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Automatic wire strippers!
A few months ago, a friend let me use his IRWIN
Self-Adjusting Wire Strippers. Sold! I figured they would be well over $50 but they are less than $20. Should have bought one when they were first available. Wish I had had one decades ago. Would have saved so much time and tremendous amount of hassle. That is a preliminary opinion based on one use. But it was 6-12 extremely thin (maybe 24-30 AWG) stranded wires and it did a great job, me having no experience and not even asking for instruction. Thick wire should be a breeze. I did not want to buy any more tools, would rather do computer stuff now, but that is an exception. The thing is not much more expensive than a lousy ordinary wire stripper. |
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Automatic wire strippers!
John Doe wrote:
A few months ago, a friend let me use his IRWIN Self-Adjusting Wire Strippers. Sold! I figured they would be well over $50 but they are less than $20. Should have bought one when they were first available. Wish I had had one decades ago. Would have saved so much time and tremendous amount of hassle. That is a preliminary opinion based on one use. But it was 6-12 extremely thin (maybe 24-30 AWG) stranded wires and it did a great job, me having no experience and not even asking for instruction. Thick wire should be a breeze. I did not want to buy any more tools, would rather do computer stuff now, but that is an exception. The thing is not much more expensive than a lousy ordinary wire stripper. Was it this item? http://www.irwin.com/tools/pliers-ad...-wire-stripper https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ire%20stripper |
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Automatic wire strippers!
VanguardLH wrote:
http://www.irwin.com/tools/pliers-ad...wrenches/self- adjusting-wire-stripper https://www.amazon.com/IRWIN-VISE-GR...ting-Stripper- 2078300/dp/B000OQ21CA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1492117062&sr=8-3 &keywords=Self-Adjusting+Wire+Stripper Tried it on some regular power cord wire. Wonderful. I so wish I had this decades ago. Then again, it wasn't available decades ago. Not that I do that much, but it would have been so much nicer. Wire stripping has always been a hassle. I do not like losing a strand or two of stranded wire. Apparently this tool does not damage the wire. |
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John Doe wrote:
Sorry, forgot to unwrap... https://www.amazon.com/IRWIN-VISE-GR...+Wire+Stripper Great for at home where you can have gobs of tools available in several toolboxes or at a workbench or cabinets. When travelling, I just have what fits in the one toolbox in my car so just the essential tools are in there. I use the wire cutter in a needle nose pliers to crimp (dent) around the insulation and then use the cutter to grip (not cut) the insulation to yank it off. The insulation breaks off at the crimp spot. My father's company was into construction, HVAC, electrical, and I saw this same technique by his electricians and where I learned it. Never needed to use anything more although I do have a more fancy one at home that I'll use when I'm there - unless it would take too long to hike over to that toolbox hoping to dig into the right one. |
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Automatic wire strippers!
Make a video...
-- VanguardLH V nguard.LH wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.unit0.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: VanguardLH V nguard.LH Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Subject: Automatic wire strippers! Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:13:09 -0500 Organization: Usenet Elder Lines: 17 Sender: VanguardLH Message-ID: elabflF9s71U1 mid.individual.net References: ocmcis$1b8$1 dont-email.me el856hFr2bkU1 mid.individual.net ocooou$2u4$1 dont-email.me ocop3l$2u4$7 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net P0WMmQgndjYe7pAxNifJ8gUFj+Zp/RtCTulkwPo6KWFzqK2bbY Keywords: VanguardLH VLH811 Cancel-Lock: sha1:PdKlmupn0Ru7zTiArQ35yOGp4jw= User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:35959 John Doe always.look message.header wrote: Sorry, forgot to unwrap... https://www.amazon.com/IRWIN-VISE-GR...+Wire+Stripper Great for at home where you can have gobs of tools available in several toolboxes or at a workbench or cabinets. When travelling, I just have what fits in the one toolbox in my car so just the essential tools are in there. I use the wire cutter in a needle nose pliers to crimp (dent) around the insulation and then use the cutter to grip (not cut) the insulation to yank it off. The insulation breaks off at the crimp spot. My father's company was into construction, HVAC, electrical, and I saw this same technique by his electricians and where I learned it. Never needed to use anything more although I do have a more fancy one at home that I'll use when I'm there - unless it would take too long to hike over to that toolbox hoping to dig into the right one. |
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Automatic wire strippers!
