DeskPro 2000

I just rescued a DeskPro 2000 from a skip and it appears to be working
fine except for a problem which occurred when I tried to add some cards
to the machine. Basically as long as only the three slots (2 x ISA and
one ISA/PCI) on the outside of the riser are used all is well. If either
of the PCI slots on the inner side of the riser are occupied the machine
refuses to start up, in fact it does absolutely nothing and the screen
remains blank.

Any suggestion appreciated.

Alec

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HH wrote:

The risers in those units were problematical. Are you sure it is really
seated? It should make a noticeable SNAP sound when you push it in.
HH


Thanks for the reply. Yes it's fully home in the slot but I will try
reseating in view of your comment just in case.

Regards,

Alec
Yep, DP 2000's and 4000's, people would call me all the time after opening
them up and putting them back together and I would tell them to smack the
case right where the riser card is, they would laugh and I would tell them
I was serious so they would set the phone down, a few seconds later I would
hear a bang then a few seconds later the beep beep from a successful post
and they would come back on the phone laughing even harder.

The risers in those units were problematical. Are you sure it is really
seated? It should make a noticeable SNAP sound when you push it in.
HH

wrote in message ...
I just rescued a DeskPro 2000 from a skip and it appears to be working
fine except for a problem which occurred when I tried to add some cards
to the machine. Basically as long as only the three slots (2 x ISA and
one ISA/PCI) on the outside of the riser are used all is well. If either
of the PCI slots on the inner side of the riser are occupied the machine
refuses to start up, in fact it does absolutely nothing and the screen
remains blank.

Any suggestion appreciated.

Alec

HH wrote:

The risers in those units were problematical. Are you sure it is really
seated? It should make a noticeable SNAP sound when you push it in.
HH


Thanks for the reply. Yes it's fully home in the slot but I will try
reseating in view of your comment just in case.

Regards,

Alec

wrote:



Eugene wrote:

Yep, DP 2000's and 4000's, people would call me all the time after
opening them up and putting them back together and I would tell them to
smack the case right where the riser card is, they would laugh and I
would tell them I was serious so they would set the phone down, a few
seconds later I would hear a bang then a few seconds later the beep beep
from a successful post and they would come back on the phone laughing
even harder.

Sadly neither reseating the card nor a thump has had any effect. I'm
beginning to think the riser card must have problems as the machine
works fine with cards in both ISA slots and a PCI card in the PCI/ISA
slot. If the PCI card is then moved to one of the PCI slots on the other
side it refuses to start. Move the PCI card back and it starts straight
away.

Regards,

Alec
move it and clear cmos, maybe some PnP settings are getting confused.

Eugene wrote:

Yep, DP 2000's and 4000's, people would call me all the time after opening
them up and putting them back together and I would tell them to smack the
case right where the riser card is, they would laugh and I would tell them
I was serious so they would set the phone down, a few seconds later I would
hear a bang then a few seconds later the beep beep from a successful post
and they would come back on the phone laughing even harder.

Sadly neither reseating the card nor a thump has had any effect. I'm
beginning to think the riser card must have problems as the machine
works fine with cards in both ISA slots and a PCI card in the PCI/ISA
slot. If the PCI card is then moved to one of the PCI slots on the other
side it refuses to start. Move the PCI card back and it starts straight away.

Regards,

Alec

"Eugene" wrote in message
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wrote:



Eugene wrote:

Yep, DP 2000's and 4000's, people would call me all the time after
opening them up and putting them back together and I would tell them to
smack the case right where the riser card is, they would laugh and I
would tell them I was serious so they would set the phone down, a few
seconds later I would hear a bang then a few seconds later the beep
beep
from a successful post and they would come back on the phone laughing
even harder.

Sadly neither reseating the card nor a thump has had any effect. I'm
beginning to think the riser card must have problems as the machine
works fine with cards in both ISA slots and a PCI card in the PCI/ISA
slot. If the PCI card is then moved to one of the PCI slots on the other
side it refuses to start. Move the PCI card back and it starts straight
away.

