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Wireless + Wired LAN?
Does anything bad happen if you have both wireless and wired
connections running on the same laptop? I'm trying to intuit whether something gets confused by having the common addresses between the two networks, if the respective routers happen to assign them. Does Zone Alarm somewhere distinguish them? Say you want the wired IP addresses trusted but not the wireless ones, and the number ranges overlap. Second question, what wireless router should I get? I see a thousand choices and no way to distinguish them. Some of them have wired ports, I gather - do these work like a wired router, and the wireless slots available are essentially unlimited? Or is there some maximum count on attached computers that I can pick out of the literature for each? In both cases, there's no internet connection going to either kind of router, I'll use them as switches only. I live in dialup country. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
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Wireless + Wired LAN?
you can only use one or the other
"Ron Hardin" wrote in message ... Does anything bad happen if you have both wireless and wired connections running on the same laptop? I'm trying to intuit whether something gets confused by having the common addresses between the two networks, if the respective routers happen to assign them. Does Zone Alarm somewhere distinguish them? Say you want the wired IP addresses trusted but not the wireless ones, and the number ranges overlap. Second question, what wireless router should I get? I see a thousand choices and no way to distinguish them. Some of them have wired ports, I gather - do these work like a wired router, and the wireless slots available are essentially unlimited? Or is there some maximum count on attached computers that I can pick out of the literature for each? In both cases, there's no internet connection going to either kind of router, I'll use them as switches only. I live in dialup country. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
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Sometimes Windows gets confused and you have to disable one of the
interfaces. Other time it works fine. I have not figured out why the confusion only occurs sometimes. Ron Hardin wrote: Does anything bad happen if you have both wireless and wired connections running on the same laptop? I'm trying to intuit whether something gets confused by having the common addresses between the two networks, if the respective routers happen to assign them. Does Zone Alarm somewhere distinguish them? Say you want the wired IP addresses trusted but not the wireless ones, and the number ranges overlap. Second question, what wireless router should I get? I see a thousand choices and no way to distinguish them. Some of them have wired ports, I gather - do these work like a wired router, and the wireless slots available are essentially unlimited? Or is there some maximum count on attached computers that I can pick out of the literature for each? In both cases, there's no internet connection going to either kind of router, I'll use them as switches only. I live in dialup country. |
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 10:34:09 GMT, Ron Hardin
wrote: Second question, what wireless router should I get? I see a thousand choices and no way to distinguish them. Some of them have wired ports, I gather - do these work like a wired router, I like and have always used Linksys with good results. My wireless router does have wired ports too, which I use for my desktop PC and will use for a laser printer unless I decide to splurge for a wireless one. |
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 10:34:09 GMT, Ron Hardin
wrote: Does anything bad happen if you have both wireless and wired connections running on the same laptop? I'm trying to intuit whether something gets confused by having the common addresses between the two networks, if the respective routers happen to assign them. I forgot but I read in a network book about 2 or 3 years ago that had the answer to your question but I don't remember what it said so I'll take my best guess. I think as long as the two networks aren't active at the same time I would think no problem but if they are, I'd think you get a error message to the effect unless you use a bridge between networks. To be honest tho, I don't have 100% recall what I read so you better get confirmation on this. While waiting on this, you may want to do a google search on bridged networks and if applicable, how to do it. |
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Ron Hardin wrote:
Does anything bad happen if you have both wireless and wired connections running on the same laptop? Hi Ron If both networks are separate, that would be fine - unless they are both using the same subnet. In that case, there would be two entries in the laptops routing table for the same subnet, so Windows will load-balance across the two routes, sending some traffic via the wireless and some via the LAN. Clearly that won't work if the device you're talking to is only on one network. If it's all one big network, ie you have your laptop plugged in to a wireless router, and also setup on the wifi, then you'll likely encounter problems because again both interfaces will be on the same subnet, here at least though it doesn't matter which is used as they both go to the same place. Stateful protocols - such as SMB - will be broken by this though because the device at the other end expects the whole session to come from a fixed single ip address... So, in short, unless both networks are separate physically and/or at least separate subnets then only have one enabled at a time. Cheers Alex |
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The confusion occurs because it is Windows! ... Ben Myers
On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:32:44 -0400, Barry Watzman wrote: Sometimes Windows gets confused and you have to disable one of the interfaces. Other time it works fine. I have not figured out why the confusion only occurs sometimes. Ron Hardin wrote: Does anything bad happen if you have both wireless and wired connections running on the same laptop? I'm trying to intuit whether something gets confused by having the common addresses between the two networks, if the respective routers happen to assign them. Does Zone Alarm somewhere distinguish them? Say you want the wired IP addresses trusted but not the wireless ones, and the number ranges overlap. Second question, what wireless router should I get? I see a thousand choices and no way to distinguish them. Some of them have wired ports, I gather - do these work like a wired router, and the wireless slots available are essentially unlimited? Or is there some maximum count on attached computers that I can pick out of the literature for each? In both cases, there's no internet connection going to either kind of router, I'll use them as switches only. I live in dialup country. |
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I continue to use and I resell with 100% good results the Linksys routers. The
WRT54G is a bargain at around $50 in many mass market retailers. They are all pushing the "turbo" and not-really-802.11n routers which offer little more bang for much higher bucks... Ben Myers On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:02:11 -0500, Journey wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2007 10:34:09 GMT, Ron Hardin wrote: Second question, what wireless router should I get? I see a thousand choices and no way to distinguish them. Some of them have wired ports, I gather - do these work like a wired router, I like and have always used Linksys with good results. My wireless router does have wired ports too, which I use for my desktop PC and will use for a laser printer unless I decide to splurge for a wireless one. |
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Well, I used to use Linksys routers, but I have had horrible failure
rates with them. They start out working, but in 3 to 12 months, they become "flakey" ... they either have to be reset (pull the power plug & re-insert way too often ... like daily), or they reset themselves for no reason (they "come back", but you are down for 5 to 30 seconds). I tolerated this for far too long, going through about a dozen units (mostly BEFSR81 .... 8-port wired router (with an external Wireless Access Point) in about 6 years. After I switched to VoIP phone service, I could not longer tolerate it, and I switched to D-Link. My luck with D-Link has been MUCH better, the routers go for months at a time without a single hiccup. Ben Myers wrote: I continue to use and I resell with 100% good results the Linksys routers. The WRT54G is a bargain at around $50 in many mass market retailers. They are all pushing the "turbo" and not-really-802.11n routers which offer little more bang for much higher bucks... Ben Myers On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:02:11 -0500, Journey wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2007 10:34:09 GMT, Ron Hardin wrote: Second question, what wireless router should I get? I see a thousand choices and no way to distinguish them. Some of them have wired ports, I gather - do these work like a wired router, I like and have always used Linksys with good results. My wireless router does have wired ports too, which I use for my desktop PC and will use for a laser printer unless I decide to splurge for a wireless one. |
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Wireless + Wired LAN?
With both Wired and Wirless activated I get a warning from Network
Magic.. My network does not work.. |
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