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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
"Buffalo" wrote in message . .. Adam wrote: My current setup is as follows ... Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43 AMD Athlon XP 1600+ AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro PCI Slot 1: ----- PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1 PCI Slot 4: USB Card PCI Slot 5: ----- Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition The problem started creeping up last night ... - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen - the system freezes when I move the mouse - something was mildly burning / overheating I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning. It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again. On one reboot, I got the following message ... "You have not connected the power extension cable to your Radeon 9800 video card Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for proper hardware installation !!!" After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting, the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that the fan on the video card was not spinning. So, my guess is that the video card is overheating. Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas? Also, I now get the following "warning" message ... "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly. The ATI Control Panel will now exit." And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480 It will not take any other resolution. Look at : http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/...r_install.html Thanks for the link. Just what I need to clarify my understanding about these VGA coolers. |
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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
"Adam" wrote in message t... My current setup is as follows ... Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43 AMD Athlon XP 1600+ AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro PCI Slot 1: ----- PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1 PCI Slot 4: USB Card PCI Slot 5: ----- Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition The problem started creeping up last night ... - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen - the system freezes when I move the mouse - something was mildly burning / overheating I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning. It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again. On one reboot, I got the following message ... "You have not connected the power extension cable to your Radeon 9800 video card Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for proper hardware installation !!!" After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting, the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that the fan on the video card was not spinning. So, my guess is that the video card is overheating. Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas? Also, I now get the following "warning" message ... "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly. The ATI Control Panel will now exit." And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480 It will not take any other resolution. One word........HEAT |
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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
"Venom" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: My current setup is as follows ... Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43 AMD Athlon XP 1600+ AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro PCI Slot 1: ----- PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1 PCI Slot 4: USB Card PCI Slot 5: ----- Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition I use 3 X 9800 Pro and 1 x 9800XT video cards with no problems. All computers are running XP Pro. I have had no problems with the stock coolers on these cards although I have read where it might be better to fit bigger aftermarket coolers. As I type this my 9800XT is running at 35 degrees C. (Everest) so I have left the stock cooler alone untill such times as I need to replace a fan. I did have trouble once with the molex connector on one of the cards. I guess I must not have pressed the PSU connector in hard enough and that caused a bad connection to the card blackening one of the pins. I cleaned the pin and socket and all is well again. the problems I was having at that time sounded like the problems you are having. You could also try getting a friend to run your card in his computer just to see how it goes. Good info. Thanks! I'll have to double check the power (molex?) connector on the card again. Might be hard to find another system with an AGP slot since AGP has pretty much been replaced. But, I'll keep it in mind. |
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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
"Steph" wrote in message news:HUuzi.87675$rX4.70649@pd7urf2no... "Adam" wrote in message t... My current setup is as follows ... Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43 AMD Athlon XP 1600+ AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro PCI Slot 1: ----- PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1 PCI Slot 4: USB Card PCI Slot 5: ----- Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition The problem started creeping up last night ... - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen - the system freezes when I move the mouse - something was mildly burning / overheating I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning. It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again. On one reboot, I got the following message ... "You have not connected the power extension cable to your Radeon 9800 video card Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for proper hardware installation !!!" After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting, the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that the fan on the video card was not spinning. So, my guess is that the video card is overheating. Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas? Also, I now get the following "warning" message ... "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly. The ATI Control Panel will now exit." And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480 It will not take any other resolution. One word........HEAT That's about as concise and precise as it gets. ;o) |
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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
"Roy Coorne" wrote in message ... Ron Marraccini wrote: www.arctic-cooling.com will have an add on cooler for you card. When my Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB AGP started to produce loud noise, I replaced the fan by an "Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer 1 (Rev.2)". Roy How does this model compare to the Accelero S2? |
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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
In article , "Adam" wrote:
