wireless or laptops and bought a printer without wireless. It connects ONLY by USB. It's too late to return it. Since that printer was a bargain, now the friend can buy two printers :-) One for each computer. There is no reason for the printer to freak out, if you move the USB connector. Make sure the printer has returned to the home position, before pulling a fast one on it. They make USB sharing boxes, but those don't give me a warm feeling, in terms of how long they last. I have no experience with such things, and I'd rather just move the USB connector. Metal USB connectors are rated at 5000 insertion cycles. Paul |
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On 07/12/2014 20:59, micky wrote:
My friend didn't think about wireless or laptops and bought a printer without wireless. It connects ONLY by USB. It's too late to return it. a) I know you can disconnect a USB harddrive by just pulling the cord out, or you risk losing data**, but what's the most damage you could do just by unplugging a printer? Interrupt the job and have to print it again? And not even that if your last print job has already printed? Or if it had stopped with an error message? Maybe he can just transfer the cable from the desktop to the laptop when he wants to print. b) Or he can leave the printer connected to his desktop computer and if there were some sort of Y USB connector, maybe he could just plug the laptop in to the other fork of the Y. The Y's are called hubs, but I think of them as outgoing to more than one add-on device. Especially powered hubs. Would it work to plug the common port of a hub into the printer, one of the multiple ports into the desktop, and when needed plug the laptop in one of the other mulitple ports. (I don't know what words to use for common and mulitple. I mean input and output, but in this case the data would be going the opposite direction.) I'm interested in all this myself, so any answers for a PC are greatly appreciated. OTOH, he has a Mac. Does that make a difference? Or maybe he can make it wireless. c) I think the cheapest wireless print server I found online was 20 dollars if no one else bids. Used of course. Would anyone buy that, or would you just buy a new wireless printer? If you're curious, here's its ad. http://www.ebay.com/itm/LevelOne-WPS...em20f186d1 15 auction ends at 10:30 tonight Sunday EST d) Hmmm. I have a USB equivalent of an internal wifi card, to receive signals from the router. If it can receive internet signals from the router, can it plug into a USB printer and make a printer accept, printer text signals from the same router, coming from the local network computer instead of the the DSL modem? (I suppose not, or I'd have heard about it, but I don't know why it wouldn't.) **What if you absolutely know you haven't written to a USB hard drive for the last 10 minutes. Is there a chance of losing data or damaging the structure by just pulling out the USB cord, or by turning off t he power to the external drive?? Thanks. All printers I have seen so far are wireless so god knows what it means in your post. However, some computers can be networked and accessed wirelessly so you need to tell us what exactly are you trying to do. To network a printer, it needs to have a network card and some machines come with the card like the HP ones I buy and on some you can insert a network card. On some it is almost impossible to insert the card and so they can be connected using what was called in the XP days as P2P. I don't use XP anymore so I won't talk about this anymore. Basically, the printer in connected to one computer and then all other machines can connect to this computer to print something - this could be wirelessly if you want it or using the cable. Hope you get the idea. |
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In message , Good Guy
writes: On 07/12/2014 20:59, micky wrote: My friend didn't think about wireless or laptops and bought a printer without wireless. It connects ONLY by USB. It's too late to return it. (How much was the printer?) [] c) I think the cheapest wireless print server I found online was 20 dollars if no one else bids. Used of course. Would anyone buy that, or would you just buy a new wireless printer? If you're curious, [] All printers I have seen so far are wireless so god knows what it means in your post.* However, some computers can be networked and accessed Well, you haven't looked too hard; there are still wireless-less (!) printers about, though not too many in the range normally offered to home users. wirelessly so you need to tell us what exactly are you trying to do. [] Yes, it depends why micky's friend wants to make the printer wireless: is it just to avoid being tied to it, or does he want to use it from multiple machines? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Old soldiers never die - only young ones |
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bought non-wireless priinter by mistake
Look into a wireless print server, e.g., this
