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Old January 3rd 04, 10:15 AM
Nehmo Sergheyev
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Default How Move OS XP from Old to New HD?

Windows XP Home (SP1)

I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using NTFS,
which had the OS and everything else on it.

I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model 6Y080P0 ,which
has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the back) as a slave.
It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and Online using NTFS. I
named it Grape (E. I'm using fruit names nowadays.

Since the new drive is faster than the old, I want to move the OS to it.
So how do I go about doing that?

The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor guy on the phone
said I could use that to move the OS, but I'm not clear how. It has a
copy function, but then how do I get the computer to know the OS is now
on E instead of C?

I didn't use MaxBlast to set up the drive. I just use Computer
Management.

So how do I move the OS from the old HD to the new?


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Old January 3rd 04, 11:26 AM
Rod Speed
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Nehmo Sergheyev wrote in message
...

Windows XP Home (SP1)


I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using
NTFS, which had the OS and everything else on it.


I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model 6Y080P0,
which has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the back)
as a slave. It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and Online
using NTFS.


I named it Grape (E. I'm using fruit names nowadays.


Be careful, it might sue you for cruel and unusual punishment.

Since the new drive is faster than the old, I want to move the OS to it.
So how do I go about doing that?


The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor
guy on the phone said I could use that to move the OS, but
I'm not clear how. It has a copy function, but then how do I
get the computer to know the OS is now on E instead of C?


Its better to just copy it from the original drive to the new
one and boot with just the new one plugged in on the first
boot after the copy. XP will then see that as the C drive.

You can connect the original drive again after thats been done.

I didn't use MaxBlast to set up the drive.
I just use Computer Management.


I havent tried doing the copy with MaxBlast.

I have done it with both ghost and drive image.

There is also now www.xxclone.com but I havent tried that either.

So how do I move the OS from the old HD to the new?


See above. The crucial bit is to only have the new
drive plugged in on the first boot after the copy.


  #3  
Old January 3rd 04, 11:52 AM
Nehmo Sergheyev
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- Nehmo -
Windows XP Home (SP1)


I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using
NTFS, which had the OS and everything else on it.


I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model 6Y080P0,
which has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the back)
as a slave. It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and Online
using NTFS.


The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor
guy on the phone said I could use that to move the OS, but
I'm not clear how. It has a copy function, but then how do I
get the computer to know the OS is now on E instead of C?


- Rod Speed -
Its better to just copy it from the original drive to the new
one and boot with just the new one plugged in on the first
boot after the copy. XP will then see that as the C drive.

You can connect the original drive again after thats been done.


I havent tried doing the copy with MaxBlast.
I have done it with both ghost and drive image.

There is also now www.xxclone.com but I havent tried that either.
.The crucial bit is to only have the new
drive plugged in on the first boot after the copy.


- Nehmo -
Okay, I'm going to try it. Actually, I already saw you give similar
advice to a similar question, but I wanted some assurance with my
particular circumstances. .



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  #4  
Old January 3rd 04, 09:02 PM
Nehmo Sergheyev
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Windows XP Home (SP1)
I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using
NTFS, which had the OS and everything else on it.


I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model 6Y080P0,
which has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the back)
as a slave. It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and Online
using NTFS.


The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor
guy on the phone said I could use that to move the OS, but
I'm not clear how. It has a copy function, but then how do I
get the computer to know the OS is now on E instead of C?


- Rod Speed -
Its better to just copy it from the original drive to the new
one and boot with just the new one plugged in on the first
boot after the copy. XP will then see that as the C drive.

You can connect the original drive again after thats been done.


I havent tried doing the copy with MaxBlast.
I have done it with both ghost and drive image.

There is also now www.xxclone.com but I havent tried that either.
.The crucial bit is to only have the new
drive plugged in on the first boot after the copy.


- Nehmo -
Okay, I'm going to try it


- Nehmo -
It didn't work.
MaxBlast seemed to copy all (except a few unnecessary) files. I shut
down unplugged the old drive Restarted a message displayed:
Operating System Not Found

I shut down re-plugged in the old drive restarted like normal the
old drive is still the C drive.



