mbr for 40G harddrive?

I didn't know that windows could do that. It doesn't wipe out the files?
(like creating partitions with fdisk?) Would be interested in information on
how to do it.

Thanks.

"Bob" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 May 2005 04:15:30 -0400, "*selah*"
wrote:

I had a problem with a trojan on a maxtor 40G drive. . After supposedly
getting rid of it with avg I wasn't able to use winword 97. I wiped out
the
old mbr (and, I think, the partition table) and replaced it with the mbr,
etc. of a 2.5G win98 drive. Now fdisk is only finding 2.5G on the 40G
drive
(and only some of the files are available, plus, it won't boot.)

Why not use Windows Setup to partition it over again. Just delete any
partitions you have and tell Windows installation to create a new
partition.

"*selah*" wrote:

I had a problem with a trojan on a maxtor 40G drive. . After supposedly
getting rid of it with avg I wasn't able to use winword 97. I wiped out the
old mbr (and, I think, the partition table) and replaced it with the mbr,
etc. of a 2.5G win98 drive.

Ignorance isn't a sin, but combined with hyper activity makes it harmful, as you
just learned. Not really surprising, for a top-poster !

Where from did you take the idea of replacing the MBR of your hard drive to fix
a Winword problem? This isn't just nonsense - it's sheer stupidity!

Now fdisk is only finding 2.5G on the 40G drive
(and only some of the files are available, plus, it won't boot.)

That's really bad! For you data sake, hope that replacing the MBR was the only
stupidity conducted on the drive. Being able to see some of the files with the
wrong MBR may indicate that you also overwrote part of the FAT and root
directory. If this is the case, then the chances to recover your data are
smaller.

Follow instructions how to recover the drive and data, if still possible:

Get RESQ from www.resq.co.il/resq.php and prepare a RESQ boot disk as explained
in the ResQ program welcome message.

Set the drive type to "auto" in the setup (modern BIOSes will show the drive's
model instead).

Boot of the RESQ floppy just made. When at the A: prompt, run RESQDISK /KILL of
the floppy. This will reset the partition table to zero, then reboot, with the
RESQ floppy in the drive. Rebooting after zeroing the partition table is a
MUST, to let the BIOS re detect the drive, with the correct settings.

When at the A: prompt, run RESQDISK /FAT32 /REBUILD The program will offer to
write a new MBR when finished with the search. Accept, then reboot, this time
without the floppy in the drive. Windows should start normally if you haven't
done more nonsense that you didn't tell us about.

Regards, Zvi

"Zvi Netiv" wrote in message
"*selah*" wrote:

Is there anywhere to get an mbr for a 40G hard drive using win98? (besides
getting another one and setting it up).

Please state the purpose you need that MBR for. If to recover a drive that lost
its partition table or self boot ability, then the answer is yes, there is.
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"*selah*" wrote:

I didn't know that windows could do that. It doesn't wipe out the files?
(like creating partitions with fdisk?) Would be interested in information on
how to do it.

Ignore "spam" advice, if you don't want to lose you data (or what can still be
recovered of it).

Zvi

"Bob" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 May 2005 04:15:30 -0400, "*selah*"
wrote:

I had a problem with a trojan on a maxtor 40G drive. . After supposedly
getting rid of it with avg I wasn't able to use winword 97. I wiped out the
old mbr (and, I think, the partition table) and replaced it with the mbr,
etc. of a 2.5G win98 drive. Now fdisk is only finding 2.5G on the 40G drive
(and only some of the files are available, plus, it won't boot.)

Why not use Windows Setup to partition it over again. Just delete any
partitions you have and tell Windows installation to create a new
partition.
--
NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL www.invircible.com www.ivi.co.il (Hebrew)
InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities

"Eric Gisin" wrote:
wrote in message

fdisk /mbr will restore your original MBR.

Regards,
Yaroslav.

Clueless. He trashed his partition table by copying it from a smaller drive.

The OP should zero the bad MBR and run data recovery software.

Zeroing the partition (NOT with FDISK) is the first step. The next step is to
rebuild the MBR from scratch (again, NOT with FDISK). If all he did was
importing an unfit MBR, then he has a chance to recover the drive to full
functionality, with all the data on it, and without needing data recovery.

See my other post in this thread

Regards, Zvi
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On Sat, 14 May 2005 03:20:43 -0400, "*selah*"
wrote:

Please don't top post. It makes following the thread difficult and
makes replying harder. It's alos the sign of an amateur, which is not
something you want to look like on a technical forum.

I didn't know that windows could do that. It doesn't wipe out the files?
(like creating partitions with fdisk?) Would be interested in information on
how to do it.

I should have been more explicit. If you use the so-called "In-Place
Upgrade" (IPU) in Win2K, it appears that the partition is repaired
without loss of data.

I say "appears" because I do not know what really happens. I had an
unbootable disk that was made bootable after I did an IPU, so Win2K
did something to the partition information.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;292175
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306952/EN-US/

"Bob" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 May 2005 04:15:30 -0400, "*selah*"
wrote:

I had a problem with a trojan on a maxtor 40G drive. . After supposedly
getting rid of it with avg I wasn't able to use winword 97. I wiped out
the
old mbr (and, I think, the partition table) and replaced it with the mbr,
etc. of a 2.5G win98 drive. Now fdisk is only finding 2.5G on the 40G
drive
(and only some of the files are available, plus, it won't boot.)