article is helpful http://www.labnol.org/gadgets/make-w...ireless/12639/ On 12/7/2014 12:59 PM, micky wrote: My friend didn't think about wireless or laptops and bought a printer without wireless. It connects ONLY by USB. It's too late to return it. a) I know you can disconnect a USB harddrive by just pulling the cord out, or you risk losing data**, but what's the most damage you could do just by unplugging a printer? Interrupt the job and have to print it again? And not even that if your last print job has already printed? Or if it had stopped with an error message? Maybe he can just transfer the cable from the desktop to the laptop when he wants to print. b) Or he can leave the printer connected to his desktop computer and if there were some sort of Y USB connector, maybe he could just plug the laptop in to the other fork of the Y. The Y's are called hubs, but I think of them as outgoing to more than one add-on device. Especially powered hubs. Would it work to plug the common port of a hub into the printer, one of the multiple ports into the desktop, and when needed plug the laptop in one of the other mulitple ports. (I don't know what words to use for common and mulitple. I mean input and output, but in this case the data would be going the opposite direction.) I'm interested in all this myself, so any answers for a PC are greatly appreciated. OTOH, he has a Mac. Does that make a difference? Or maybe he can make it wireless. c) I think the cheapest wireless print server I found online was 20 dollars if no one else bids. Used of course. Would anyone buy that, or would you just buy a new wireless printer? If you're curious, here's its ad. http://www.ebay.com/itm/LevelOne-WPS...em20f186d1 15 auction ends at 10:30 tonight Sunday EST d) Hmmm. I have a USB equivalent of an internal wifi card, to receive signals from the router. If it can receive internet signals from the router, can it plug into a USB printer and make a printer accept, printer text signals from the same router, coming from the local network computer instead of the the DSL modem? (I suppose not, or I'd have heard about it, but I don't know why it wouldn't.) **What if you absolutely know you haven't written to a USB hard drive for the last 10 minutes. Is there a chance of losing data or damaging the structure by just pulling out the USB cord, or by turning off t he power to the external drive?? Thanks. |
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On 12/7/2014 3:59 PM, micky wrote:
My friend didn't think about wireless or laptops and bought a printer without wireless. It connects ONLY by USB. It's too late to return it. a) I know you can disconnect a USB harddrive by just pulling the cord out, or you risk losing data**, but what's the most damage you could do just by unplugging a printer? Interrupt the job and have to print it again? And not even that if your last print job has already printed? Or if it had stopped with an error message? Maybe he can just transfer the cable from the desktop to the laptop when he wants to print. b) Or he can leave the printer connected to his desktop computer and if there were some sort of Y USB connector, maybe he could just plug the laptop in to the other fork of the Y. The Y's are called hubs, but I think of them as outgoing to more than one add-on device. Especially powered hubs. Would it work to plug the common port of a hub into the printer, one of the multiple ports into the desktop, and when needed plug the laptop in one of the other mulitple ports. (I don't know what words to use for common and mulitple. I mean input and output, but in this case the data would be going the opposite direction.) I'm interested in all this myself, so any answers for a PC are greatly appreciated. OTOH, he has a Mac. Does that make a difference? Or maybe he can make it wireless. c) I think the cheapest wireless print server I found online was 20 dollars if no one else bids. Used of course. Would anyone buy that, or would you just buy a new wireless printer? If you're curious, here's its ad. http://www.ebay.com/itm/LevelOne-WPS...em20f186d1 15 auction ends at 10:30 tonight Sunday EST d) Hmmm. I have a USB equivalent of an internal wifi card, to receive signals from the router. If it can receive internet signals from the router, can it plug into a USB printer and make a printer accept, printer text signals from the same router, coming from the local network computer instead of the the DSL modem? (I suppose not, or I'd have heard about it, but I don't know why it wouldn't.) **What if you absolutely know you haven't written to a USB hard drive for the last 10 minutes. Is there a chance of losing data or damaging the structure by just pulling out the USB cord, or by turning off t he power to the external drive?? Thanks. It depends on the printer. If the printer is just a printer and not one of the multi-function printer scanners, you may try this. (I have heard that if the print server is not bidirectional the scanner will not work as it feeds a data stream back to the computer, while the printer accepts the data stream from the computer.) I watched and found the cheapest wired print server I could find. It was A D-Link DP-300U unit, One ethernet and one USB port. I then hooked the print server to the LAN router with a standard LAN cable, and the printer to the print server. With this arrangement, the Print server appears on the Local Area network and I can print from any computer on the LAN, wired or wireless, through the print server. While the printer appears as a LAN printer you must have the printer driver on each computer that uses the printer |
