Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:04:03 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:09:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[snip]

(Anyone know of email/news software that does this that _isn't_ from
Microsoft? Not that I have a _strong_ prejudice against MS products [I
Cue or queue the suggestions...

use them at work], though I do find they _tend_ to integrate more into
the OS - if only by assuming they're the default for more than just
their primary purpose - than I feel comfortable with. But WLM might be
different. [I also can't help thinking "Live" means "assume permanent-on
connection", which is alien to my philosophy. But maybe it doesn't.])
I use Qualcomm's Eudora for E-mail and Forte's Agent for USENET.

I use Thunderbird and Agent.

I switched to Thunderbird because it has a open email folder format. It was a
PITA to lose a decade of email history.

If you switched from Outlook or OE, as long as the .pst file (or its
backup) isn't corrupt, you can import all your e-mail into Thunderbird.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:32:17 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:04:03 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:09:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[snip]

(Anyone know of email/news software that does this that _isn't_ from
Microsoft? Not that I have a _strong_ prejudice against MS products [I
Cue or queue the suggestions...

use them at work], though I do find they _tend_ to integrate more into
the OS - if only by assuming they're the default for more than just
their primary purpose - than I feel comfortable with. But WLM might be
different. [I also can't help thinking "Live" means "assume permanent-on
connection", which is alien to my philosophy. But maybe it doesn't.])
I use Qualcomm's Eudora for E-mail and Forte's Agent for USENET.

I use Thunderbird and Agent.

I switched to Thunderbird because it has a open email folder format. It was a
PITA to lose a decade of email history.

If you switched from Outlook or OE, as long as the .pst file (or its
backup) isn't corrupt, you can import all your e-mail into Thunderbird.

No, it was PMMail.

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:39:39 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Gene Wirchenko
writes:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 21:09:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[snip]

(Anyone know of email/news software that does this that _isn't_ from
Microsoft? Not that I have a _strong_ prejudice against MS products [I

Cue or queue the suggestions...
[]
I use Qualcomm's Eudora for E-mail and Forte's Agent for USENET.
[]
Wow, do _those_ store individual emails/posts in individual files then?
(If so, does it extend to Eudora OSE, which is really Thunderbird?)

Oops! I missed that bit. No, Eudora and Agent both put messages
of a mailbox/newsgroup in a file. Each mailbox/newsgroup has its own
file.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

DevilsPGD wrote:

some POS liar that calls itself "GreyCloud" said:

On 6/1/2012 2:52 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
I've been trying to remember this, and I honestly can't remember it
anymore. In MS-DOS, where were the standard external commands located?
The only thing I remember about MS-DOS was that the command.com was
located in the root directory (along with autoexec.bat, config.sys, and
the hidden files msdos.sys & io.sys). Slightly different names for the
PC-DOS version, such as pcdos.sys & ibmio.sys, but otherwise identical.
The standard external commands were those like chkdsk or xcopy, which
weren't built into the command.com. Was there an MSDOS folder or
something which contained these commands?

Yousuf Khan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IO.SYS

What does that have to do with the question being asked?

Nothing. "GreyCloud" is a senile old fsckwit who mostly just trolls.
He's retired and bored, you see, so finds it "fun" to team-up with
some of the most vile assholes over to troll USENET and attack decent,
honest Linux advocates.

On 6/29/2012 1:11 PM, chrisv wrote:
DevilsPGD wrote:

some POS liar that calls itself "GreyCloud" said:

On 6/1/2012 2:52 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
I've been trying to remember this, and I honestly can't remember it
anymore. In MS-DOS, where were the standard external commands located?
The only thing I remember about MS-DOS was that the command.com was
located in the root directory (along with autoexec.bat, config.sys, and
the hidden files msdos.sys & io.sys). Slightly different names for the
PC-DOS version, such as pcdos.sys & ibmio.sys, but otherwise identical.
The standard external commands were those like chkdsk or xcopy, which
weren't built into the command.com. Was there an MSDOS folder or
something which contained these commands?

Yousuf Khan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IO.SYS

What does that have to do with the question being asked?

Nothing. "GreyCloud" is a senile old fsckwit who mostly just trolls.
He's retired and bored, you see, so finds it "fun" to team-up with
some of the most vile assholes over to troll USENET and attack decent,
honest Linux advocates.

I see you have resorted to trolling a windows newsgroup.

For the rest of the windows users: watch out for this one, as he is
known habitual liar in other newsgroups. Worse, he is one of the worst
potty mouths you'll ever run into.

On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:37:27 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

On 6/29/2012 1:11 PM, chrisv wrote:
DevilsPGD wrote:

some POS liar that calls itself "GreyCloud" said:

On 6/1/2012 2:52 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
I've been trying to remember this, and I honestly can't remember it
anymore. In MS-DOS, where were the standard external commands located?
The only thing I remember about MS-DOS was that the command.com was
located in the root directory (along with autoexec.bat, config.sys, and
the hidden files msdos.sys & io.sys). Slightly different names for the
PC-DOS version, such as pcdos.sys & ibmio.sys, but otherwise identical.
The standard external commands were those like chkdsk or xcopy, which
weren't built into the command.com. Was there an MSDOS folder or
something which contained these commands?

