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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message
... Q. "How does MS justify that cost; maybe takes a quarter to make for them?" A. Microsoft spent billions of $$$ to develop Windows XP. The cost to manufacturer the CDs is irrelevant since they expect a return on their massive investment. Also, ongoing improvements to Windows XP, in the form of "Service Packs" and "hotfixes", are absorbed by Microsoft and are offered free to the consumer. Did we ask them to spend billions rewriting an OS (win2k) that didn't need it? Michael |
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Leythos wrote:
In article , says... Is it immoral to lie to a criminal, a conman, or to someone or something that lie to you first? While two wrongs don't equal a right, sometimes one needs to think outside of the box to protect themselves from being abused by disreputable devices of others. But, who is to say what is right and what is wrong - after all, the majority determine right/wrong in any society and that could mean what is right in one is wrong in another while being right in the other..... Kind of a catch-22 issue. I guess you could say that if you believe you are right then everyone else is wrong if they don't agree with you, and you would be right. "This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man." -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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On Wed, 11 May 2005 18:35:54 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
wrote: Q. "How does MS justify that cost; maybe takes a quarter to make for them?" A. Microsoft spent billions of $$$ to develop Windows XP. The cost to manufacturer the CDs is irrelevant since they expect a return on their massive investment. Also, ongoing improvements to Windows XP, in the form of "Service Packs" and "hotfixes", are absorbed by Microsoft and are offered free to the consumer. You must be joking. Cost is relative. |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 10:26:29 +1000, "Michael C"
wrote: "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message ... Q. "How does MS justify that cost; maybe takes a quarter to make for them?" A. Microsoft spent billions of $$$ to develop Windows XP. The cost to manufacturer the CDs is irrelevant since they expect a return on their massive investment. Also, ongoing improvements to Windows XP, in the form of "Service Packs" and "hotfixes", are absorbed by Microsoft and are offered free to the consumer. Did we ask them to spend billions rewriting an OS (win2k) that didn't need it? Michael They didn't "rewrite" it for XP per se. They tacked on a few new "features" and continued developing the OS as planned. The thing is that it WASN'T a "massive investment" to a company making so much profit and it's quite possible for MS to survive on their past profits without ever charging another penny for software. |
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kurttrail wrote:
Is it immoral to lie to a criminal, a conman, or to someone or something that lie to you first? I've said nothing about "morality." Please leave religion out of the discussion, which was about trustworthiness and integrity. While two wrongs don't equal a right, Correct. But you should have place a period where you used a comma. sometimes one needs to think outside of the box to protect themselves from being abused by disreputable devices of others. So it's your contention that "thinking outside the box" requires one to be dishonest? You must have a very limited imagination, if so. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH |
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"Leythos" wrote in message
... Either they lied or not, and either they are good to their word or not, and any other interpretation is a subjective measure of their integrity. Do you live in an imaginary world where everything is black and white? You can have degrees of honesty. Michael |
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kony wrote:
At this point you're making a giant leap. How many people do you know that reviewed and accepted the EULA before there was any penalty involved in declining it? By clicking the Agree button, these people have claimed to have they've read and understood the EULA, and agree to its terms. If they didn't, and then run afoul of those terms, they've no to blame but themselves. If they've lied about this, then no doubt they'll feel no hesitation about voiding the agreement. Is that EULA even stated on the outside of the packing? There is a statement on the outside packaging the use of the product is governed by a license agreement. If people still purchase the license without further investigation, they've obviously made their decision: to abide by the license, sight unseen. Myself and many others are aware of the need to review these EULAs, but the average OEM system purchaser- I highly doubt they agree to anything ahead of purchase time, except to pay X amount for Y system. Uniformed consumers have only themselves to blame. The information necessary to make an informed purchased decision is readily available to anyone with the initiative to seek it out. This indicates quite clearly that this person's given word, or signature on a contract, for that matter, cannot be trusted. When did they give their word or sign the EULA? The very first time they either installed the OS or booted a computer with it pre-installed. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH |
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In article ,
says... "Leythos" wrote in message ... Either they lied or not, and either they are good to their word or not, and any other interpretation is a subjective measure of their integrity. Do you live in an imaginary world where everything is black and white? You can have degrees of honesty. The response was directly applicable to the post that I was replying to. I try never to enter the Gray areas, if you can't make a factual statement without wavering, you should consider the statement more carefully. Good / Evil are subjective and can be the opposite depending on the person and society. Truth and lies are not subjective when you know the difference. -- -- remove 999 in order to email me |
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In article ,
says... Uniformed consumers have only themselves to blame. The information necessary to make an informed purchased decision is readily available to anyone with the initiative to seek it out. My point exactly - ignorance is no excuse. -- -- remove 999 in order to email me |
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