Why not use Windows Setup to partition it over again. Just delete any
partitions you have and tell Windows installation to create a new
partition.

On Sat, 14 May 2005 11:21:25 +0300, Zvi Netiv
wrote:

I didn't know that windows could do that. It doesn't wipe out the files?
(like creating partitions with fdisk?) Would be interested in information on
how to do it.

Ignore "spam" advice, if you don't want to lose you data (or what can still be
recovered of it).

Just what "spam" advice are you referring to?

"Bob" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 May 2005 04:15:30 -0400, "*selah*"
wrote:

I had a problem with a trojan on a maxtor 40G drive. . After supposedly
getting rid of it with avg I wasn't able to use winword 97. I wiped out the
old mbr (and, I think, the partition table) and replaced it with the mbr,
etc. of a 2.5G win98 drive. Now fdisk is only finding 2.5G on the 40G drive
(and only some of the files are available, plus, it won't boot.)

Why not use Windows Setup to partition it over again. Just delete any
partitions you have and tell Windows installation to create a new
partition.
--
NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL www.invircible.com www.ivi.co.il (Hebrew)
InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities

On Thu, 12 May 2005 17:01:44 -0400, "*selah*"
wrote:

Is there anywhere to get an mbr for a 40G hard drive using win98? (besides
getting another one and setting it up).

Use the Windows 2000 or XP MBR. All 98 versions contain errors.
--
Svend Olaf

(Bob) wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2005 11:21:25 +0300, Zvi Netiv
wrote:

I didn't know that windows could do that. It doesn't wipe out the files?
(like creating partitions with fdisk?) Would be interested in information on
how to do it.

Ignore "spam" advice, if you don't want to lose you data (or what can still be
recovered of it).

Just what "spam" advice are you referring to?

Your post that preceded mine, what else!

"Why not use Windows Setup to partition it over again. Just delete any
partitions you have and tell Windows installation to create a new
partition."

Regards
--
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InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities

Bob is a troll. He did not read your message. He doesn't have a clue.

"*selah*" wrote in message
...
I didn't know that windows could do that. It doesn't wipe out the files?
(like creating partitions with fdisk?) Would be interested in information
on
how to do it.

Thanks.

"Bob" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 May 2005 04:15:30 -0400, "*selah*"
wrote:

I had a problem with a trojan on a maxtor 40G drive. . After supposedly
getting rid of it with avg I wasn't able to use winword 97. I wiped out
the
old mbr (and, I think, the partition table) and replaced it with the
mbr,
etc. of a 2.5G win98 drive. Now fdisk is only finding 2.5G on the 40G
drive
(and only some of the files are available, plus, it won't boot.)

Why not use Windows Setup to partition it over again. Just delete any
partitions you have and tell Windows installation to create a new
partition.

(Bob) wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2005 03:20:43 -0400, "*selah*"
wrote:

Please don't top post. It makes following the thread difficult and
makes replying harder. It's alos the sign of an amateur, which is not
something you want to look like on a technical forum.

Top-posting also reflects badly on the poster by conveying an egocentric message
to the readers that he doesn't give a damn about them.

I didn't know that windows could do that. It doesn't wipe out the files?
(like creating partitions with fdisk?) Would be interested in information on
how to do it.

I should have been more explicit. If you use the so-called "In-Place
Upgrade" (IPU) in Win2K, it appears that the partition is repaired
without loss of data.

Deadly wrong. The suggested in-place upgrade will convert a still recoverable
stupid mistake into full blown disaster. A repair or IPU installation won't
affect existing files only if the partition table, boot sector, FAT and root
directory contain ALL consistent data. Which is not the OP's case!

By transplanting a baboon's kidney (1.5 GB MBR) in place of a lion's heart (40
GB MBR), the setup will follow the geometry dictated by the MBR and by the BIOS
auto-detect (which attempts to achieve a best fit to what it finds in the MBR!),
and irreversibly mess up the system areas of the hard drive.

I say "appears" because I do not know what really happens.

That's obvious.

I had an
unbootable disk that was made bootable after I did an IPU, so Win2K
did something to the partition information.

Your case and this one differ totally. For one thing: the partition table in
your MBR was correct.

By the way, YOU could restore self-boot ability by just running FIXMBR from the
W2K repair console! No need for the entire IPU. ;-)

Regards, Zvi

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;292175
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306952/EN-US/

"Bob" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 May 2005 04:15:30 -0400, "*selah*"
wrote:

I had a problem with a trojan on a maxtor 40G drive. . After supposedly
getting rid of it with avg I wasn't able to use winword 97. I wiped out the
old mbr (and, I think, the partition table) and replaced it with the mbr,
etc. of a 2.5G win98 drive. Now fdisk is only finding 2.5G on the 40G drive
(and only some of the files are available, plus, it won't boot.)

Why not use Windows Setup to partition it over again. Just delete any
partitions you have and tell Windows installation to create a new
partition.
--
NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL www.invircible.com www.ivi.co.il (Hebrew)
InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities