I NOW OFFICIALY HATE AMD

On May 27, 7:26*am, "Skybuck Flying" wrote:
"
That leaves me with two 939 CPUs and not a mobo to be found.
"

ASRock has a 939 "mobo"... I have one in my DreamPC right now... so far it's
working ! =D

Bye,
* Skybuck.

Why would anyone sell a 939 mobo in 2011?

I'll go look to see if it is being sold, but you have to wonder why
bother. I built a quad core AMD for a server that still runs (used to
be linux, but I had to put the win7 drives on it after the 939 mobo
blew). At some point, running old PCs gets silly if you use them a
lot.

I'm going to attempt to set up the bulldozer with Xen virtualization.
Assuming the bulldozer has an IOMMU, I should be able to have full
hardware control. You may bitch about AMD, but you need to buy a
server grade CPU from intel to get an IOMMU, while some consumer grade
mobos from AMD have this feature.

I'm told Xen is the most efficient virtualization scheme, but also the
hardest to implement.

Regarding graphic frame rates, the GPU has the most influence. I use
ATI cards mostly, which is also AMD. You may hate AMD, I like them.
OK, I'm not particularly thrilled with the orange colored partitions
they use (used?) at AMD HQ.

"mikea" wrote in message ...

In alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus Shaun wrote:

Bye,
Skybuck.

Stop GodsDamnit Morphing so I can killfile you properly!

I am Shaun, I am NOT Skybuck. Get it straight!

Shaun


--
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Now _there's_ a signal report you don't often enter in your log...
True... most of us are too busy running away from the electric arcs
and dodging the ball lightning :-) -- Dave Platt, in r.r.a.h

On Fri, 27 May 2011 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Why would anyone sell a 939 mobo in 2011?

Service items for folks that have "dedicated" ROM programmers, etc., and
want to replace the MOBO and MIRROR the HD so, the OS will want to see
the same hardware.

Happens all the time.

Replace what is broke with the exact same item, and keep rolling.

Buy new, and there are program installs, license set-ups... all kinds
of things to perhaps have concerns over.

ebay has quite a few of my Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe 939.

http://tinyurl.com/3uogvpl

They sell too. D'oh!

On Fri, 27 May 2011 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Regarding graphic frame rates, the GPU has the most influence. I use
ATI cards mostly, which is also AMD. You may hate AMD, I like them.
OK, I'm not particularly thrilled with the orange colored partitions
they use (used?) at AMD HQ.


You're an idiot to allow such idiosyncratic horse**** influence your
life so much.

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On May 27, 7:26 am, "Skybuck Flying" wrote:
"
That leaves me with two 939 CPUs and not a mobo to be found.
"

ASRock has a 939 "mobo"... I have one in my DreamPC right now... so far
it's
working ! =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

"
Why would anyone sell a 939 mobo in 2011?
"

A few simple reasons come to mind:

1. Many hot Socket 939 processors where sold and burned/killed motherboards.

2. Perhaps most Socket 939 had bad capacitators.

3. Perhaps many people in the world still have "ungrounded" power wall
sockets which could lead to "motherboard shock death" when connecting other
devices, thus needing new motherboards.

"I'll go look to see if it is being sold,"

All webstores in the Netherlands seem to have and sell them, so I would say
they being sold like warm bread

(Added benefit 7-in-1 flash card reader device seems to work just nicely, so
perhaps better support for 2006 technology and beyond, perhaps also better
drivers/support for operating systems via driver cd).

"but you have to wonder why bother. "

To save a lot of money on other components like processor, heatsink, memory,
power supply, pretty much everything.

Also to have a somewhat older system to test backwards compatibility
(Interesting for programmers I would think perhaps other people too)

"
I built a quad core AMD for a server that still runs (used to
be linux, but I had to put the win7 drives on it after the 939 mobo
blew).
"

The mobo blew ?!? Well there ya go ?! How come ?!

"
At some point, running old PCs gets silly if you use them a
lot.
"

Socket 939 isn't that old, it's still pretty modern for desktop usage at
least.

"
I'm going to attempt to set up the bulldozer with Xen virtualization.
"

I have no experience with xen virtualization.

