Why are external drives cheaper than internal?

On 01/23/2016 12:24 AM, Sam wrote:

How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for less
than they sell any 6TB internal drive?

reliability?

Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least in
some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure, wall
wart, and USB interface and cable.

Perce

On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 10:32:09 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 01/23/2016 12:24 AM, Sam wrote:

How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for less
than they sell any 6TB internal drive?

reliability?

Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least in
some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure, wall
wart, and USB interface and cable.

Perce

Warranty period.

Internal drives typically have a 3-yr warranty. External devices are
usually warranted for 1-2 yrs. So the drive mfr has passed the cost of
service and replacement to the reseller. To make the cost of the
external box acceptable, the cost of the drive (to the reseller) must
be fairly low.

Also remember, the reseller must buy a fairly large number of the
drives in order to get the lower price. Thus, the drive mfr is getting
a chunk of "cash now" and avoiding all those expenses in the future
(warranty replacement, etc) related to those bulk-sale drives.

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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 10:32:09 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 01/23/2016 12:24 AM, Sam wrote:

How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for
less
than they sell any 6TB internal drive?

reliability?

Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least in
some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure, wall
wart, and USB interface and cable.

Perce

Warranty period.

Internal drives typically have a 3-yr warranty. External devices are
usually warranted for 1-2 yrs. So the drive mfr has passed the cost of
service and replacement to the reseller. To make the cost of the
external box acceptable, the cost of the drive (to the reseller) must
be fairly low.

Also remember, the reseller must buy a fairly large number of the
drives in order to get the lower price. Thus, the drive mfr is getting
a chunk of "cash now" and avoiding all those expenses in the future
(warranty replacement, etc) related to those bulk-sale drives.

The problem with that theory is that the same external
drive has a 3 year warranty here, but a 1 year warranty
in the US and is cheaper than the same drive bare here.

The real reason they are often cheaper is just the usual
reason, they sell in higher volume than internal drives
in the retail market.

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 05:06:56 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 10:32:09 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 01/23/2016 12:24 AM, Sam wrote:

How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for
less
than they sell any 6TB internal drive?

reliability?

Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least in
some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure, wall
wart, and USB interface and cable.

Perce

Warranty period.

Internal drives typically have a 3-yr warranty. External devices are
usually warranted for 1-2 yrs. So the drive mfr has passed the cost of
service and replacement to the reseller. To make the cost of the
external box acceptable, the cost of the drive (to the reseller) must
be fairly low.

Also remember, the reseller must buy a fairly large number of the
drives in order to get the lower price. Thus, the drive mfr is getting
a chunk of "cash now" and avoiding all those expenses in the future
(warranty replacement, etc) related to those bulk-sale drives.

The problem with that theory is that the same external
drive has a 3 year warranty here, but a 1 year warranty
in the US and is cheaper than the same drive bare here.

Learn how businesses operate. The laws regarding warranties in other
countries are not the same as the US.

The real reason they are often cheaper is just the usual
reason, they sell in higher volume than internal drives
in the retail market.

Nope. They are all internal drives. All the external mfrs (OEMs) do is
put the internal drives in external boxes and resell the package with
a different warranty--one they create. This OEM warranty is not
dependent on the drive manufacturer's warranty for an internal drive
sold to the public. In the US, the drive manufacturer will not honor
any warranty for the drives sold to the OEM unless the claim is made
by the OEM against the drive manufacturer--which requires the consumer
to return the device to the OEM for warranty service. If the device is
out of the OEM's warranty, that is the end of all claims.

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On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 05:06:56 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 10:32:09 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

On 01/23/2016 12:24 AM, Sam wrote:

How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for
less
than they sell any 6TB internal drive?

reliability?

Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least in
some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure, wall
wart, and USB interface and cable.

Perce

Warranty period.

Internal drives typically have a 3-yr warranty. External devices are
usually warranted for 1-2 yrs. So the drive mfr has passed the cost of
service and replacement to the reseller. To make the cost of the
external box acceptable, the cost of the drive (to the reseller) must
be fairly low.