John Doe wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: http://www.irwin.com/tools/pliers-ad...wrenches/self- adjusting-wire-stripper https://www.amazon.com/IRWIN-VISE-GR...ting-Stripper- 2078300/dp/B000OQ21CA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1492117062&sr=8-3 &keywords=Self-Adjusting+Wire+Stripper Tried it on some regular power cord wire. Wonderful. I so wish I had this decades ago. Then again, it wasn't available decades ago. Not that I do that much, but it would have been so much nicer. Wire stripping has always been a hassle. I do not like losing a strand or two of stranded wire. Apparently this tool does not damage the wire. Automatic wire strippers have existed for a long time. We had a pair at work. Only problem with them was: 1) Price. They charged "industrial" prices for them. 2) Probably didn't work quite as well as the one you got. I played with ours at work, but felt no attraction to them. They were a novelty item in the tool chest. I did most of my work with this style. http://www.officedepot.com/a/product...Stripper-Wire/ Everyone has probably seen this kind, and these suck. It takes a good deal of practice to keep the wire nicking to a minimum. I used these for some number of years as a hobbyist, before I got my first T-5 style stripper. The non-automated ones still take practice, but the ones in the following picture make the practice brutal. I expect a lot of people, this is all they had on sale at the hardware store. http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/ma...9937p.html#srp And there are all sorts of insulation types, each with their own foibles. Not every wire stripping job is easy. Paul |
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Paul wrote:
John Doe wrote: https://www.amazon.com/IRWIN-VISE-GR...+Wire+Stripper Tried it on some regular power cord wire. Wonderful. I so wish I had this decades ago. Then again, it wasn't available decades ago. Not that I do that much, but it would have been so much nicer. Wire stripping has always been a hassle. I do not like losing a strand or two of stranded wire. Apparently this tool does not damage the wire. Automatic wire strippers have existed for a long time. We had a pair at work. Shurly you can find images on Google... Only problem with them was: 1) Price. They charged "industrial" prices for them. I expected this one to cost a lot more. 2) Probably didn't work quite as well as the one you got. I played with ours at work, but felt no attraction to them. They were a novelty item in the tool chest. I did most of my work with this style. http://www.officedepot.com/a/product...Stripper-Wire/ Everyone has probably seen this kind, and these suck. It takes a good deal of practice to keep the wire nicking to a minimum. I used these for some number of years as a hobbyist, before I got my first T-5 style stripper. The non-automated ones still take practice, but the ones in the following picture make the practice brutal. I expect a lot of people, this is all they had on sale at the hardware store. http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/ma...9937p.html#srp And there are all sorts of insulation types, each with their own foibles. Not every wire stripping job is easy. I have very good coordination, as in mouse-slinging multiplayer gaming and juggling. But I find the large majority of wire stripping to be a pain in the rear. Besides the issues you mention, one obvious problem with the typical wire strippers you point to is the fact the cutting edges are angled in opposite directions. When you are pulling to remove the insulation, one side of the cutter is digging into the wire and the other side is moving away from the wire. But I doubt the junk can be made any other way. Otherwise it will not cut into the insulation. Check out some of the videos on YouTube. https://youtu.be/ZytYjq9X78A?t=204 |
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John Doe wrote:
Paul wrote: John Doe wrote: https://www.amazon.com/IRWIN-VISE-GR...+Wire+Stripper Tried it on some regular power cord wire. Wonderful. I so wish I had this decades ago. Then again, it wasn't available decades ago. Not that I do that much, but it would have been so much nicer. Wire stripping has always been a hassle. I do not like losing a strand or two of stranded wire. Apparently this tool does not damage the wire. Automatic wire strippers have existed for a long time. We had a pair at work. Shurly you can find images on Google... Only problem with them was: 1) Price. They charged "industrial" prices for them. I expected this one to cost a lot more. 2) Probably didn't work quite as well as the one you got. I played with ours at work, but felt no attraction to them. They were a novelty item in the tool chest. I did most of my work with this