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Old January 3rd 04, 11:54 PM
Rod Speed
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"Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message ...
Windows XP Home (SP1)
I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using
NTFS, which had the OS and everything else on it.


I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model 6Y080P0,
which has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the back)
as a slave. It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and Online
using NTFS.


The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor
guy on the phone said I could use that to move the OS, but
I'm not clear how. It has a copy function, but then how do I
get the computer to know the OS is now on E instead of C?


- Rod Speed -
Its better to just copy it from the original drive to the new
one and boot with just the new one plugged in on the first
boot after the copy. XP will then see that as the C drive.

You can connect the original drive again after thats been done.


I havent tried doing the copy with MaxBlast.
I have done it with both ghost and drive image.

There is also now www.xxclone.com but I havent tried that either.
.The crucial bit is to only have the new
drive plugged in on the first boot after the copy.


- Nehmo -
Okay, I'm going to try it


- Nehmo -
It didn't work.
MaxBlast seemed to copy all (except a few unnecessary) files. I shut
down unplugged the old drive Restarted a message displayed:
Operating System Not Found


Works fine with drive image and ghost.

I shut down re-plugged in the old drive restarted like normal the
old drive is still the C drive.


Yeah, thats to be expected. You only get a mess when XP
manages to boot off the copy and gets completely confused by
the old drive being visible as well on the first boot after the copy.


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Old January 4th 04, 02:06 AM
Nehmo Sergheyev
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Windows XP Home (SP1)
I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using
NTFS, which had the OS and everything else on it.
I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model

6Y080P0,
which has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the

back)
as a slave. It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and

Online
using NTFS.
The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor
guy on the phone said I could use that to move the OS, but
I'm not clear how. It has a copy function, but then how do I
get the computer to know the OS is now on E instead of C?


- Rod Speed -
Its better to just copy it from the original drive to the new
one and boot with just the new one plugged in on the first
boot after the copy. XP will then see that as the C drive.


You can connect the original drive again after thats been done.

I havent tried doing the copy with MaxBlast.
I have done it with both ghost and drive image.


There is also now www.xxclone.com but I havent tried that

either.
.The crucial bit is to only have the new
drive plugged in on the first boot after the copy.


- Nehmo -
Okay, I'm going to try it

- Nehmo -
It didn't work.
MaxBlast seemed to copy all (except a few unnecessary) files. I shut
down unplugged the old drive Restarted a message displayed:
Operating System Not Found


- Rod Speed -
Works fine with drive image and ghost.


- Nehmo -
I suspect the problem is not with the copy program. MaxBlast seemed to
do the job, and I don't see copying as an overly complicated operation.
I think maybe I should reset the jumpers and follow the rest of the
instructions in an article I found on the Maxtor site. I copied article
in its entirety under the link below, but the first paragraph of it
might be relevant since I currently have the new drive jumper-configured
as slave:

"1. Install the new drive as a slave to the Master boot drive.
If the new drive is as a slave on the same cable as the Master boot
drive then you should set both drives' jumpers to Cable Select."

From that paragraph, it appears a drive can be a slave without being
configured as a slave with the jumpers. It apparently directs you to
configure both drives, new and old, as Cable Select.

Further on in the Answer, the directions are to.
"2. Confirm that the new hard drive is installed and detected by the
system BIOS"

I'm not sure how to do that. I understand the system BIOS is something
that comes up when you start, but I'm not clear how to instruct it to do
anything.

I also don't understand what they mean by
"3. Boot your system from the MaxBlaxt 3 CD."
How would I do that?

I notice in 10, the directions neglect to tell you to connect the old
drive to anything, but I believe they mean for you to connect the gray
(slave position) connector to it.

After reading these instructions, I'm thinking maybe I can change the
jumpers on both old and new drives to Cable Select turn off computer
change the positions of the drives on the ribbon (IDE interface cable)
to new HD on black as master and old HD on grey as slave then restart.
Do you think trying this procedure is dangerous in any way?



