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Using Epson 1270 with 1290 driver?
I seem to recall reading somewhere that it is possible to use the 1290
driver with a 1270 - that way you can get borderless prints. Is this right? Is anyone doing this, and is there a downside? Thanks in advance for your comments... Chris. |
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Ed Ruf wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:48:50 +0100, in comp.periphs.printers Chris wrote: I seem to recall reading somewhere that it is possible to use the 1290 driver with a 1270 - that way you can get borderless prints. Is this right? Is anyone doing this, and is there a downside? IIRC, it would only give you borderless on three sides. ---------- Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 ) http://EdwardGRuf.com Think I tried this and the 1290 drivers would not work. With the borderless images you have to use roll paper as the paper is feed by the rear rollers and still has th grip the paper as its pushed through. You will not get boarderless prints off sheet paper. There is other software to use with roll paper - this is downloaded off the epson site. or its on the CD. Someone else will know the name. |
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In article
, Rob writes Ed Ruf wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:48:50 +0100, in comp.periphs.printers Chris wrote: I seem to recall reading somewhere that it is possible to use the 1290 driver with a 1270 - that way you can get borderless prints. Is this right? Is anyone doing this, and is there a downside? IIRC, it would only give you borderless on three sides. ---------- Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 ) http://EdwardGRuf.com Think I tried this and the 1290 drivers would not work. With the borderless images you have to use roll paper as the paper is feed by the rear rollers and still has th grip the paper as its pushed through. You will not get boarderless prints off sheet paper. There is other software to use with roll paper - this is downloaded off the epson site. or its on the CD. Someone else will know the name. Well I tried it a while ago and it did work but, as Ed pointed out, only provides edge to edge printing on three sides - the leading edge out of the printer is bordered. There are ways around this though, but I'll leave it to your imagination to figure them out - it isn't difficult. When I tried the driver. it failed to detect the printer and so did not the USB port and the Status Monitor. The actual printer interface appeared to be OK and defaulted to driving the printer via the parallel port. Since I had already installed the 1270 driver, and it had installed its own USB port, I simply redirected the driver (under the details page) to the pre-existing USB port and it worked OK. After that, the 1270 printer and 1290 driver worked fine - in every mode supported by the 1270 printer. The main reason I was interested in trying this was to find out if I could get borderless prints with the combination. The answer was, frustratingly, almost! The printer certainly printed edge to edge, however it still printed a 3mm border at the top of the print and then printed about 3-6mm off the edge of the bottom of the page. Consequently I ended up with some overspill inside the printer which needed to be cleaned before I could use it again. I tried different paper types and sizes to overcome the top/bottom page mismatch, but unsuccessfully, the best that can be achieved is edge to edge printing on 3 sides and loss of approximately 3mm of image from the bottom of the page. Eventually I printed two identical small prints to file, one via the 1270 driver and another via the 1290, and then examined the data for differences. It appears that the 1290 driver sends several remote commmands which do not appear in the 1270 software manual, so it is likely that these are unique to the 1280/90 printers and probably position the paper correctly. After I discovered the code incompatibilities I did not progress it any further because I had, in the meantime, established a solution for borderless printing on the 1270 which works just as well as the 1290 driver did - without the mess. The report I posted to the now defunct Leben Epson Inkjet list soon after the 1290 was initially released follows: __________________________________________________ ______________ To: Subject: 1280/1290(?) Edge-to-edge? From: Kennedy McEwen Date: 25 February 2001 00:59:07 Having just looked at the drivers menu for the 12(8/9)0 it would appear that it only gives edge to edge printing at defined paper sizes and this mode does not support user defined sizes. It does support edge to edge printing right up to the full 13" carriage width though. Overspray is collected by the same little sponges which the printer uses to clear the head of ink build-up during use. These are located at the 4" and 13" positions on the 1270 and there is a location available for an additional sponge at around the 8" position - I presume that the 12(8/9)0 has similar sponges at other positions. From a cursory first look, the full list of paper sizes supported in edge to edge mode includes: A4 210x297mm A3 297x420mm Super A3/B 329x483mm Letter 8.5x11" Index card 5x8" Photo Paper 4x6" No Perforations Photo Paper 100x150mm Photo Paper 200x300mm 3.5x5" : 89x127mm 5x7" : 127x178mm Panoramic 210x594mm The full range of sizes supported by the 1270, including custom sizes, is available IF the edge to edge mode is deselected. -- Kennedy Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed; A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed. Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying) |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:59:12 +0100, Kennedy McEwen