style. http://www.officedepot.com/a/product...Stripper-Wire/ Everyone has probably seen this kind, and these suck. It takes a good deal of practice to keep the wire nicking to a minimum. I used these for some number of years as a hobbyist, before I got my first T-5 style stripper. The non-automated ones still take practice, but the ones in the following picture make the practice brutal. I expect a lot of people, this is all they had on sale at the hardware store. http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/ma...9937p.html#srp And there are all sorts of insulation types, each with their own foibles. Not every wire stripping job is easy. I have very good coordination, as in mouse-slinging multiplayer gaming and juggling. But I find the large majority of wire stripping to be a pain in the rear. Besides the issues you mention, one obvious problem with the typical wire strippers you point to is the fact the cutting edges are angled in opposite directions. When you are pulling to remove the insulation, one side of the cutter is digging into the wire and the other side is moving away from the wire. But I doubt the junk can be made any other way. Otherwise it will not cut into the insulation. Check out some of the videos on YouTube. https://youtu.be/ZytYjq9X78A?t=204 As mentioned in my other reply, the auto-stripper is not cutting the insulation. It is pinching the insulation between the top and bottom teeth in the right-side jaws and then TEARING the insulation away. That is the same technique used with the cutters in a needle nose pliers. You do NOT cut the insulation when using the cutter blades. You PINCH the insulation. Whether you use the needle nose or auto-stripper, you are tearing the insulation. Cutting into it means a [high] potential for nicking the wires which makes them break when flexed or worse cutting some strands of the twisted wire. This is the same way you do coax: you SCORE (not cut through) the outer sheath to tear it away to expose the braided ground shield. Cutting into insulation should only be done by specialized stripper designed for specific cabling because those tools know just how far to cut into the insulation. The auto-stripper affords consistent operation versus someone that rarely does any wiring; however, experienced electricians have done this so often that it has become muscle memory, like you learning to juggle so you eventually aren't a clumsy juggler dropping everything. You'll see the same difference between someone that has done lots of soldering (wires, PCB, or plumbing) versus a one-time DIYer. Someone might come up with a tool that cuts copper pipe, unburrs the end, sands the end to remove oxide, and pre-applies rosin but I doubt many plumbers are going to bother toting it around. More likely that tool, if it exists, in the shop where lots of baseboard radiators or other repetitive construction were applied. I've yet to see an electrician toting around an auto-stripper. It could speed up their work but they're pretty pharking quick already. Seems more like a tool to keep in the shop for repetitive work on numerous wiring jobs or something a hobbyist would like to compensate for their lack of expertise. The tool has its place and this one is cheap; however, auto-strippers aren't new and I've yet to see an electrician packing one in his toolbox but I have seen them toting specialized crimpers, like for RJ-45/11 jacks or for coax connectors. If you're looking for something handy to fill up your toolbox, yep, this tool is one. My toolboxes are so full that putting in more gadgets means having to get a bigger toolbox. The older I get, the harder it gets to lug around a bigger toolbox which still ends up packed tight with tools and parts. The more space in a toolbox, the more gets packed into it and the heavier it gets. If I was planning on doing a big wiring job, like replacing the old circuit breaker box that has Franklin breakers (no longer available since they went out of business around 40 years ago) and adding more circuits so the breakers snap off less, especially for the garage, yeah, I'd get one of these during the planning stage. For putting in a replacement wall switch, nah, I wouldn't bother buying one of these. For building my own PCs (to keep this discussion on-topic here), I definitely wouldn't need this tool. It's a good tool. It employs the same technique that I use with a needle nose pliers to tear away the insulation (not cut through it). I have an old auto-stripper but it does cut into the insulation so I have to be careful in which recess the wire is placed (I start oversized and reduce if needed). At first, I thought it was a neat gadget. Now it just sits and is rarely used in my electrical toolbox. |
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