BTW, Ron, I notice you post a lot on the subject of HDs. Do you do
something with HDs for a living?

http://www.ericseven.com?id=1262 quote
This article explains how to copy the operating system from an existing
boot drive to a new drive using MaxBlast 3

Answer:
1. Install the new drive as a slave to the Master boot drive.
If the new drive is as a slave on the same cable as the Master boot
drive then you should set both drives' jumpers to Cable Select.

If you are using an Ultra ATA PCI adapter please make sure that both
hard drives are connected to the adapter card.

2. Confirm that the new hard drive is installed and detected by the
system BIOS.
Adding a new drive may require BIOS configuration, refer to your system
manual for BIOS settings to Auto-detect the new drive.

The system BIOS will not detect drives that are connected to an Ultra
ATA PCI card. The Ultra ATA PCI card uses its own BIOS and should
display the drives that are connected to it during boot.

3. Boot your system from the MaxBlast 3 CD or floppy.
You may need to change your BIOS settings to boot to the CD or floppy.

4. If the drive is not formatted or partitioned Maxblast 3 will notify
you that it has found a new hard drive.
Click yes to continue.

5. Follow the on-screen prompts to step through the installation
process.

6. Stop at "Choose An Installation Method"
Select the "Install drive as a new boot drive" option. This procedure
prompts the copy process.

7. Select "Advanced Installation" Method.
Here you can specify the partition size.

8. Follow the on-screen prompts to step through the installation
process.

9. Shutdown the computer.
When MaxBlast 3 is finished copying the data to your new boot drive,
remove any CDs or floppies, and perform a normal shutdown. (Power Off)

10. Unplug the ATA cable from both the new and old drives, then
re-connect the new drive as Primary Master.

Cable Note: The black connector is always master.
The grey connector is always slave.
The blue connector always connects to motherboard
or add-in UDMA controller.

11. Power the system on.
At the Windows desktop, double click the My Computer icon. The newly
installed boot drive will appear as drive letter C.

12. The old hard drive can now be used for additional storage. /quote


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Old January 3rd 04, 02:29 PM
tomcas
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...

Nehmo Sergheyev wrote in message
...

Windows XP Home (SP1)


I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using
NTFS, which had the OS and everything else on it.


I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model 6Y080P0,
which has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the back)
as a slave. It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and Online
using NTFS.


I named it Grape (E. I'm using fruit names nowadays.


Be careful, it might sue you for cruel and unusual punishment.

Since the new drive is faster than the old, I want to move the OS to it.
So how do I go about doing that?


The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor
guy on the phone said I could use that to move the OS, but
I'm not clear how. It has a copy function, but then how do I
get the computer to know the OS is now on E instead of C?


Its better to just copy it from the original drive to the new
one and boot with just the new one plugged in on the first
boot after the copy. XP will then see that as the C drive.


Are you sure you can do this? I don't know about XP but with 2K certain
critical files are locked and will not copy (unlike win 98) . I understand
Xcopy is the way to get around this but there may be problems with long file
names.
http://www.vtwebwizard.com/tips/disk_repair.php
http://www.dansdata.com/sbs27.htm

You can connect the original drive again after thats been done.

I didn't use MaxBlast to set up the drive.
I just use Computer Management.


I havent tried doing the copy with MaxBlast.

I have done it with both ghost and drive image.

There is also now www.xxclone.com but I havent tried that either.

So how do I move the OS from the old HD to the new?


See above. The crucial bit is to only have the new
drive plugged in on the first boot after the copy.




  #8  
Old January 3rd 04, 07:43 PM
Rod Speed
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tomcas wrote in
message t...
Rod Speed wrote
Nehmo Sergheyev wrote


Windows XP Home (SP1)


I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using
NTFS, which had the OS and everything else on it.


I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model 6Y080P0,
which has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the back)
as a slave. It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and Online
using NTFS.


I named it Grape (E. I'm using fruit names nowadays.


Be careful, it might sue you for cruel and unusual punishment.

Since the new drive is faster than the old, I want to move the OS to it.
So how do I go about doing that?


The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor
guy on the phone said I could use that to move the OS, but
I'm not clear how. It has a copy function, but then how do I
get the computer to know the OS is now on E instead of C?