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:59:14 -0500, micky
wrote: My friend didn't think about wireless or laptops and bought a printer without wireless. It connects ONLY by USB. It's too late to return it. Could this be a job for a Raspberry Pi? Anyone tried this? I have been looking for a reason to buy one. a) I know you can disconnect a USB harddrive by just pulling the cord out, or you risk losing data**, but what's the most damage you could do just by unplugging a printer? Interrupt the job and have to print it again? And not even that if your last print job has already printed? Or if it had stopped with an error message? Maybe he can just transfer the cable from the desktop to the laptop when he wants to print. b) Or he can leave the printer connected to his desktop computer and if there were some sort of Y USB connector, maybe he could just plug the laptop in to the other fork of the Y. The Y's are called hubs, but I think of them as outgoing to more than one add-on device. Especially powered hubs. Would it work to plug the common port of a hub into the printer, one of the multiple ports into the desktop, and when needed plug the laptop in one of the other mulitple ports. (I don't know what words to use for common and mulitple. I mean input and output, but in this case the data would be going the opposite direction.) I'm interested in all this myself, so any answers for a PC are greatly appreciated. OTOH, he has a Mac. Does that make a difference? Or maybe he can make it wireless. c) I think the cheapest wireless print server I found online was 20 dollars if no one else bids. Used of course. Would anyone buy that, or would you just buy a new wireless printer? If you're curious, here's its ad. http://www.ebay.com/itm/LevelOne-WPS...em20f186d1 15 auction ends at 10:30 tonight Sunday EST d) Hmmm. I have a USB equivalent of an internal wifi card, to receive signals from the router. If it can receive internet signals from the router, can it plug into a USB printer and make a printer accept, printer text signals from the same router, coming from the local network computer instead of the the DSL modem? (I suppose not, or I'd have heard about it, but I don't know why it wouldn't.) **What if you absolutely know you haven't written to a USB hard drive for the last 10 minutes. Is there a chance of losing data or damaging the structure by just pulling out the USB cord, or by turning off t he power to the external drive?? Thanks. |
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On 12/7/14 1:59 PM, micky wrote:
snip OTOH, he has a Mac. Does that make a difference? It shouldn't. You didn't say which computer was the Mac. If it's the desktop, and relatively new (mine is 5.5 years old), wireless is built-in, unlike Windows desktops I've seen. All of the solutions provided should work, but I networked my Windows computers and this Mac, and attached the USB printer to the Mac. I have a network printer now. I am not a wireless fan, so only my Win 7 netbook used wireless. When I wanted to print something from a Windows computer, I just selected the printer, actually it was the default printer, and printed. The downside in this type of scenario is the computer that has the printer connected must be on. And possibly logged in, I don't know for sure since the Mac was always on. snip -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 25.0 Thunderbird 24.6.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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bought non-wireless priinter by mistake
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:00:07 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote: On 12/7/14 1:59 PM, micky wrote: snip OTOH, he has a Mac. Does that make a difference? It shouldn't. You didn't say which computer was the Mac. If it's the desktop, and The desktop he has now is a Mac, and so old it won't even run the printer. And recently he found files it wouldnt' download because it was so old. Mac OS 10.4, I think. I forget what aniimal that is. relatively new (mine is 5.5 years old), wireless is built-in, unlike Oh good. I think he bought a new Mac desktop 2 months ago but hasn't had time to take it out of the box. Either the desktop or the printer, he says, he's used two months of hte 12-month warranty and still doesn't know if they work. He keeps busy with his job and other worthwhile things. Often helping other people, no less. Windows desktops I've seen. All of the solutions provided should work, but I networked my Windows computers and this Mac, and attached the USB printer to the Mac. I have a network printer now. I am not a wireless fan, so only my Win 7 netbook used wireless. When I wanted to print something from a Windows computer, I just selected the printer, actually it was the default printer, and printed. The downside in this type of scenario is the computer that has the printer connected must be on. He may leave his desktop on all the time. I was surprissed when I heard that. And possibly logged in, I don't know for sure since the Mac was always