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WD HDD Purple People Eater
Gave it up.
GParted (live boot) and GPT for "full" Win7 recognition/compatibility, that's about as far as I got. Not as exhaustively as thorough enough for my purposes. I've older MBs, not with native 3Tbyte hardware support, which, in the GPT (alternative) scheme of things supposedly is just fine for Win7. Well, Win7 certainly picked up, both via the OS with MB controllers and an external USB/SATA box, (sic) operated with those GPT partitions I did make, although there were issues. Namely, invariable time-outs and data thruput degradation slowdowns on copy operands. I didn't as extensively work with a SI PCI controller that picked up the drive's 3T geometry on my other machine (where I intended to place the WD's purplepeople eater HDD);- they, both machines, ought better be thought of as interchangeable, at least and a minimum for W7's purposes, in the GPT scheme of things. I figure. It's a video surveillance HDD, rugged enough for WD's 3yr. warr. tacked on, although not with my desktop environ apparently;- suspect it might be perfect for a newer BIOS/MB and larger than 2T drives, alas. Anyway, I followed practically what was indicated (with GPartEd) for a GPT disc, by all accounts, sufficient even by my standards for W7 and that drive. I'm not going to sucker up to a read/write recovery timeouts, not while there's equally as many 2T capped drives out there for those of us who haven't jumped on the (fully) Win7 platform -- ver. 8/9/10 and whatever flavor comes along from MS every few months these days for an imperative "update." Oh, well. $10 and change to ship it back, gee, how reasonable a price to learn how to be effectively trumped. I'll at least call to ask for a reasonable NEW 2T substitute at a minimum of 3yrs. manufacturer support, to include return shipping costs absorbed by the seller. And, do a quicker take, presumably for more than the six reviews on the purplepeople eater, if the seller bites. We can call even, then, costwise;- If not, well there's also Amazon, Tiger Direct, the pits and plain ol' potluck. (Yep...fatchance in fatcity they'll cut me slack, just never know until opening up one's yap to expound.) |
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Gave it up. GParted (live boot) and GPT for "full" Win7 recognition/compatibility, that's about as far as I got. Not as exhaustively as thorough enough for my purposes. I've older MBs, not with native 3Tbyte hardware support, which, in the GPT (alternative) scheme of things supposedly is just fine for Win7. Well, Win7 certainly picked up, both via the OS with MB controllers and an external USB/SATA box, (sic) operated with those GPT partitions I did make, although there were issues. Namely, invariable time-outs and data thruput degradation slowdowns on copy operands. I didn't as extensively work with a SI PCI controller that picked up the drive's 3T geometry on my other machine (where I intended to place the WD's purplepeople eater HDD);- they, both machines, ought better be thought of as interchangeable, at least and a minimum for W7's purposes, in the GPT scheme of things. I figure. It's a video surveillance HDD, rugged enough for WD's 3yr. warr. tacked on, although not with my desktop environ apparently;- suspect it might be perfect for a newer BIOS/MB and larger than 2T drives, alas. Anyway, I followed practically what was indicated (with GPartEd) for a GPT disc, by all accounts, sufficient even by my standards for W7 and that drive. I'm not going to sucker up to a read/write recovery timeouts, not while there's equally as many 2T capped drives out there for those of us who haven't jumped on the (fully) Win7 platform -- ver. 8/9/10 and whatever flavor comes along from MS every few months these days for an imperative "update." Oh, well. $10 and change to ship it back, gee, how reasonable a price to learn how to be effectively trumped. I'll at least call to ask for a reasonable NEW 2T substitute at a minimum of 3yrs. manufacturer support, to include return shipping costs absorbed by the seller. And, do a quicker take, presumably for more than the six reviews on the purplepeople eater, if the seller bites. We can call even, then, costwise;- If not, well there's also Amazon, Tiger Direct, the pits and plain ol' potluck. (Yep...fatchance in fatcity they'll cut me slack, just never know until opening up one's yap to expound.) You can use the Acronis Volume Manager driver, to convert a 3TB drive, into a 2TB physical drive and a 1TB virtual drive. Suitable for WinXP. That's how I use two 3TB drives here, with WinXP being the oldest OS in circulation. Since the 3TB drives are used for backups, they have to work on all platforms. Alternately, if you wanted this magic hard drive of yours to work on all machines, you could use Linux and do an HPA, and clip the drive at the 2.2TB mark. I haven't tried this. I tested GPT here, on more modern OSes and it worked. I find results using the drive on a USB enclosure to be a different set of failures. The Acronis Capacity Manager driver doesn't work in that case. In that case, I might be limited to GPT only (ruling out WinXP). In fact, the results were bad enough for my personal situation, I put the USB enclosures back in the box. They're useless to me at the moment. The installation of Capacity Manager is torture. It'll take you forever to get it working. I suffered hair loss :-) The thing is, if you *ever* used Acronis before, Acronis leaves an older driver on your