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When burning with Windows 2000 server pc becomes unusable
"Darren Lambert" wrote in message ...
Hi all I have had the same pc for years, and the same Sony CD-RW CRX185E1 for over a year. Until recently the pc had windows 2000 pro installed. The CR-RW was able to read and write with no problems at all, always using the standard windows drivers and nero. The pc now has a fresh install of Windows 2000 server installed, on the same hard disc. Now when I read or write to/from the cd windows starts to judder as if there is a very intensive drain on resources. The cpu monitor shows windows thinks it is idle. Is this a know ide issue with Windows 2000 server? Thanks Darren Hello Darren, I think I have the solution to your problem. I am running Windows 2000 Professional with service pack 4 installed. I had the exact same problem you experienced above in my pro installation - jittery mouse movements, extremely delayed response times in loading applications, unable to play a simply MP3 file back while burning a CD at 24x. It turns out (at least in my situation) that the problem was with the driver I had installed for my IDE controller. If you have an Intel chipset (go into Start - Settings - Control Panel - System - Hardware tab - Device Manager and look under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers for an Intel IDE controller. Usually it will also list your chipset type under the System Devices area farther down the list. If it is an Intel chipset, download the latest chipset drivers from Intel's site and install them. The exact link to get to their chipset stuff is: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...?ProductID=816 That package of software contains all chipset drivers for all Intel chipsets dating back to 486's and such. If you have a different chipset, go to your computer manufacturer's website or motherboard manufacturer's website and download the drivers specific to your chipset. Downloading the wrong drivers and installing them can cause serious problems! Install your package, be it the Intel chipset package or a different one; reboot or whatever it tells you that you need to do in order to make the drivers work. Next, go back into the device manager (Start - Settings - Control Panel - System - Hardware tab - Device Manager) and go into IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Double click "Primary IDE Channel." Then click the "Advanced Settings" tab at the top of the list. For Device 0 AND Device 1, choose "DMA If Available" for the Transfer Mode. Leave everything else the same and click OK. Then (still in device manager) double click "Secondary IDE Channel." Again, click the "Advanced Settings" tab at the top of the list. For Device 0 AND Device 1, choose "DMA If Available" for the Transfer Mode. Click OK. Reboot your computer after this, and burning CD's should run quite a bit better. If your system is like mine, for some rediculous reason, Windows 2000 or that Intel driver pack set all CD-ROM devices (CD-R, DVD+R, DVD-R drives) to PIO mode data transfers only. PIO = Programmed Input / Output - an ANCIENT technology that is extremely processor intensive. Instead of letting the IDE controller handle the data communications with its own built-in controller hardware using DMA (Direct Memory Access), they make you use that ancient technology! A few other things to try: If you are burning from a hard drive on a RAID controller to a CD-RW or CD-R drive on a standard IDE controller, this will GREATLY decrease your burn speed and reliability. RAID controllers use proprietary forms of data translation to talk to the bus that are not directly compatible with most on-board IDE controllers. Even if your IDE controller and RAID controller are both built-in on the motherboard, chances are the actual chips are from different companies. The translation from RAID language (pseudo-scsi data) to true IDE is extremely processor intensive and can cause severe dips in system performance. Try getting an extra hard drive to run on the IDE channel along with the CD-RW drive. Then, to burn a CD, copy the data from your RAID drive to the other hard drive on the onboard IDE controller, then burn it from the hard drive on the IDE controller. One other option is to format and install again with your primary drive not on a RAID controller at all, and instead on the built-in IDE controller Turn on UDMA / LBA support for all drives in your BIOS, even if you don't think they support it. This can't hurt, but sure can help if you are having this type of problem. If LBA is not available or compatible with the drive, the BIOS defaults back to an earlier transfer method for communications. Connect the CD-RW drive to a different cable than the device where the data is coming from. For example, if I burn most of my stuff from my hard drive, I would hook the hard drive up as Primary Master, and the CD-RW drive up as Secondary Master on a totally different cable. It also helps if you have a CD-ROM in addition to this configuration to hook the CD-ROM drive up to the hard drive's IDE cable, leaving the other cable for exclusive use by the CD-RW drive. If you are using a Promise IDE controller card for a larger drive, DON'T! They are notoriously slow! Get a motherboard that supports the larger drive with its own on-board controller! If you MUST use this controller, hook your CD-ROM and CD-RW drive into it. Note: Most PCI IDE controller cards will detect a CD-RW or CD-ROM drive ONLY if a hard drive is connected to them as well. I don't know why, they just don't work when a CD-RW or CD-ROM is connected to them solo. If this does not fix your problem, post again, someone here will certainly be able to help with other ideas for a fix. --KJ |