I would guess it's something like VMWare or virtual PC.

Xen I think I have heard of it... perhaps it's for Linux which you
mentioned.

"
Assuming the bulldozer has an IOMMU,
"

I don't know what this is... perhaps I will look it up

Probably has something to do with I/O acceleration for virtualization ?

" I should be able to have full hardware control. "

Sounds like direct hardware access for virtualized environments

Not really virtual is it then ?!

"
You may bitch about AMD, but you need to buy a
server grade CPU from intel to get an IOMMU, while some consumer grade
mobos from AMD have this feature.
"

Hmmm could be interesting, perhaps I will look into it further

"
I'm told Xen is the most efficient virtualization scheme, but also the
hardest to implement.
"

Yeah why don't you simply stick with something easy like VMWare or VirtualPC
or perhaps even "boot into vhd" a new windows 7 feature (still buggy perhaps
but it's getting there !) (vhd=virtual harddisk)


"
Regarding graphic frame rates, the GPU has the most influence. I use
ATI cards mostly, which is also AMD.
"

"You may hate AMD, I like them."

Hmm... I just hated them a little bit because of no specifications for
either chip or fan ! That sucks... their manual only explains how to install
it and nothing more ! BAH ! And there website might suck as well... hard to
find this information on it... especially on a somewhat older system !

Their website search function is also not much help it seems.

It finds weird/crappy documents/articles or something.

Instead of nice PDF specs or something yeah.

"
OK, I'm not particularly thrilled with the orange colored partitions
they use (used?) at AMD HQ."

??? "file system partitions" "building/room partitions" ?

Who the fok gives a fok about their HQ ?!? LOL.

You work there ?! LOL. Or in the neighbourhood ?!

Anyway show us a picture link... could be fun to look it !

Bye,
Skybuck =D

On May 27, 6:16*pm, FatBytestard
wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2011 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:
Regarding graphic frame rates, the GPU has the most influence. I use
ATI cards mostly, which is also AMD. You may hate AMD, I like them.
OK, I'm not particularly thrilled with the orange colored partitions
they use (used?) at AMD HQ.

* You're an idiot to allow such idiosyncratic horse**** influence your
life so much.

Have a nice day.

On May 27, 6:49*pm, "Skybuck Flying" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On May 27, 7:26 am, "Skybuck Flying" wrote:

"
That leaves me with two 939 CPUs and not a mobo to be found.
"

ASRock has a 939 "mobo"... I have one in my DreamPC right now... so far
it's
working ! =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

"
Why would anyone sell a 939 mobo in 2011?
"

A few simple reasons come to mind:

1. Many hot Socket 939 processors where sold and burned/killed motherboards.

2. Perhaps most Socket 939 had bad capacitators.

3. Perhaps many people in the world still have "ungrounded" power wall
sockets which could lead to "motherboard shock death" when connecting other
devices, thus needing new motherboards.

"I'll go look to see if it is being sold,"

All webstores in the Netherlands seem to have and sell them, so I would say
they being sold like warm bread

(Added benefit 7-in-1 flash card reader device seems to work just nicely, so
perhaps better support for 2006 technology and beyond, perhaps also better
drivers/support for operating systems via driver cd).

"but you have to wonder why bother. "

To save a lot of money on other components like processor, heatsink, memory,
power supply, pretty much everything.

Also to have a somewhat older system to test backwards compatibility
(Interesting for programmers I would think perhaps other people too)

"
I built a quad core AMD for a server that still runs (used to
be linux, but I had to put the win7 drives on it after the 939 mobo
blew).
"

The mobo blew ?!? Well there ya go ?! How come ?!

"
*At some point, running old PCs gets silly if you use them a
lot.
"

Socket 939 isn't that old, it's still pretty modern for desktop usage at
least.

"
I'm going to attempt to set up the bulldozer with Xen virtualization.
"

I have no experience with xen virtualization.

I would guess it's something like VMWare or virtual PC.

Xen I think I have heard of it... perhaps it's for Linux which you
mentioned.

"
Assuming the bulldozer has an IOMMU,
"

I don't know what this is... perhaps I will look it up

Probably has something to do with I/O acceleration for virtualization ?