Also remember, the reseller must buy a fairly large number of the
drives in order to get the lower price. Thus, the drive mfr is getting
a chunk of "cash now" and avoiding all those expenses in the future
(warranty replacement, etc) related to those bulk-sale drives.

The problem with that theory is that the same external
drive has a 3 year warranty here, but a 1 year warranty
in the US and is cheaper than the same drive bare here.

Learn how businesses operate.

Ran more than one thanks.

The laws regarding warranties in other
countries are not the same as the US.

That longer warranty here isnt imposed by law.

The real reason they are often cheaper is just
the usual reason, they sell in higher volume
than internal drives in the retail market.

Nope.

Yep.

They are all internal drives.

Not in the retail market they aren't.

All the external mfrs (OEMs)

Plenty of them are the manufacturer of the drive.

do is put the internal drives in external boxes
and resell the package with a different warranty
--one they create. This OEM warranty

There is no OEM warranty with plenty of external drives.

is not dependent on the drive manufacturer's
warranty for an internal drive sold to the public.

But it is when there is no OEM and the manufacturer of the
drive is the manufacturer of the external format of the drive.

In the US, the drive manufacturer will not honor any
warranty for the drives sold to the OEM unless the claim
is made by the OEM against the drive manufacturer--

There is no OEM with plenty of external drives.

which requires the consumer to return the
device to the OEM for warranty service.

The law varys on that world wide.

If the device is out of the OEM's warranty,
that is the end of all claims.

Its nothing like as black and white as that world wide.

On 01/25/2016 10:26 AM, wrote:

How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for
less
than they sell any 6TB internal drive?

reliability?

Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least in
some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure, wall
wart, and USB interface and cable.

Warranty period.

Internal drives typically have a 3-yr warranty. External devices are
usually warranted for 1-2 yrs. So the drive mfr has passed the cost of
service and replacement to the reseller. To make the cost of the
external box acceptable, the cost of the drive (to the reseller) must
be fairly low.

Also remember, the reseller must buy a fairly large number of the
drives in order to get the lower price. Thus, the drive mfr is getting
a chunk of "cash now" and avoiding all those expenses in the future
(warranty replacement, etc) related to those bulk-sale drives.

The problem with that theory is that the same external
drive has a 3 year warranty here, but a 1 year warranty
in the US and is cheaper than the same drive bare here.

Learn how businesses operate. The laws regarding warranties in other
countries are not the same as the US.

The real reason they are often cheaper is just the usual
reason, they sell in higher volume than internal drives
in the retail market.

Nope. They are all internal drives. All the external mfrs (OEMs) do is
put the internal drives in external boxes and resell the package with
a different warranty--one they create. This OEM warranty is not
dependent on the drive manufacturer's warranty for an internal drive
sold to the public. In the US, the drive manufacturer will not honor
any warranty for the drives sold to the OEM unless the claim is made
by the OEM against the drive manufacturer--which requires the consumer
to return the device to the OEM for warranty service. If the device is
out of the OEM's warranty, that is the end of all claims.

I was not talking about Seagate drives in "Brand X" enclosures: I was
talking about Seagate-branded external drives vs. Seagate internal
drives of the same capacity -- and in many cases the same model/part# as
what is in the enclosure. IIRC, all have the same 2-year warranty.

Ii haven't looked at other makes.

Perce

On 1/25/2016 7:26 AM, wrote:


Nope. They are all internal drives. All the external mfrs (OEMs) do is
put the internal drives in external boxes and resell the package
....

WD laptop drive size portables, those really little ones, have drives
that only have a USB port on/in them.

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On 01/25/2016 03:38 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for
less
than they sell any 6TB internal drive?

reliability?

Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least in
some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure,
wall
wart, and USB interface and cable.

Warranty period.

Internal drives typically have a 3-yr warranty. External devices are
usually warranted for 1-2 yrs. So the drive mfr has passed the cost of
service and replacement to the reseller. To make the cost of the
external box acceptable, the cost of the drive (to the reseller) must
be fairly low.