Regards,

Alec
move it and clear cmos, maybe some PnP settings are getting confused.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but on the older machines, weren't some
slots shared? You could use most of them, but not all, at the same time?
Try removing all of them and then adding them back in one at a time to see
what might be shared with what. A bit time consuming, but as a last
resort...

KC

Kevin,
I seem to remember that being the case on those older 2000s, 4000s and
6000s.
HH

"Kevin Childers" wrote in message
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"Eugene" wrote in message
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wrote:



Eugene wrote:

Yep, DP 2000's and 4000's, people would call me all the time after
opening them up and putting them back together and I would tell them
to
smack the case right where the riser card is, they would laugh and I
would tell them I was serious so they would set the phone down, a few
seconds later I would hear a bang then a few seconds later the beep
beep
from a successful post and they would come back on the phone laughing
even harder.

Sadly neither reseating the card nor a thump has had any effect. I'm
beginning to think the riser card must have problems as the machine
works fine with cards in both ISA slots and a PCI card in the PCI/ISA
slot. If the PCI card is then moved to one of the PCI slots on the
other
side it refuses to start. Move the PCI card back and it starts straight
away.

Regards,

Alec
move it and clear cmos, maybe some PnP settings are getting confused.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but on the older machines, weren't
some
slots shared? You could use most of them, but not all, at the same time?
Try removing all of them and then adding them back in one at a time to see
what might be shared with what. A bit time consuming, but as a last
resort...

KC

"HH" wrote in message
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Kevin,
I seem to remember that being the case on those older 2000s, 4000s and
6000s.
HH

"Kevin Childers" wrote in message
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"Eugene" wrote in message
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wrote:



Eugene wrote:

Yep, DP 2000's and 4000's, people would call me all the time after
opening them up and putting them back together and I would tell them
to
smack the case right where the riser card is, they would laugh and I
would tell them I was serious so they would set the phone down, a
few
seconds later I would hear a bang then a few seconds later the beep
beep
from a successful post and they would come back on the phone
laughing
even harder.

Sadly neither reseating the card nor a thump has had any effect. I'm
beginning to think the riser card must have problems as the machine
works fine with cards in both ISA slots and a PCI card in the PCI/ISA
slot. If the PCI card is then moved to one of the PCI slots on the
other
side it refuses to start. Move the PCI card back and it starts
straight
away.

Regards,

Alec
move it and clear cmos, maybe some PnP settings are getting confused.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but on the older machines, weren't
some
slots shared? You could use most of them, but not all, at the same
time?
Try removing all of them and then adding them back in one at a time to
see
what might be shared with what. A bit time consuming, but as a last
resort...

KC


So my memory isn't that bad, thanks for confirming that. Now if I could
just recall which ones were shared. That would probably Alec a bit of time
finding out through trial and error. Would you know or as always could you
post the link to the exact answer at the Compaq Web site?

BTW, this is not a Compaq unique issue. A lot of older machines had
sharing of ISA/PCI/??? slots. The only ones I don't recall any sharing with
was MicroChannel, but that design/technology didn't really make it
commercially. Still just when you think they are all dead and gone some one
hauls one in and ask you to work on it.

KC

Kevin Childers wrote:

So my memory isn't that bad, thanks for confirming that. Now if I could
just recall which ones were shared. That would probably Alec a bit of time
finding out through trial and error. Would you know or as always could you
post the link to the exact answer at the Compaq Web site?

BTW, this is not a Compaq unique issue. A lot of older machines had
sharing of ISA/PCI/??? slots. The only ones I don't recall any sharing with
was MicroChannel, but that design/technology didn't really make it
commercially. Still just when you think they are all dead and gone some one
hauls one in and ask you to work on it.

KC

I've now cleared the CMOS with no change. Have also removed all cards
and just put one PCI card in one of the inboard slots and the machine
failed to boot, Put the card back in the combine PCI/ISA slot and it
works.

As this machine was pulled out of a skip I'm beginning to wonder if this
problem is why it was in there in the first place!

Regards,

Alec