" I should be able to have full hardware control. "

Sounds like direct hardware access for virtualized environments

Not really virtual is it then ?!

"
You may bitch about AMD, but you need to buy a
server grade CPU from intel to get an IOMMU, while some consumer grade
mobos from AMD have this feature.
"

Hmmm could be interesting, perhaps I will look into it further

"
I'm told Xen is the most efficient virtualization scheme, but also the
hardest to implement.
"

Yeah why don't you simply stick with something easy like VMWare or VirtualPC
or perhaps even "boot into vhd" a new windows 7 feature (still buggy perhaps
but it's getting there !) (vhd=virtual harddisk)

"
Regarding graphic frame rates, the GPU has the most influence. I use
ATI cards mostly, which is also AMD.
"

"You may hate AMD, I like them."

Hmm... I just hated them a little bit because of no specifications for
either chip or fan ! That sucks... their manual only explains how to install
it and nothing more ! BAH ! And there website might suck as well... hard to
find this information on it... especially on a somewhat older system !

Their website search function is also not much help it seems.

It finds weird/crappy documents/articles or something.

Instead of nice PDF specs or something yeah.

"
OK, I'm not particularly thrilled with the orange colored partitions
they use (used?) at AMD HQ."

??? "file system partitions" "building/room partitions" ?

Who the fok gives a fok about their HQ ?!? LOL.

You work there ?! LOL. Or in the neighbourhood ?!

Anyway show us a picture link... could be fun to look it !

Bye,
* Skybuck =D

The IOMMU supposedly let you use the stock drivers from the
manufacturer rather than the drivers VMWare supplies. Since I have no
first hand experience with one yet, all I can say is what it
supposedly does. Reality is always another story.

VMWare can be really flaky with peripherals.

On 5/27/2011 4:58 PM, Shaun wrote:


"mikea" wrote in message ...
In alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus Shaun wrote:

Bye,
Skybuck.

Stop GodsDamnit Morphing so I can killfile you properly!

I am Shaun, I am NOT Skybuck. Get it straight!

Shaun


You aren't, it's obvious now. Some of us olde farts on Usenet see morphs
and sockpuppetry too early on. I thinks that somewhere the
quote/attributions thing confused a few of us.

I didn't chase your headers like I should have..
NNTP-Posting-Host: 50.72.242.11
Skyfart obviously can't post from "shawcable.net"

Besides, I don't think he'd have the skills to either morph or sockpuppet.





--
"**** this is it, all the pieces do fit.
We're like that crazy old man jumping
out of the alleyway with a baseball bat,
saying, "Remember me mother****er?"
Jim “Dandy” Mangrum

On Tue, 31 May 2011 02:03:40 -0700, "Nobody (Revisited)"
wrote:

You aren't, it's obvious now. Some of us olde farts on Usenet see morphs
and sockpuppetry too early on. I thinks that somewhere the
quote/attributions thing confused a few of us.

Your replies are just as obnoxious as Skybucks original posts. I have
Skybuck kill-filtered... if you're going to continue to reply then have
the courtesy to use a consistent nym so that I can filter *you* too.

"Nobody (Revisited)" wrote in message
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On 5/27/2011 4:58 PM, Shaun wrote:


"mikea" wrote in message ...
In alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus Shaun wrote:

Bye,
Skybuck.

Stop GodsDamnit Morphing so I can killfile you properly!

I am Shaun, I am NOT Skybuck. Get it straight!

Shaun


You aren't, it's obvious now. Some of us olde farts on Usenet see morphs
and sockpuppetry too early on. I thinks that somewhere the
quote/attributions thing confused a few of us.

I didn't chase your headers like I should have..
NNTP-Posting-Host: 50.72.242.11
Skyfart obviously can't post from "shawcable.net"

Besides, I don't think he'd have the skills to either morph or sockpuppet.


thank you,

Shaun


--
"**** this is it, all the pieces do fit.
We're like that crazy old man jumping
out of the alleyway with a baseball bat,
saying, "Remember me mother****er?"
Jim “Dandy” Mangrum