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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
On 04/01/12 13:39, Loony wrote:
Hello Experts :-) I have been looking for a paperless fax machine, to replace the garbage like ImpactColor something or other. Comments please :-) Had been around for a long time, it's called E-Mail, and the best ones are FREE !!!!!! |
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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
On 4/1/2012 3:09 PM, Robert Sudbury wrote:
On 2012-04-01 2:59 PM, James Silverton wrote: On 4/1/2012 2:49 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 4/1/2012 1:39 PM, Loony wrote: Hello Experts :-) I have been looking for a paperless fax machine, to replace the garbage like ImpactColor something or other. The prices seem to be dropping quickly. snip... Somebody still uses fax? What is a "paperless fax"; unless it might describe image file transmission? Thinking of efax.com for doing faxes through email. The method employed by efax was available to me more than 20 years ago but in those days my employer (the US Government) paid for the faxes. I know that some physician's offices and banks still seen enamored of fax machines but what's wrong with an attached file, especially since unlike efax, there is no cost involved? If security is a problem the e-mail could be digitally signed. -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not" in Reply To. |
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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
James Silverton wrote:
On 4/1/2012 2:59 PM, James Silverton wrote: On 4/1/2012 2:49 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 4/1/2012 1:39 PM, Loony wrote: Hello Experts :-) I have been looking for a paperless fax machine, to replace the garbage like ImpactColor something or other. The prices seem to be dropping quickly. snip... Somebody still uses fax? What is a "paperless fax"; unless it might describe image file transmission? May I add that my HP Scanjet, using the HP Solution Center software, will scan a document and automatically send it as a file attached to an e-mail. I suspect this must be as reliable as a fax. The little box is effectively a fax server, but for one computer. It has a USB interface, and enough memory inside the box for 2000 fax pages. You'd leave the box running at night, with computer off, to receive faxes (or send faxes) from memory. When the user eventually logs into the box (via USB) the next day, they use the bundled software to skim through the faxes received that night, to see if anything is worth printing off or keeping as a TIFF image. That sort of thing. The Mopier machines (print, scan, copy, fax) come with a memory function as well, and can perform the same fax server function. The difference would be, the Mopier uses the "razor blade sales model", meaning the machine is sold below cost, and relies on inkjet cartridge sales to make a profit. It is in the Mopier machine's best interest, to print every fax it receives. So when they provide a memory function in the Mopier, it's to hold faxes until you load paper in the tray. With some effort, you can probably preview the faxes stored in memory, before printing them. But it isn't in the Mopier manufacturer's best interest to make that easy to do. They want you to forget, and run off a tray of paper instead by accident. Inkjet manufacturers all have scams. Like the inkjet that frequently cleans the heads if you leave it powered, until it runs the tank dry :-) The manufacturer explains, that's to keep the head clean :-) Whereas the small dedicated box, isn't sold on the razor blade model. It doesn't have scan, copy, or print. And the remaining function, of handling faxes via it's memory, is the only function it's got. So from a user perspective, not as potentially wasteful. Paul |
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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
Just had my nephew ask me about these. He wondered WHY specs showed that it
needed a direct internet connection. I replied and will post here as an FYI: With an e-printer you can be in a coffee shop and print the file to your home printer. So it acts like a server - to get that file to print it needs to have a direct internet connection. It's not 'wireless in the house printer acting as a slave printer off a pc'. Theoretically, you could have no pc in the house and the printer would print. The printer itself gets an email address assigned to it when you register with HP. To print, you email the document to that email address - from anywhere. If powered off, when the printer turns on - it fetches its email - just like your pc works with your email. Kinda like a fax machine using email rather than telephone system - no cost to user to use it AND you only get printouts/email (theoretically) from people that know you - no faxes received from robodialers. https://h30495.www3.hp.com/help#eprint.ep-eprint-work Not worth paying extra for at home but HP might be bundling in its new printers and charging a few bucks extra. ( Like making CD players standard in all cars and adding $30 to price of all cars rather than a $175 option for some.) I'm not sure if there is/will be a charge to use it. In a few years, I can't imagine HP assigning 100 million emails address, the disk space to store the files, the responsibility of backing up the disks etc - for free. ============ "Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message ... Loony wrote: Hello Experts :-) I have been looking for a paperless fax machine, to replace the garbage like ImpactColor something or other. The prices seem to be dropping quickly. Here are recent links : Free shipping New Arrival Vason mini usb digital fax FX1000 by EMS http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm...olesalers.html Price: US $106.00 / piece (1 - 5 pieces) and Paperless Portable USB 2.0 Digital Fax Machine SKU: A18470000A http://www.dinodirect.com/digital-fa...s.html?cur=EUR with a price of Price: €46.09 Comments please :-) TIA Why not just use your computer instead? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...s-Fax-and-Scan http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...s-Fax-and-Scan |
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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
John McGaw wrote in news:qr1er.116534$xU2.114617@en-
nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com: On 4/1/2012 1:39 PM, Loony wrote: Hello Experts :-) I have been looking for a paperless fax machine, to replace the garbage like ImpactColor something or other. The prices seem to be dropping quickly. snip... Somebody still uses fax? My neighbour has a gas station, and gets the daily fuel price list by fax. He could use his computer/modem to recieve them, but he prefers paper. Also some legal correspondence needs a paper trail. Email is fine, but too easely forged. |
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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
In the last episode of
, Sjouke Burry s@b said: Email is fine, but too easely forged. So is paper. It's a heck of a lot easier to forge paper than email stored on a third party's mail server (especially in terms of rewriting history since you can't re-write logs) The difference is that email can include digital signatures and other electronic audit trails that can be made to be difficult to forge (or would at least require a third party's participation to forge) -- This signature was randomly selected |
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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:36:49 -0700, DevilsPGD
wrote: In the last episode of 0, Sjouke Burry s@b said: Email is fine, but too easely forged. So is paper. It's a heck of a lot easier to forge paper than email stored on a third party's mail server (especially in terms of rewriting history since you can't re-write logs) The difference is that email can include digital signatures and other electronic audit trails that can be made to be difficult to forge (or would at least require a third party's participation to forge) There are protections on paper mail as well. Watermarked paper, seals, etc. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko |
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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
John McGaw writes:
Somebody still uses fax? Surprisingly I found myself sending two last year. In both cases it was less work than sending out paper mail. No idea if these people would've accepted scanned pdfs via email, might be too radical. |
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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
On 03/04/2012 9:56 PM, Anssi Saari wrote:
John writes: Somebody still uses fax? Surprisingly I found myself sending two last year. In both cases it was less work than sending out paper mail. No idea if these people would've accepted scanned pdfs via email, might be too radical. A fax is identified as to source, may contain a signature, and can be immediately stored away as paper, whatever the dubiousness of its source, in the files of the recipient with no intermediate steps subject to any interference. Like things you shouldn't have said, and pictures you shouldn't have posted, it's forever there, assuming the recipient has secure storage procedures. |
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Paperless faxing - prices dropping?
In the last episode of ,
Anthony Buckland said: On 03/04/2012 9:56 PM, Anssi Saari wrote: John writes: Somebody still uses fax? Surprisingly I found myself sending two last year. In both cases it was less work than sending out paper mail. No idea if these people would've accepted scanned pdfs via email, might be too radical. A fax is identified as to source, may contain a signature, and can be immediately stored away as paper, whatever the dubiousness of its source, in the files of the recipient with no intermediate steps subject to any interference. Like things you shouldn't have said, and pictures you shouldn't have posted, it's forever there, assuming the recipient has secure storage procedures. All of which goes for email. -- This signature was randomly selected |
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