on. When I met him he had no computer at all, years after everyone else did. Now he has a Mac that's gotten too old, one that's new but in the box, and an Acer netbook running XP that I'm sure would work with the new printer, but he doesn't use much. Oh, and an Ipad. And IIUC, he has an Apple laptop still in the box. But he doesn't waste money in any other way, and even this is small compared to most people. I ended up buying the wireless print server that no one else bid on, for 15 + 6 dolllars. It 's going to take months his new stuff running, but this is a start. The wireless print server that I didn't understand, because it was a card that went into the printer, rreally did go into the printer. It was a big printer with fancy options, like for an office. I'm going to read over all the answers again and think about how they apply to me and to him, and his landlady who sometimes depends on me to fix her computer, and another family with 4 laptops, one for each of them who only needed me twice iirc in several years. Thank you and everyone else for the help. snip |
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On 12/8/14 9:29 PM, micky wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:00:07 -0700, Ken Springer wrote: On 12/7/14 1:59 PM, micky wrote: snip OTOH, he has a Mac. Does that make a difference? It shouldn't. You didn't say which computer was the Mac. If it's the desktop, and The desktop he has now is a Mac, and so old it won't even run the printer. And recently he found files it wouldnt' download because it was so old. Mac OS 10.4, I think. I forget what aniimal that is. Tiger. This iMac came with 10.5, Leopard. It's also the first Mac I've ever bought. relatively new (mine is 5.5 years old), wireless is built-in, unlike Oh good. I think he bought a new Mac desktop 2 months ago but hasn't had time to take it out of the box. Either the desktop or the printer, he says, he's used two months of hte 12-month warranty and still doesn't know if they work. He keeps busy with his job and other worthwhile things. Often helping other people, no less. Windows desktops I've seen. All of the solutions provided should work, but I networked my Windows computers and this Mac, and attached the USB printer to the Mac. I have a network printer now. I am not a wireless fan, so only my Win 7 netbook used wireless. When I wanted to print something from a Windows computer, I just selected the printer, actually it was the default printer, and printed. The downside in this type of scenario is the computer that has the printer connected must be on. He may leave his desktop on all the time. I was surprissed when I heard that. And possibly logged in, I don't know for sure since the Mac was always on. When I met him he had no computer at all, years after everyone else did. Now he has a Mac that's gotten too old, one that's new but in the box, and an Acer netbook running XP that I'm sure would work with the new printer, but he doesn't use much. Oh, and an Ipad. And IIUC, he has an Apple laptop still in the box. But he doesn't waste money in any other way, and even this is small compared to most people. If he has a new Mac desktop, a new Mac laptop, and an iPad, why bother with the old stuff? It seems a waste of time to me. Back when my Mac was new, I took it to my inlaws to show them a Mac. They are all Windows users. Their son brought his HP XP laptop. It took me about 10 minutes to get connected to their network. It took their son 3 hours to get his XP laptop connected. No joke. IMO, you guys are wasting your time with getting the old equipment to work together. If you set up the new stuff, and if he has an Apple account, all three Apple products should talk to each other without a hitch. For Apple apps, lets say the notepad, if you enter something into the notepad app on the desktop, in a couple of minutes the data you entered will be downloaded to the laptop and iPad. And vice-versa. Caveat... The age and model of the iPad may be an issue. I'm not a big Apple user, no iPad, no iPhone, no iPod, etc. I don't buy a product because it's Apple, I buy what fits my needs/desires/wants. My tablet is a Google Nexus 7, which is Android. :-) I ended up buying the wireless print server that no one else bid on, for 15 + 6 dolllars. It 's going to take months his new stuff running, but this is a start. ?????? The last sentence isn't making any sense to me. It shouldn't take much time at all to get the new stuff running, if it's all Apple. Unless the problem is one of simply getting together to do it. G The wireless print server that I didn't understand, because it was a card that went into the printer, rreally did go into the printer. It was a big printer with fancy options, like for an office. I'm going to read over all the answers again and think about how they apply to me and to him, and his landlady who sometimes depends on me to fix her computer, and another family with 4 laptops, one for each of them who only needed me twice iirc in several years. Thank you and everyone else for the help. snip -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 33.1 Thunderbird 31.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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