Its better to just copy it from the original drive to the new
one and boot with just the new one plugged in on the first
boot after the copy. XP will then see that as the C drive.


Are you sure you can do this?


Yep, done it and quite a few have said they have done it successfully too.

I don't know about XP but with 2K certain critical
files are locked and will not copy (unlike win 98) .


You dont do the copy at the XP level, you
use ghost or drive image at the dos level.

I understand Xcopy is the way to get around this
but there may be problems with long file names.


Yep, well known problem.

http://www.vtwebwizard.com/tips/disk_repair.php
http://www.dansdata.com/sbs27.htm


You can connect the original drive again after thats been done.

I didn't use MaxBlast to set up the drive.
I just use Computer Management.


I havent tried doing the copy with MaxBlast.

I have done it with both ghost and drive image.

There is also now www.xxclone.com but I havent tried that either.

So how do I move the OS from the old HD to the new?


See above. The crucial bit is to only have the new
drive plugged in on the first boot after the copy.



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Old January 3rd 04, 02:34 PM
tomcas
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"Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message
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Windows XP Home (SP1)

I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using NTFS,
which had the OS and everything else on it.

I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model 6Y080P0 ,which
has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the back) as a slave.
It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and Online using NTFS. I
named it Grape (E. I'm using fruit names nowadays.

Since the new drive is faster than the old, I want to move the OS to it.
So how do I go about doing that?

The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor guy on the phone
said I could use that to move the OS, but I'm not clear how. It has a
copy function, but then how do I get the computer to know the OS is now
on E instead of C?


It will ask you.


I didn't use MaxBlast to set up the drive. I just use Computer
Management.

So how do I move the OS from the old HD to the new?

I'd use the maxblast. Read and print the readme file if you need to. Avoid
using thier formater and overlay if possible.



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Old January 3rd 04, 11:49 PM
Nehmo Sergheyev
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- Nehmo -
Windows XP Home (SP1)
I originally had and still have a 15 GB HD, using NTFS,
which had the OS and everything else on it.

I just installed a Maxtor 80 GB DiamondMax Plus 9 Model 6Y080P0

,which
has a 5 MB Buffer, configured (with the jumpers on the back) as a

slave.
It shows up Computer Management as Healthy and Online using NTFS. I
named it Grape (E. I'm using fruit names nowadays.

Since the new drive is faster than the old, I want to move the OS to

it.
So how do I go about doing that?

The new drive came with the MaxBlast 3 app. The Maxtor guy on the

phone
said I could use that to move the OS, but I'm not clear how. It has

a
copy function, but then how do I get the computer to know the OS is

now
on E instead of C?


- tomcas -
It will ask you.


- Nehmo -
It didn't. I already described what happened in another post in this
thread, but everybody doesn't read every post, and I really want to get
this question answered, so here it is again:

I shut down unplugged the ribbon (IDE interface cable) from the old
drive restarted after the usual box that appeared that lists some
things about the computer (what is this box called, incidentally?) a
message appeared: No Operating System Found. (I'm not sure if that was
the exact wording.)

- Nehmo -
I didn't use MaxBlast to set up the drive. I just use Computer
Management.
So how do I move the OS from the old HD to the new?


- tomcas -
I'd use the maxblast. Read and print the readme file if you need to.

Avoid
using thier formater and overlay if possible.


- Nehmo -
There's no readme file, but after you choose a model number, it prepares
detailed.htm , titled MaxBlast 3 Custom Installation Manual [1]. This
doesn't cover my problem. There is also the help file. And in there is
this:

"When copying from partition to partition, if the destination partition
is a primary partition, Drive-To-Drive copy will make the partition
bootable. This allows you to migrate your operating system to a new
drive even if the drive was not partitioned using MaxBlast 3."
I didn't need to use the formatter or overlay. Actually, I didn't see
those option. Anyway I erlier used the "quick format" form XP's Computer
Management when I installed the new drive.

[1] I noticed that one of the image files detailed.htm uses is a 468 KB
bitmap, newdrive.bmp . This easily could have been a jpg or a gif, using
much less space.


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