Also remember, the reseller must buy a fairly large number of the
drives in order to get the lower price. Thus, the drive mfr is getting
a chunk of "cash now" and avoiding all those expenses in the future
(warranty replacement, etc) related to those bulk-sale drives.

The problem with that theory is that the same external
drive has a 3 year warranty here, but a 1 year warranty
in the US and is cheaper than the same drive bare here.

Learn how businesses operate. The laws regarding warranties in other
countries are not the same as the US.

The real reason they are often cheaper is just the usual
reason, they sell in higher volume than internal drives
in the retail market.

Nope. They are all internal drives. All the external mfrs (OEMs) do is
put the internal drives in external boxes and resell the package with
a different warranty--one they create. This OEM warranty is not
dependent on the drive manufacturer's warranty for an internal drive
sold to the public. In the US, the drive manufacturer will not honor
any warranty for the drives sold to the OEM unless the claim is made
by the OEM against the drive manufacturer--which requires the consumer
to return the device to the OEM for warranty service. If the device is
out of the OEM's warranty, that is the end of all claims.

I was not talking about Seagate drives in "Brand X" enclosures: I was
talking about Seagate-branded external drives vs. Seagate internal
drives of the same capacity -- and in many cases the same model/part# as
what is in the enclosure. IIRC, all have the same 2-year warranty.

Ii haven't looked at other makes.

And now I noticed that BestBuy has 2TB external Seagates (Slim" 2.5"
drive inside) with 3-year warranties whereas the 2TB internal notebook
drive has only a 2-year warranty. Aren't external drives more likely to
suffer rough handling?

Perce

"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote in message
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On 01/25/2016 03:38 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

How come Seagate -- to name just one manufacturer -- can sell an
external 6TB drive in a case with a USB 3.0 adapter and a cable for
less
than they sell any 6TB internal drive?

reliability?

Hardly -- when the drive in the enclosure is the same one (at least
in
some cases) as the one that is sold for more without the enclosure,
wall
wart, and USB interface and cable.

Warranty period.

Internal drives typically have a 3-yr warranty. External devices are
usually warranted for 1-2 yrs. So the drive mfr has passed the cost of
service and replacement to the reseller. To make the cost of the
external box acceptable, the cost of the drive (to the reseller) must
be fairly low.

Also remember, the reseller must buy a fairly large number of the
drives in order to get the lower price. Thus, the drive mfr is getting
a chunk of "cash now" and avoiding all those expenses in the future
(warranty replacement, etc) related to those bulk-sale drives.

The problem with that theory is that the same external
drive has a 3 year warranty here, but a 1 year warranty
in the US and is cheaper than the same drive bare here.

Learn how businesses operate. The laws regarding warranties in other
countries are not the same as the US.

The real reason they are often cheaper is just the usual
reason, they sell in higher volume than internal drives
in the retail market.

Nope. They are all internal drives. All the external mfrs (OEMs) do is
put the internal drives in external boxes and resell the package with
a different warranty--one they create. This OEM warranty is not
dependent on the drive manufacturer's warranty for an internal drive
sold to the public. In the US, the drive manufacturer will not honor
any warranty for the drives sold to the OEM unless the claim is made
by the OEM against the drive manufacturer--which requires the consumer
to return the device to the OEM for warranty service. If the device is
out of the OEM's warranty, that is the end of all claims.

I was not talking about Seagate drives in "Brand X" enclosures: I was
talking about Seagate-branded external drives vs. Seagate internal
drives of the same capacity -- and in many cases the same model/part# as
what is in the enclosure. IIRC, all have the same 2-year warranty.

Ii haven't looked at other makes.

And now I noticed that BestBuy has 2TB external Seagates (Slim" 2.5" drive
inside) with 3-year warranties whereas the 2TB internal notebook drive has
only a 2-year warranty. Aren't external drives more likely to suffer rough
handling?

That isnt the only thing that affects there warranty period.

I just bought a Seagate 8TB external and it has a 3 year warranty
and I deliberately bought that one for the 3 year warranty.