"RobV" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: "RobV" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: My current setup is as follows ... Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43 AMD Athlon XP 1600+ AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro PCI Slot 1: ----- PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1 PCI Slot 4: USB Card PCI Slot 5: ----- Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition The problem started creeping up last night ... - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen - the system freezes when I move the mouse - something was mildly burning / overheating I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning. It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again. On one reboot, I got the following message ... "You have not connected the power extension cable to your Radeon 9800 video card Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for proper hardware installation !!!" After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting, the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that the fan on the video card was not spinning. So, my guess is that the video card is overheating. Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas? Also, I now get the following "warning" message ... "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly. The ATI Control Panel will now exit." And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480 It will not take any other resolution. Sounds like the card went bad. However, it can't hurt to uninstall, then install the latest drivers for the card (if it lets you get that far). Good idea ... I'll uninstall and reinstall. I still don't have a good feeling about that fan not spinning though. What's the best way to cool that Radeon chip? Add a card (in Slot 1) with a fan blowing at the AGP video card? Is there such a card? Or, am I getting imaginative? ;o) As Ron mentioned, yes there is a fan mounted on a PCI slot so you blow cool air on the card. For now, leave the side off the computer and get a small (or large) fan blowing cool air into the computer. That will help determine if it's heat related alone, and not a card failure also. Thanks for the info. I checked with the seller and found out that this video card is still under warranty since I only purchased it around Thanksgiving 2006. And, I can either send it back to the seller or ATI. Is it better to send it directly to ATI? It took me about 3 weeks to get it to ATI and back. They changed their shipping address and never bothered to change the info on their online RMA info. So UPS had to take an extra 5 days to forward it from one address in New York all the way up to some drop ship place in Niagra Falls area. Then 3 weeks later i get a replacement card, not the same one but same model shipped from some warehouse in texas. Still happy since this was and extra AGP card for use in a beater gaming system for the kids but the card that was sent back looks in fine, new, clean condition I haven't had a cover on my system for a long time. I don't have any (big / small) fans around. So, I used Dust Off to blow cool air directly on the chip. It helped but only briefly. The system is currently off. I will let it cool before powering it up again. It might work for a minute. |
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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
In article , "Adam" wrote:
"RobV" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: "RobV" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: My current setup is as follows ... Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43 AMD Athlon XP 1600+ AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro PCI Slot 1: ----- PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1 PCI Slot 4: USB Card PCI Slot 5: ----- Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition The problem started creeping up last night ... - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen - the system freezes when I move the mouse - something was mildly burning / overheating I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning. It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again. On one reboot, I got the following message ... "You have not connected the power extension cable to your Radeon 9800 video card Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for proper hardware installation !!!" After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting, the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that the fan on the video card was not spinning. So, my guess is that the video card is overheating. Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas? Also, I now get the following "warning" message ... "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly. The ATI Control Panel will now exit." And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480 It will not take any other resolution. Sounds like the card went bad. However, it can't hurt to uninstall, then install the latest drivers for the card (if it lets you get that far). Good idea ... I'll uninstall and reinstall. I still don't have a good feeling about that fan not spinning though. What's the best way to cool that Radeon chip? Add a card (in Slot 1) with a fan blowing at the AGP video card? Is there such a card? Or, am I getting imaginative? ;o) As Ron mentioned, yes there is a fan mounted on a PCI slot so you blow cool air on the card. For now, leave the side off the computer and get a small (or large) fan blowing cool air into the computer. That will help determine if it's heat related alone, and not a card failure also. Thanks for the info. I checked with the seller and found out that this video card is still under warranty since I only purchased it around Thanksgiving 2006. And, I can either send it back to the seller or ATI. Is it better to send it directly to ATI? I haven't had a cover on my system for a long time. I don't have any (big / small) fans around. So, I used Dust Off to blow cool air directly on the chip. It helped but only briefly. The system is currently off. I will let it cool before powering it up again. It might work for a minute. You did conect the cable from the power supply disnt you? I cant remember if you said you did. |
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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
In article , "Adam" wrote:
"rms" wrote in message t... I haven't had a cover on my system for a long time. I don't have any (big / small) fans around. So, I used Dust Off to blow cool air directly on the chip. It helped but only briefly. The system is currently off. I will let it cool before powering it up again. It might work for a minute. Most likely the fan on the card has failed. If the card was not covered by warranty I'd say take it off and clean and lube it with Inox. But just send it in. rms Another good suggestion to try. Thanks! I found a place (not online) that has the PCI VGA coolers in stock. Since I'm paranoid about sending the video card away and not getting it back, I decided to try-out some work-arounds and maybe learn some things. Dont be paranoid, if its under warranty by all means get that thing replaced. If you even so much as remove that stock fan you will void your warranty. that card has a 3 year warranty. If its a built by ATI card, you will get it back. |
