I NEED A HP PLOTER PRINTER

i need a Ploter Printer with new dimensions and print out. color hp
ploter, the latest brand from hp

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i need a Ploter Printer with new dimensions and print out. color hp
ploter, the latest brand from hp

No one can advise you unless you say where you
live or where you intend to buy.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

On 16-Jun-2009, "Don Phillipson" wrote:

i need a Ploter Printer with new dimensions and print out. color hp
ploter, the latest brand from hp

A plotter uses pens driven by stepper motors. A plotter is
characterised by its positional accuracy.
Plotters are used for engineering drawing and scientific
applications.
A plotter is less than ideal for pages of text, letters, etc.
A printer is general purpose, it can produce colour images,
pages of text, bar charts, and the like, it is more versatile
than a plotter.
Which are you looking for?
You don't get combo units, with both pens and laser/inkjet
printing.

Ato_Zee wrote:
On 16-Jun-2009, "Don Phillipson" wrote:

i need a Ploter Printer with new dimensions and print out. color hp
ploter, the latest brand from hp

A plotter uses pens driven by stepper motors. A plotter is
characterised by its positional accuracy.
Plotters are used for engineering drawing and scientific
applications.
A plotter is less than ideal for pages of text, letters, etc.
A printer is general purpose, it can produce colour images,
pages of text, bar charts, and the like, it is more versatile
than a plotter.
Which are you looking for?
You don't get combo units, with both pens and laser/inkjet
printing.

Pen plotters went the way of the Dodo 15-20 years ago. The inkjets that
replaced them are still called plotters in engineering circles.

On 16-Jun-2009, Michael Johnson wrote:

Pen plotters went the way of the Dodo 15-20 years ago. The inkjets that
replaced them are still called plotters in engineering circles.

Your Dodo is not extinct, large format pen plotters are still available,
Ioline's 600Ae comes to mind, though they are getting fewer in number
since the days of the large Calcomps, and the HP desktop A4 pen
plotters.

Ato_Zee wrote:
On 16-Jun-2009, Michael Johnson wrote:

Pen plotters went the way of the Dodo 15-20 years ago. The inkjets that
replaced them are still called plotters in engineering circles.

Your Dodo is not extinct, large format pen plotters are still available,
Ioline's 600Ae comes to mind, though they are getting fewer in number
since the days of the large Calcomps, and the HP desktop A4 pen
plotters.

I can't think of any reason to buy a pen plotter over an inkjet. The
pens wear out, run dry, plots take forever etc. HP hasn't made a pen
plotter since 1995 and there is good reasons why this is so.

Michael Johnson wrote:

Pen plotters went the way of the Dodo 15-20 years ago. The inkjets that
replaced them are still called plotters in engineering circles.

Your Dodo is not extinct, large format pen plotters are still available,
Ioline's 600Ae comes to mind, though they are getting fewer in number
since the days of the large Calcomps, and the HP desktop A4 pen
plotters.

I can't think of any reason to buy a pen plotter over an inkjet. The
pens wear out, run dry, plots take forever etc. HP hasn't made a pen
plotter since 1995 and there is good reasons why this is so.

Agreed. I recall seeing one of those letter sized HP plotters in about 1985. Slower
than molasses in January. The 48" inkjet "plotter", which used ink cartridges, at a
clients about 5 or 6 years ago was nice and fast.

Tony
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Ato_Zee wrote:
On 16-Jun-2009, "Don Phillipson" wrote:

i need a Ploter Printer with new dimensions and print out. color hp
ploter, the latest brand from hp

A plotter uses pens driven by stepper motors. A plotter is
characterised by its positional accuracy.
Plotters are used for engineering drawing and scientific
applications.
A plotter is less than ideal for pages of text, letters, etc.
A printer is general purpose, it can produce colour images,
pages of text, bar charts, and the like, it is more versatile
than a plotter.
Which are you looking for?
You don't get combo units, with both pens and laser/inkjet
printing.

However, many PCL printers understand HPGL (the language of pen
plotters) - so if you're looking to print an HPGL file a suitable
laserjet printer might be all you need. Alternatively, there are
HPGL-PostScript converters available. Try google with "printing hpgl".

"H"

On 2009-06-17, Michael Johnson wrote:
Ato_Zee wrote:
On 16-Jun-2009, Michael Johnson wrote:

Pen plotters went the way of the Dodo 15-20 years ago. The inkjets that
replaced them are still called plotters in engineering circles.

Your Dodo is not extinct, large format pen plotters are still available,
Ioline's 600Ae comes to mind, though they are getting fewer in number
since the days of the large Calcomps, and the HP desktop A4 pen
plotters.

I can't think of any reason to buy a pen plotter over an inkjet. The
pens wear out, run dry, plots take forever etc. HP hasn't made a pen
plotter since 1995 and there is good reasons why this is so.

I can think of a few. The first is a cheat: I have a script lying
about somewhere that takes ASCII and produces a reasonable simulacrum
of my handwriting. At least, my idealised, cursive handwriting -
in everyday life I only ever print for legibility so my my cursive
handwriting is all over the place. It's smart enough to introduce
a small amount of variability (mainly to pen speed) so the results
are not _too_ consistent but still far neater than I could manage
by hand. Goes down very well with the girlies when used for love
letters. ;-)

More usefully, I've found that with a little experimentation and
adjustment I have got a flatbed plotter to work very well drawing
circuit board layouts onto bare sheets of copper clad PCB board.
The ink forms the etch resist and it can go straight into the
etching tank. The traditonal method involves printing onto OHP
transparencies, exposing photosensitive boards under UV and finally
developing with sodium hydroxide to get to the same point. That's
quite a time consuming process when you only want one board. Sure
its a specialist application but plotters always were specialist
devices.

--
Andrew Smallshaw

Andrew Smallshaw wrote:
On 2009-06-17, Michael Johnson wrote:
Ato_Zee wrote:
On 16-Jun-2009, Michael Johnson wrote:

Pen plotters went the way of the Dodo 15-20 years ago. The inkjets that
replaced them are still called plotters in engineering circles.
Your Dodo is not extinct, large format pen plotters are still available,
Ioline's 600Ae comes to mind, though they are getting fewer in number
since the days of the large Calcomps, and the HP desktop A4 pen
plotters.
I can't think of any reason to buy a pen plotter over an inkjet. The
pens wear out, run dry, plots take forever etc. HP hasn't made a pen
plotter since 1995 and there is good reasons why this is so.

I can think of a few. The first is a cheat: I have a script lying
about somewhere that takes ASCII and produces a reasonable simulacrum
of my handwriting. At least, my idealised, cursive handwriting -
in everyday life I only ever print for legibility so my my cursive
handwriting is all over the place. It's smart enough to introduce
a small amount of variability (mainly to pen speed) so the results
are not _too_ consistent but still far neater than I could manage
by hand. Goes down very well with the girlies when used for love
letters. ;-)

More usefully, I've found that with a little experimentation and
adjustment I have got a flatbed plotter to work very well drawing
circuit board layouts onto bare sheets of copper clad PCB board.
The ink forms the etch resist and it can go straight into the
etching tank. The traditonal method involves printing onto OHP
transparencies, exposing photosensitive boards under UV and finally
developing with sodium hydroxide to get to the same point. That's
quite a time consuming process when you only want one board. Sure
its a specialist application but plotters always were specialist
devices.

I was referring to printing onto paper, vellum, mylar etc. I would
think that complex plots would be more time consuming with a pen plotter
regardless of the media/purpose. I know that some construction plan
sheets would take 2-3 hours to plot with an HP pen plotter where the
same sheets would take a few minutes with an inkjet plotter.