Yousuf Khan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IO.SYS

What does that have to do with the question being asked?

Nothing. "GreyCloud" is a senile old fsckwit who mostly just trolls.
He's retired and bored, you see, so finds it "fun" to team-up with
some of the most vile assholes over to troll USENET and attack decent,
honest Linux advocates.

I see you have resorted to trolling a windows newsgroup.

For the rest of the windows users: watch out for this one, as he is
known habitual liar in other newsgroups. Worse, he is one of the worst
potty mouths you'll ever run into.

He's been here[1] before and is recognized.

[1] Or maybe another place where I hang out, I don't recall.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 6/29/2012 1:11 PM, chrisv wrote:
DevilsPGD wrote:

some POS liar that calls itself "GreyCloud" said:

On 6/1/2012 2:52 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
I've been trying to remember this, and I honestly can't remember
it anymore. In MS-DOS, where were the standard external commands
located? The only thing I remember about MS-DOS was that the
command.com was located in the root directory (along with
autoexec.bat, config.sys, and the hidden files msdos.sys &
io.sys). Slightly different names for the PC-DOS version, such as
pcdos.sys & ibmio.sys, but otherwise identical. The standard
external commands were those like chkdsk or xcopy, which weren't
built into the command.com. Was there an MSDOS folder or something
which contained these commands?

In DOS enter the command followed by the slash and a question mark.

i.e. xcopy /?

some filthy liar that calls itself "GreyCloud" wrote:

On 6/29/2012 1:11 PM, chrisv wrote:

"GreyCloud" is a senile old fsckwit who mostly just trolls.
He's retired and bored, you see, so finds it "fun" to team-up with
some of the most vile assholes over to troll USENET and attack decent,
honest Linux advocates.

I see you have resorted to trolling a windows newsgroup.

I see you have resorted to your shameless lying, as usual,
"GreyCloud".

I merely noticed your vile presence while on a rare visit to one of my
old haunts, c.s.i.p.h.chips, and thought that some of these fine folks
might benefit by knowing more about you.

For the rest of the windows users: watch out for this one,

There's no need for anyone to "watch out" for me, "GreyCloud". I'm
not going to hang-around.

Unlike you, I am not some fscking asshole who trolls an advocacy or
help group, siding with a bunch of puerile, lying sociopaths and
ridiculing a bunch of decent and honest people.

as he is known habitual liar in other newsgroups.

This could be called "the pot calling the polished silver black".
This is a favorite attack of filthy lying assholes like "GreyCloud" -
he not only *lies* without shame, but he calls honest people liars!

But no one has to take my word for it. It's all in the record in the
Linux advocacy group.

"GreyCloud" has been kill-filed by myself and many of the other
advocates, but he's still making his nasty little comments and
supporting his nasty little "friends" in attacking a bunch of decent,
honest, and reasonable people.

Worse, he is one of the worst potty mouths you'll ever run into.

"Potty mouth" is a lot better than what "GreyCloud" is.

"GreyCloud" is an anti-advocate troll in an advocacy group. For those
who have experience with such vermin, this may be enough-said.

"GreyCloud" has chosen to join-forces with as vile a group of liars,
assholes, stalkers, shills, imbeciles, and bigots that are to be found
on USENET. Together, they take the anti-charter position on
pretty-much every* issue, and tirelessly disrupt the newsgroup,
shamelessly using idiocy and lies to attack the advocates and what
they believe in.

"GreyCloud" will call you a liar to your face, when you know damn well
you speak the truth.

He's retired and bored, you see, and finds being a total ****
"entertaining".

Again, no one needs to take my word, on any of this.

Gene E. Bloch wrote:

He's been here[1] before and is recognized.

[1] Or maybe another place where I hang out, I don't recall.

Perhaps you should be more careful about whom you claim to
"recognize", when you can't recall from where.

I've posted essentially nothing outside the Linux advocacy group, in
recent years. Of course, there are some cross-posts.

I'm not like "GreyCloud". Unlike "GreyCloud", I don't go looking for
people to ridicule and harass. Unlike "GreyCloud", I don't troll
newsgroups where I'm not wanted. Unlike "GreyCloud", I don't get my
kicks attacking decent, honest people as "hypocrites", "liars", and
"cult members".

On 7/2/2012 1:29 PM, chrisv wrote:
Gene E. Bloch wrote:

He's been here[1] before and is recognized.

[1] Or maybe another place where I hang out, I don't recall.

Perhaps you should be more careful about whom you claim to
"recognize", when you can't recall from where.

I've posted essentially nothing outside the Linux advocacy group, in
recent years. Of course, there are some cross-posts.

I'm not like "GreyCloud". Unlike "GreyCloud", I don't go looking for
people to ridicule and harass. Unlike "GreyCloud", I don't troll
newsgroups where I'm not wanted. Unlike "GreyCloud", I don't get my
kicks attacking decent, honest people as "hypocrites", "liars", and
"cult members".

You are a well known and documented liar and a hypocrite as well.
One of usenets worst potty mouth. And no one here wants to talk to you.