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Many thanks, I set all IDE channles to "DMA If Available" and everything is now fine Thanks again Darren "KJ" wrote in message om... "Darren Lambert" wrote in message ... Hi all I have had the same pc for years, and the same Sony CD-RW CRX185E1 for over a year. Until recently the pc had windows 2000 pro installed. The CR-RW was able to read and write with no problems at all, always using the standard windows drivers and nero. The pc now has a fresh install of Windows 2000 server installed, on the same hard disc. Now when I read or write to/from the cd windows starts to judder as if there is a very intensive drain on resources. The cpu monitor shows windows thinks it is idle. Is this a know ide issue with Windows 2000 server? Thanks Darren Hello Darren, I think I have the solution to your problem. I am running Windows 2000 Professional with service pack 4 installed. I had the exact same problem you experienced above in my pro installation - jittery mouse movements, extremely delayed response times in loading applications, unable to play a simply MP3 file back while burning a CD at 24x. It turns out (at least in my situation) that the problem was with the driver I had installed for my IDE controller. If you have an Intel chipset (go into Start - Settings - Control Panel - System - Hardware tab - Device Manager and look under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers for an Intel IDE controller. Usually it will also list your chipset type under the System Devices area farther down the list. If it is an Intel chipset, download the latest chipset drivers from Intel's site and install them. The exact link to get to their chipset stuff is: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...?ProductID=816 That package of software contains all chipset drivers for all Intel chipsets dating back to 486's and such. If you have a different chipset, go to your computer manufacturer's website or motherboard manufacturer's website and download the drivers specific to your chipset. Downloading the wrong drivers and installing them can cause serious problems! Install your package, be it the Intel chipset package or a different one; reboot or whatever it tells you that you need to do in order to make the drivers work. Next, go back into the device manager (Start - Settings - Control Panel - System - Hardware tab - Device Manager) and go into IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Double click "Primary IDE Channel." Then click the "Advanced Settings" tab at the top of the list. For Device 0 AND Device 1, choose "DMA If Available" for the Transfer Mode. Leave everything else the same and click OK. Then (still in device manager) double click "Secondary IDE Channel." Again, click the "Advanced Settings" tab at the top of the list. For Device 0 AND Device 1, choose "DMA If Available" for the Transfer Mode. Click OK. Reboot your computer after this, and burning CD's should run quite a bit better. If your system is like mine, for some rediculous reason, Windows 2000 or that Intel driver pack set all CD-ROM devices (CD-R, DVD+R, DVD-R drives) to PIO mode data transfers only. PIO = Programmed Input / Output - an ANCIENT technology that is extremely processor intensive. Instead of letting the IDE controller handle the data communications with its own built-in controller hardware using DMA (Direct Memory Access), they make you use that ancient technology! A few other things to try: If you are burning from a hard drive on a RAID controller to a CD-RW or CD-R drive on a standard IDE controller, this will GREATLY decrease your burn speed and reliability. RAID controllers use proprietary forms of data translation to talk to the bus that are not directly compatible with most on-board IDE controllers. Even if your IDE controller and RAID controller are both built-in on the motherboard, chances are the actual chips are from different companies. The translation from RAID language (pseudo-scsi data) to true IDE is extremely processor intensive and can cause severe dips in system performance. Try getting an extra hard drive to run on the IDE channel along with the CD-RW drive. Then, to burn a CD, copy the data from your RAID drive to the other hard drive on the onboard IDE controller, then burn it from the hard drive on the IDE controller. One other option is to format and install again with your primary drive not on a RAID controller at all, and instead on the built-in IDE controller Turn on UDMA / LBA support for all drives in your BIOS, even if you don't think they support it. This can't hurt, but sure can help if you are having this type of problem. If LBA is not available or compatible with the drive, the BIOS defaults back to an earlier transfer method for communications. Connect the CD-RW drive to a different cable than the device where the data is coming from. For example, if I burn most of my stuff from my hard drive, I would hook the hard drive up as Primary Master, and the CD-RW drive up as Secondary Master on a totally different cable. It also helps if you have a CD-ROM in addition to this configuration to hook the CD-ROM drive up to the hard drive's IDE cable, leaving the other cable for exclusive use by the CD-RW drive. If you are using a Promise IDE controller card for a larger drive, DON'T! They are notoriously slow! Get a motherboard that supports the larger drive with its own on-board controller! If you MUST use this controller, hook your CD-ROM and CD-RW drive into it. Note: Most PCI IDE controller cards will detect a CD-RW or CD-ROM drive ONLY if a hard drive is connected to them as well. I don't know why, they just don't work when a CD-RW or CD-ROM is connected to them solo. If this does not fix your problem, post again, someone here will certainly be able to help with other ideas for a fix. --KJ |
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