OS. And you might not even be aware it is present. Acronis makes a removal tool, to remove that driver. (When the driver was originally installed, Acronis assumed it could not be removed! A poster on the Acronis forum, showed them how to write an uninstaller. The crappy driver was the one sitting on my WinXP install, and prevented Capacity Manager from working. As I said, "torture and hair loss". I had to restore a two year old backup, prep the disk with Capacity Manager, restore my present day OS, and install the newer driver again. http://support.wdc.com/product/downl...id=613&lang=en "Acronis True Image WD Edition Software Download" (should include Capacity Manager) I have this "cleanup utility" link bookmarked, but I don't know if this was what I eventually used or not. https://kb.acronis.com/content/34876 If the drive is giving timeout errors and you have to return it, consider all the time it saved you, on testing Acronis (free) software from WDC. Paul |
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WD HDD Purple People Eater
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:06:43 -0500, Paul wrote:
You can use the Acronis Volume Manager driver, to convert a 3TB drive, into a 2TB physical drive and a 1TB virtual drive. Suitable for WinXP. That's how I use two 3TB drives here, with WinXP being the oldest OS in circulation. Since the 3TB drives are used for backups, they have to work on all platforms. Think I may have missed that one - took a brief look at Paragon (semi-convoluted .msi/NetFreameWork install), EaseUs TechEd Pro. -- a NoGo;- Seagate's also got a kernel driver for XP, but that may be asking for trouble on a dissimilar brand (perhaps that's a rebadged Acronis, for XP), in an apparently elusive but aspirant industrial hopes for capturing a valid market share of older machines of course interested in a stopgap over MS's XP hump on 2.2T limits. Alternately, if you wanted this magic hard drive of yours to work on all machines, you could use Linux and do an HPA, and clip the drive at the 2.2TB mark. I haven't tried this. Messed with that a little, not as much HPA, though. Initialized the drive (geometry reference) in GPartEd for both Fat32 and GPT - no go there, along with subsequent and sundry partition format sizes. I tested GPT here, on more modern OSes and it worked. I may be seeing what's particular about a Purple surveillance-oriented drive and expected environmental usage;- latency [non-]recovery issues being the issue apart from GPT compliance (to Win7, anyway). I find results using the drive on a USB enclosure to be a different set of failures. The Acronis Capacity Manager driver doesn't work in that case. In that case, I might be limited to GPT only (ruling out WinXP). In fact, the results were bad enough for my personal situation, I put the USB enclosures back in the box. They're useless to me at the moment. Could be there's a trail to that in updated or specialty USB drivers. My Rosewill bare drive USB caddies, $10 if not giveaways - I've three of them variously dated for firmware - appeared in good shape by regards for Win7 distinguishing functional driver devices. Of course there's only so much one can take of it, at times, escalated dealings with 3T and things becomes lucid enough to yank a DVD's SATA cable to slap that baby in by dangling cords. The installation of Capacity Manager is torture. It'll take you forever to get it working. I suffered hair loss :-) The thing is, if you *ever* used Acronis before, Acronis leaves an older driver on your OS. And you might not even be aware it is present. Acronis makes a removal tool, to remove that driver. (When the driver was originally installed, Acronis assumed it could not be removed! A poster on the Acronis forum, showed them how to write an uninstaller. The crappy driver was the one sitting on my WinXP install, and prevented Capacity Manager from working. As I said, "torture and hair loss". I had to restore a two year old backup, prep the disk with Capacity Manager, restore my present day OS, and install the newer driver again. http://support.wdc.com/product/downl...id=613&lang=en "Acronis True Image WD Edition Software Download" (should include Capacity Manager) Scarry stuff. Hey, I'm "the breeze," just want things simple;- although there's some give, I'm leaning to other direction, how others view this -- that, 'if you want to play ball in the real show, get yourself a real MB with real tools for working with real 2.2T+ drives.' Double-edged, too, for "nocounts," those remaining anyway, whom happen to feel comfortable around XP. I have this "cleanup utility" link bookmarked, but I don't know if this was what I eventually used or not. https://kb.acronis.com/content/34876 If the drive is giving timeout errors and you have to return it, consider all the time it saved you, on testing Acronis (free) software from WDC. AMEN, Paul. (I was hopping like hell you wouldn't pull something from your magic rabbit's technical hat to convince me to pull that PurplePeople Eater out again for another round. It's going bye-bye on Monday.) I'll stick to my lowly league for the time being;- as I said, there's more than a fair share of actual representative drives, new, valid, and no less competitively positioned/priced, within yesterday's MB's compliance, for factoring where opinions, or press, might have one believe Win7+ and larger storage capacities purely dominate validity for future computing (and its economic market sell). |
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