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XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see
XP Pro, no remote, just keyboard. It's purely a server.
Weird, huh. -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Muto ] Posted At: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:27 PM Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell Conversation: XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see Subject: XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see ps. if this is your mce machine, are you using the wireless remote with it? |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:16:19 GMT, "Tom Scales"
wrote: Yes, Yes and Yes. I'm guessing an intermittent problem with the internal NIC, but it is weird that it can always see 'out'. I'll try a gigabit PCI card one of these days. Tom Why not switch cards from another 410 that works and see if that switches the problem from one to the other ? That would definitely tell you if it's the card or not. |
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The XPS410 has an on-board NIC. I sort of doubt that Tom is so skilled with
soldering and desoldering equipment that he would hazard the task of swapping on-board NIC chips. ;) I have to chalk this one up to the vagaries of Windows. One way to find out is to install Windows on a spare drive, if Tom has one available and can stand the pain-in-the-ass Windows install procedure... Ben Myers On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:39:03 -0500, RnR wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:16:19 GMT, "Tom Scales" wrote: Yes, Yes and Yes. I'm guessing an intermittent problem with the internal NIC, but it is weird that it can always see 'out'. I'll try a gigabit PCI card one of these days. Tom Why not switch cards from another 410 that works and see if that switches the problem from one to the other ? That would definitely tell you if it's the card or not. |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:54:16 -0400, Ben Myers
wrote: The XPS410 has an on-board NIC. I sort of doubt that Tom is so skilled with soldering and desoldering equipment that he would hazard the task of swapping on-board NIC chips. ;) Oops my bad. Thanks Ben for catching my mistake. And sorry Tom that my brain died when you mentioned an on board NIC. ps- I'm leary about a hardware fault but if the thing is getting a lot of heat build up inside, who knows??? Maybe Tom is correct and certainly not a big deal to try a pci card to find out. |
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XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see
Tom Scales wrote:
I am having the weirdest problem. I have an XPS410 running XP. Boot the machine, it works fine. Internet access works. File shares on other machines work. Other machines can see file shares on this machine. After awhile, from minutes to days, other machines can no longer see the file shares on this machine and RealVNC can't connect. This machine can still connect to other machines, both RealVNC and file shares. Rebooting fixes the problem. Figuring it was a typical 'been running this install awhile' problem, I formatted the machine and did a fresh XP install. Worked great. For two weeks. The then symptom returned. I have three other, almost identical, machines and they work just fine. No problems at all. At first I was afraid you might be going blind. Have you checked to see if the workgroup name of the failing box is still the same as the others? I've seen this happen a few times. |
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But that is the problem. I formatted and reinstalled Windows from
scratch. No firewall other than Windows firewall. AVG anti-virus. There are only two applications installed. AVG and BeyondTV. That is ALL it is used for. You can't even ping it with its IP address. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Myers ] Posted At: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:54 PM Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell Conversation: XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see Subject: XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see The XPS410 has an on-board NIC. I sort of doubt that Tom is so skilled with soldering and desoldering equipment that he would hazard the task of swapping on-board NIC chips. ;) I have to chalk this one up to the vagaries of Windows. One way to find out is to install Windows on a spare drive, if Tom has one available and can stand the pain-in-the-ass Windows install procedure... Ben Myers On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:39:03 -0500, RnR wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:16:19 GMT, "Tom Scales" wrote: Yes, Yes and Yes. I'm guessing an intermittent problem with the internal NIC, but it is weird that it can always see 'out'. I'll try a gigabit PCI card one of these days. Tom Why not switch cards from another 410 that works and see if that switches the problem from one to the other ? That would definitely tell you if it's the card or not. |
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Yes, same workgroup and since it works intermittently it seems like that
isn't the issue. Good thought. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Harding ] Posted At: Friday, October 10, 2008 3:05 AM Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell Conversation: XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see Subject: XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see Tom Scales wrote: I am having the weirdest problem. I have an XPS410 running XP. Boot the machine, it works fine. Internet access works. File shares on other machines work. Other machines can see file shares on this machine. After awhile, from minutes to days, other machines can no longer see the file shares on this machine and RealVNC can't connect. This machine can still connect to other machines, both RealVNC and file shares. Rebooting fixes the problem. Figuring it was a typical 'been running this install awhile' problem, I formatted the machine and did a fresh XP install. Worked great. For two weeks. The then symptom returned. I have three other, almost identical, machines and they work just fine. No problems at all. At first I was afraid you might be going blind. Have you checked to see if the workgroup name of the failing box is still the same as the others? I've seen this happen a few times. |
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-----Original Message----- From: Scott Davis [mailto Posted At: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:23 AM Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell Conversation: XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see Subject: XPS410 -- suddenly I can't see On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:42:07 -0400, "Christopher Muto" wrote: "S.Lewis" wrote in message ... "Tom Scales" wrote in message news:FB962DDC773F473A959F3477A33EDA9B@M2010... I am having the weirdest problem. I have an XPS410 running XP. Boot the machine, it works fine. Internet access works. File shares on other machines work. Other machines can see file shares on this machine. After awhile, from minutes to days, other machines can no longer see the file shares on this machine and RealVNC can't connect. This machine can still connect to other machines, both RealVNC and file shares. Rebooting fixes the problem. Figuring it was a typical 'been running this install awhile' problem, I formatted the machine and did a fresh XP install. Worked great. For two weeks. The then symptom returned. I have three other, almost identical, machines and they work just fine. No problems at all. Any thoughts? Thanks, Tom Overlooked power management setting for the network adapter? Intermittent failure on the NIC? Have a PCI NIC lying around for giggles? Nothing but guesses. my thoughts are the same as stew's plus i would also consider checking to the port on the network hub or perhaps just use another port to see if that makes the problem goes away (some 'smart' switches shut down a port that generates lots of errors, restarting the pc would reinitiate this cycle of it initially working but later being shut down). also, might be suspect of the 'security' (firewall) software that might be in use on this system vs that used on the others. To repeat what Christopher said, you might try uninstalling your anti-virus/firewall program(s) to see if that makes a difference. I had a similar problem once caused by my anti-virus program. Pausing protection didn't fix the problem, but when I uninstalled the program and rebooted, the shared folders on the machine suddenly became visible to the other machines on the network. Problem happens even when run bare of Anti-virus. Only firewall is Windows in its default settings. Turning it off doesn't help. |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:05:24 -0400, Tony Harding
wrote: Tom Scales wrote: I am having the weirdest problem. I have an XPS410 running XP. Boot the machine, it works fine. Internet access works. File shares on other machines work. Other machines can see file shares on this machine. After awhile, from minutes to days, other machines can no longer see the file shares on this machine and RealVNC can't connect. This machine can still connect to other machines, both RealVNC and file shares. Rebooting fixes the problem. Figuring it was a typical 'been running this install awhile' problem, I formatted the machine and did a fresh XP install. Worked great. For two weeks. The then symptom returned. I have three other, almost identical, machines and they work just fine. No problems at all. At first I was afraid you might be going blind. Have you checked to see if the workgroup name of the failing box is still the same as the others? I've seen this happen a few times. Earlier I thought of that but I dismissed it because he didn't say anything about changing it. I haven't seen it change unless by software or human intervention. That's why often in network problems, they discuss pinging the pc's because that bypasses the windows OS including the name of the workgroup. Pinging pc's usually has to do with cabling / hardware. |
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:29:50 GMT, "Tom Scales"
wrote: Yes, same workgroup and since it works intermittently it seems like that isn't the issue. Good thought. Might as well uinstall the TCP/IP stack and reinstalling it. Sometimes that go faulty. Also is the network cable good ? |
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