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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
In article , "Adam" wrote:
"Adam" wrote in message ... "RobV" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: "RobV" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: My current setup is as follows ... Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43 AMD Athlon XP 1600+ AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro PCI Slot 1: ----- PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1 PCI Slot 4: USB Card PCI Slot 5: ----- Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition The problem started creeping up last night ... - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen - the system freezes when I move the mouse - something was mildly burning / overheating I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning. It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again. On one reboot, I got the following message ... "You have not connected the power extension cable to your Radeon 9800 video card Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for proper hardware installation !!!" After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting, the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that the fan on the video card was not spinning. So, my guess is that the video card is overheating. Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas? Also, I now get the following "warning" message ... "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly. The ATI Control Panel will now exit." And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480 It will not take any other resolution. Sounds like the card went bad. However, it can't hurt to uninstall, then install the latest drivers for the card (if it lets you get that far). Good idea ... I'll uninstall and reinstall. I still don't have a good feeling about that fan not spinning though. What's the best way to cool that Radeon chip? Add a card (in Slot 1) with a fan blowing at the AGP video card? Is there such a card? Or, am I getting imaginative? ;o) As Ron mentioned, yes there is a fan mounted on a PCI slot so you blow cool air on the card. For now, leave the side off the computer and get a small (or large) fan blowing cool air into the computer. That will help determine if it's heat related alone, and not a card failure also. Thanks for the info. I checked with the seller and found out that this video card is still under warranty since I only purchased it around Thanksgiving 2006. And, I can either send it back to the seller or ATI. Is it better to send it directly to ATI? I haven't had a cover on my system for a long time. I don't have any (big / small) fans around. So, I used Dust Off to blow cool air directly on the chip. It helped but only briefly. The system is currently off. I will let it cool before powering it up again. It might work for a minute. Well, I finally powered up the system. As expected, it worked fine for a few minutes. I was even able to set the resolution back to the way it was, nice and high. So now, I strongly believe that the problem is due to insufficient cooling. If I send the video card back to ATI, they'll likely replace the fan, which might go bad in another 6-8 months and I'm back to square one. Hmmm ... what to do ... can't wait to get my hands on that PCI VGA cooler now. They wont replace the fan, they will replace the entire card. When you do the rma, only send the card, no cables etc.... |
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problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help
In article , "Adam" wrote:
"Adam" wrote in message ... "RobV" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: "RobV" wrote in message ... Adam wrote: My current setup is as follows ... Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43 AMD Athlon XP 1600+ AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro PCI Slot 1: ----- PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1 PCI Slot 4: USB Card PCI Slot 5: ----- Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition The problem started creeping up last night ... - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen - the system freezes when I move the mouse - something was mildly burning / overheating I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this morning. It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again. On one reboot, I got the following message ... "You have not connected the power extension cable to your Radeon 9800 video card Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for proper hardware installation !!!" After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting, the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that the fan on the video card was not spinning. So, my guess is that the video card is overheating. Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas? Also, I now get the following "warning" message ... "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working properly. The ATI Control Panel will now exit." And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480 It will not take any other resolution. Sounds like the card went bad. However, it can't hurt to uninstall, then install the latest drivers for the card (if it lets you get that far). Good idea ... I'll uninstall and reinstall. I still don't have a good feeling about that fan not spinning though. What's the best way to cool that Radeon chip? Add a card (in Slot 1) with a fan blowing at the AGP video card? Is there such a card? Or, am I getting imaginative? ;o) As Ron mentioned, yes there is a fan mounted on a PCI slot so you blow cool air on the card. For now, leave the side off the computer and get a small (or large) fan blowing cool air into the computer. That will help determine if it's heat related alone, and not a card failure also. Thanks for the info. I checked with the seller and found out that this video card is still under warranty since I only purchased it around Thanksgiving 2006. And, I can either send it back to the seller or ATI. Is it better to send it directly to ATI? I haven't had a cover on my system for a long time. I don't have any (big / small) fans around. So, I used Dust Off to blow cool air directly on the chip. It helped but only briefly. The system is currently off. I will let it cool before powering it up again. It might work for a minute. Well, I finally powered up the system. As expected, it worked fine for a few minutes. I was even able to set the resolution back to the way it was, nice and high. So now, I strongly believe that the problem is due to insufficient cooling. If I send the video card back to ATI, they'll likely replace the fan, which might go bad in another 6-8 months and I'm back to square one. Hmmm ... what to do ... can't wait to get my hands on that PCI VGA cooler now. Those little card slot coolers will not solve the issue. |
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