Laptops Direct + Missing Pixels

Johannes H Andersen wrote:

Fat Freddy's Cat wrote:

Dr Teeth wrote:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 19:46:33 GMT, Johannes H Andersen
wrote:


Hmm, I'm still skeptical. 'Perfect condition' relative to some industry
standard? The only phrase that would convince me would be: "No pixel errors".
Why beat about the bush if that's what it means?


Exactly.
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Although I am usually a firm believer in prolonging the spectacle of
****s floundering about with half-hearted attempts to cover their own
idiocy, I think its time I let the 2 of you off the hook on this point.

Its clear you've made big enough arses of yourselves without further
input from me. It was funny at first letting the guys at work read your
ever-more desperate responses, but alas all good things have to come to
an end.

See you in another thread,
g.

Nice try, but water down a duck's back. Too old to be so sensitive,
especially when I'm in the right...

I ask again, why beat about the bush with weasel words? Why don't they
state loud and clearly that the check will guarantee zero pixels!

Sorry, If course this should rather be zero dead pixels :-)
You may smile, but not for too long. It's late; this is my excuse...

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:20:42 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:

Apparently their website confirms that those that pay the extra
charge get a machine with no dead pixels

I actually went and looked :-p

"or you are concerned about purchasing a laptop with missing pixels
then choosing our Pre-Delivery Inspection service will give you the
reassurance that your laptop will arrive in perfect condition."

Now it does not exactly say that. Implies yes, states no.
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Dr Teeth wrote:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:20:42 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:


Apparently their website confirms that those that pay the extra
charge get a machine with no dead pixels


I actually went and looked :-p

"or you are concerned about purchasing a laptop with missing pixels
then choosing our Pre-Delivery Inspection service will give you the
reassurance that your laptop will arrive in perfect condition."

Now it does not exactly say that. Implies yes, states no.

It looks like the sort of phrasing that guarantees a living to the
lawyers :-)

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:37:24 GMT, Mike Scott
wrote:

It looks like the sort of phrasing that guarantees a living to the
lawyers :-)

That thought had speculated about crossing my mind too g!
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In message , Dr Teeth
writes
Some Herbert read that to mean that the OP was guaranteed a screen with
no dead pixels.

So they charge £45 to tell you your new screen has dead pixels?

Yeah right..
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On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:37:33 +0100, "yes" wrote:


It takes approx 15 seconds to check for dead pixels. Installation of SP2
takes about 2 minutes.

Amd the laptop mysteriously unpacks itself, boots up, runs the SP2
installtion then puts itself nicley into the box? You are still paying
someone X quid per hour to do that, say in lost time doing the QA
inspection about 1/2 hr in real terms if they are going to take some
care over unpacking and re-packing thats still after a 15 minute
install and test only about 7 minutes per pack/unpack. So its more 100
per hour that 1300, which is still a little high but there are plenty
of people who charge that sort of rate for consultancy.

As for 15 seconds for a dead pixel test, It depends on what they test
is. Are they installing their own test software which will then cycle
though testing for permentantly off/on pixels and sub pixels? I would
expect a proper test to last a few minutes.

2 minutes to instally SP2, then that must be some seriously fast
laptop to do that.

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On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:17:12 GMT, Johannes H Andersen
wrote:



In truth, nobody knows for sure what the check was about; but it doesn't
follow at all that it was a check for 100% pixel perfection. After all
The most common quality checks are for conformance to tolerances. So
with nothing in writing to the contrary, it is not unreasonable to assume
that it is just an extra quality control check.

A quick search of their website reveals:

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asp/p...rchFor=&PT_ID=

Its a gaurantee of zero pixel defects, i.e. testing for complaince to
Class I TFT pixel defects.


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Gama Chameleon wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:17:12 GMT, Johannes H Andersen
wrote:



In truth, nobody knows for sure what the check was about; but it doesn't
follow at all that it was a check for 100% pixel perfection. After all
The most common quality checks are for conformance to tolerances. So
with nothing in writing to the contrary, it is not unreasonable to assume
that it is just an extra quality control check.


A quick search of their website reveals:

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asp/p...rchFor=&PT_ID=

Its a gaurantee of zero pixel defects, i.e. testing for complaince to
Class I TFT pixel defects.



Wasting your time mate...
Dr Teeth and Johannes would argue black was white rather than admit they
were simply *wrong* on this point. It has been rather funny though
stringing them along for a while.

g.

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:21:20 +0100, Fat Freddy's Cat
wrote:

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Wasting your time mate...
Dr Teeth and Johannes would argue black was white rather than admit they
were simply *wrong* on this point. It has been rather funny though
stringing them along for a while.

I guess its much easier to fly of the handle that do a quick google
for the company :-)
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:11:05 +0100, Dr Teeth
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:20:42 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:

Apparently their website confirms that those that pay the extra
charge get a machine with no dead pixels

I actually went and looked :-p

"or you are concerned about purchasing a laptop with missing pixels
then choosing our Pre-Delivery Inspection service will give you the
reassurance that your laptop will arrive in perfect condition."

Now it does not exactly say that. Implies yes, states no.

Of course just below that, it also reads:

"Guarantee of no missing pixels "

But I guess if you want you could start a pointless thread on about
how they possibly don't gaurantee no permentantly lit pixels, or that
they don't word explicity wether thats the colour element pixels (also
sometimes called sub pixels) or not. Or you could argue that they are
stating that there are no holes in the TFT and a dead pixel is still a
pixel on the display and not physically missing from the pannel. :-)

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