wrote: snip After I discovered the code incompatibilities I did not progress it any further because I had, in the meantime, established a solution for borderless printing on the 1270 which works just as well as the 1290 driver did - without the mess. snip Thanks for the very helpful replies, everyone. Kennedy, what was the solution you referred to, please? (Apologies if I missed it in your post). Chris. |
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In article , Chris
writes On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:59:12 +0100, Kennedy McEwen wrote: snip After I discovered the code incompatibilities I did not progress it any further because I had, in the meantime, established a solution for borderless printing on the 1270 which works just as well as the 1290 driver did - without the mess. snip Thanks for the very helpful replies, everyone. Kennedy, what was the solution you referred to, please? (Apologies if I missed it in your post). Using some low tack masking tape (available from most hardware stores) to attach a backing sheet to the back of the page to be printed so that it overhangs by 3.5mm all around the edges. Then place this in the printer feed. Use a custom page setting to make the page 7mm larger than the actual size of the page to be printed (save this as a custom setting for future use) and then print as normal. The printer picks the backing sheet as the start of the page and begins printing at the edge of the real page - with a 0.5mm overspray onto the backing sheet. After it is finished, just peel off the backing sheet and use it on the next page to be printed. Harder to describe than it is to do. It isn't really worth it for long print runs, but for a few edge to edge prints it is perfectly adequate and works pretty well. To ease positioning of the backing sheet and the main page and be more reliable, I stuck some card strips around the outside edge of a Super B box of paper, with a second layer of card on top of that but 3.5mm further out. So I just place the page I want to print on the outside of the box, face down, push it up into the corner formed by the inner card edge. Then place the backing sheet on top and push that into the corner formed by the second layer of card, tape it in position with the low tack tape and you have an "oversize" sheet with a backing that prevents the overspray getting onto the printer insides. The whole process takes about 15-20 seconds with practice and is perfectly repeatable and accurate. The only time I use the 1290 driver now is when I want a full 13" wide borderless print, since the maximum custom width is limited to 32.9cm (13") - then use the same backing page and custom size technique just to overcome the 3mm leading edge border. -- Kennedy Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed; A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed. Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying) |
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 02:09:52 +0100, Kennedy McEwen
wrote: Using some low tack masking tape And there was I, expecting a registry tweak, or some such... Bet you watched Blue Peter in your youth :-) Seriously, thanks for the tip - I'll have to give it a try! Chris. |
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"Chris" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 02:09:52 +0100, Kennedy McEwen wrote: Using some low tack masking tape And there was I, expecting a registry tweak, or some such... Bet you watched Blue Peter in your youth :-) Seriously, thanks for the tip - I'll have to give it a try! Chris. There's also a low-tack spray adhesive that's designed just for that job. Well, actually its designed for holding stencils, but it does both jobs perfectly. |
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There are a number of repositionable adhesives on the market which I
have used for this exact purpose, since I often use smaller pieces of paper or wish to make full-bleed prints, and none of my printers have this built in. 3M makes a "post it" glue stick which can make any paper into a post it. You can use it on the backing sheet. There are also a number of "double sided" products that come dispensing devices that apply a double sided tape in either permanent of repositionable adhesives. One way to make very repeatable results is to make a 8.5 x 11 (or whatever standard your backing paper is going to have) "sheet" in your program, then simply place one or more black edged "boxes" representing the locales of the images. Then print this on the sheet you will use as your backing sheet. Then add the repositionable adhesive to the backing paper, and then adhere the smaller paper to this backing sheet exactly where the lines are. You don't need a lot of adhesive. Just the leading edge and maybe a couple spots. In your program again, paste the virtual images "into" the black edged boxes on your screen, and then send that page back through the printer, and have it print the images. They should match up nearly perfectly. You may have to raise the printer head to accommodate two thicknesses of paper. You can reuse the backing paper unit the adhesive no longer sticks. Art Ivor Floppy wrote: "Chris" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 02:09:52 +0100, Kennedy McEwen wrote: Using some low tack masking tape And there was I, expecting a registry tweak, or some such... Bet you watched Blue Peter in your youth :-) Seriously, thanks for the tip - I'll have to give it a try! Chris. There's also a low-tack spray adhesive that's designed just for that job. Well, actually its designed for holding stencils, but it does both jobs perfectly. |
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