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"JF" wrote in message
news5kQa.53806$N7.4815@sccrnsc03... AGP data transfers are also piplined making them more efficient, and it doesn't have to share the bus with multiple devices. 12x next? No. Actually late this year or early 2004, PCI-Express will begin being introduced as the new bus standard. It has better bandwidth than AGP, and is scaleable for the future. It also uses a much lower pin count, and therefore will change our ideas about pc case design. PCI-Express is cool... Of course, it totally makes everything obsolete again... Sigh... |
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Don't buy anything with intergrated video if it doesn't have an AGP slot
to stick a better video card into Danny Deger wrote: I am seriously thinking about buying a Sony desktop from Tiger Direct for $899. It is marketed as an entry video machine. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ls.asp?sku=S16 7-3152%20P I couldn't come close to buying the components and putting a machine together for this price. But, I am concern about its video "card" which is: "64MB Intel 845G Integrated Graphics [shared]" and its DVD-RW burner. First, it doesn't have a DVI output. I have a DVI monitor and a DVI cable that I plan to use. If I go to analog VGA, will I loose much? Second, is the built in "shared" video OK in the long run. I have been told to watch for built in video, it typically doesn't have anywhere close to the power of a dedicated card. Third, the machine doesn't have an AGP slot for a video card is I don't like the lack of DVI and current video performance. It only has PCI slots. I current have a Radeon 7000 PCI on an older machine, that works OK. But I don't do video processing and games? Will PCI only video card be a problem for video and games? I don't plan on doing sophisticated video processing. Taking my digital camcorder video to a DVD is about all I need to do. I don't need superb video performance, but don't want to be stuck with a dog if PCI is a dog. Fourth, I have an Emerson DVD player. Is there anyway to check compatibility of the DVD writer to my player (the computer comes with a DVD-RW, which isn't as good as DVD+RW for compatibility). Compatibility with DVD players is important to me, but how can I spec a computer to burn compatible DVDs? Should I insist on DVD+RW? Danny Deger |
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Shadow wrote: Don't buy anything with intergrated video if it doesn't have an AGP slot to stick a better video card into I agree with Shadow. PCI graphics are the pits. Avoid that Sony machine like the plague. My experience with embedded video has been even when the board did have AGP, getting an add-in AGP card to work was very problematic. We ended up replacing the motherboard. This was a couple of years ago, but the experience was so bad that I'd never even consider a motherboard with embedded video controller today. If you want a good pre-built PC, take a look at a Dell Dimension 8300. For a little over a hundred bucks more, you'll see that the standard default configuration is a lot better than the Sony you were looking at - it comes with an Nvidia AGP card, dual channel DDR, 800 MHz FSB, supports hyperthreading processors, an 80 GB hard drive... By the way, the graphics card that comes stock in the Dimension 8300 (FX 5200) has support for two monitors. Believe me, editing video with two monitors is almost a necessity. Even if you don't plan to use two monitors right now, it's nice to know the capability is there. http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=19&l=en&s=dhs That hardware should work well in Linux too, should you decide to explore the future of computing. Oh, and no, I don't have any connection with Dell, I prefer to build my own systems, but I've seen a lot of Dell's and they hold up well. They seem to be pretty decent value for the money. Good luck, --Keith Danny Deger wrote: I am seriously thinking about buying a Sony desktop from Tiger Direct for $899. It is marketed as an entry video machine. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ls.asp?sku=S16 7-3152%20P I couldn't come close to buying the components and putting a machine together for this price. But, I am concern about its video "card" which is: "64MB Intel 845G Integrated Graphics [shared]" and its DVD-RW burner. First, it doesn't have a DVI output. I have a DVI monitor and a DVI cable that I plan to use. If I go to analog VGA, will I loose much? Second, is the built in "shared" video OK in the long run. I have been told to watch for built in video, it typically doesn't have anywhere close to the power of a dedicated card. Third, the machine doesn't have an AGP slot for a video card is I don't like the lack of DVI and current video performance. It only has PCI slots. I current have a Radeon 7000 PCI on an older machine, that works OK. But I don't do video processing and games? Will PCI only video card be a problem for video and games? I don't plan on doing sophisticated video processing. Taking my digital camcorder video to a DVD is about all I need to do. I don't need superb video performance, but don't want to be stuck with a dog if PCI is a dog. Fourth, I have an Emerson DVD player. Is there anyway to check compatibility of the DVD writer to my player (the computer comes with a DVD-RW, which isn't as good as DVD+RW for compatibility). Compatibility with DVD players is important to me, but how can I spec a computer to burn compatible DVDs? Should I insist on DVD+RW? Danny Deger |
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Keith Clark wrote: Shadow wrote: Don't buy anything with intergrated video if it doesn't have an AGP slot to stick a better video card into I agree with Shadow. PCI graphics are the pits. Avoid that Sony machine like the plague. My experience with embedded video has been even when the board did have AGP, getting an add-in AGP card to work was very problematic. We ended up replacing the motherboard. This was a couple of years ago, but the experience was so bad that I'd never even consider a motherboard with embedded video controller today. If you want a good pre-built PC, take a look at a Dell Dimension 8300. For a little over a hundred bucks more, you'll see that the standard default configuration is a lot better than the Sony you were looking at - it comes with an Nvidia AGP card, dual channel DDR, 800 MHz FSB, supports hyperthreading processors, an 80 GB hard drive... By the way, the graphics card that comes stock in the Dimension 8300 (FX 5200) has support for two monitors. Believe me, editing video with two monitors is almost a necessity. Even if you don't plan to use two monitors right now, it's nice to know the capability is there. http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=19&l=en&s=dhs That hardware should work well in Linux too, should you decide to explore the future of computing. Oh, and no, I don't have any connection with Dell, I prefer to build my own systems, but I've seen a lot of Dell's and they hold up well. They seem to be pretty decent value for the money. Good luck, --Keith PS - the FX 5200 card in the Dell supports DVI monitors. Danny Deger wrote: I am seriously thinking about buying a Sony desktop from Tiger Direct for $899. It is marketed as an entry video machine. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ls.asp?sku=S16 7-3152%20P I couldn't come close to buying the components and putting a machine together for this price. But, I am concern about its video "card" which is: "64MB Intel 845G Integrated Graphics [shared]" and its DVD-RW burner. First, it doesn't have a DVI output. I have a DVI monitor and a DVI cable that I plan to use. If I go to analog VGA, will I loose much? Second, is the built in "shared" video OK in the long run. I have been told to watch for built in video, it typically doesn't have anywhere close to the power of a dedicated card. Third, the machine doesn't have an AGP slot for a video card is I don't like the lack of DVI and current video performance. It only has PCI slots. I current have a Radeon 7000 PCI on an older machine, that works OK. But I don't do video processing and games? Will PCI only video card be a problem for video and games? I don't plan on doing sophisticated video processing. Taking my digital camcorder video to a DVD is about all I need to do. I don't need superb video performance, but don't want to be stuck with a dog if PCI is a dog. Fourth, I have an Emerson DVD player. Is there anyway to check compatibility of the DVD writer to my player (the computer comes with a DVD-RW, which isn't as good as DVD+RW for compatibility). Compatibility with DVD players is important to me, but how can I spec a computer to burn compatible DVDs? Should I insist on DVD+RW? Danny Deger |
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