Coaster production in NERO

Just relating an experience --
I have a VCD that I created using PSPA. Works fine on my DVD player,
but not on some others.
I needed copies so I used NERO CDCopy - first one failed with a buffer
underrun (supposed protection is useless). I'd seen this before so I
reduced speed to 12 (drive rated at 52) and that failed, too.
Ran a speed test and simulation and the sim was successful.
Tried again - it failed right at the end - I was watching this time.
Further checking showed that the VCD had 768MB on it, and CD was rated
at 700.
Learned a lesson - go buy some 800 MB CDs and don't trust the buffer
underrun protection or the simulation.

"Jim T." je napisal v sporocilo
...
Just relating an experience --
I have a VCD that I created using PSPA. Works fine on my DVD player,
but not on some others.
I needed copies so I used NERO CDCopy - first one failed with a buffer
underrun (supposed protection is useless). I'd seen this before so I
reduced speed to 12 (drive rated at 52) and that failed, too.
Ran a speed test and simulation and the sim was successful.
Tried again - it failed right at the end - I was watching this time.
Further checking showed that the VCD had 768MB on it, and CD was rated
at 700.
Learned a lesson - go buy some 800 MB CDs and don't trust the buffer
underrun protection or the simulation.

I think if you got buffer underrun, it's not too small CDR issue. If that
was the question, Nero would tell you before burning even starts.
Check out if you have possibly transfer set to PIO instead to DMA, or try to
reinstall Nero. Note also that 1 byte is 1024 bits and 1 Mb is 1024 kbytes,
so if VCD has 768 M in explorer, that are kbytes, not MBytes. You can see
real size in "info about compilation" ,then "info" tab - there it's written
total data to be burned. Also checkout red bar at the bottom.

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:58:48 +0200, "SleeperMan"
wrote:


"Jim T." je napisal v sporocilo
...
Just relating an experience --
I have a VCD that I created using PSPA. Works fine on my DVD player,
but not on some others.
I needed copies so I used NERO CDCopy - first one failed with a buffer
underrun (supposed protection is useless). I'd seen this before so I
reduced speed to 12 (drive rated at 52) and that failed, too.
Ran a speed test and simulation and the sim was successful.
Tried again - it failed right at the end - I was watching this time.
Further checking showed that the VCD had 768MB on it, and CD was rated
at 700.
Learned a lesson - go buy some 800 MB CDs and don't trust the buffer
underrun protection or the simulation.

I think if you got buffer underrun, it's not too small CDR issue. If that
was the question, Nero would tell you before burning even starts.
Check out if you have possibly transfer set to PIO instead to DMA, or try to
reinstall Nero. Note also that 1 byte is 1024 bits and 1 Mb is 1024 kbytes,
so if VCD has 768 M in explorer, that are kbytes, not MBytes. You can see
real size in "info about compilation" ,then "info" tab - there it's written
total data to be burned. Also checkout red bar at the bottom.

Thanks for your interest, I can use all the help I can get!
It's Nero itself that tells me that the source CD (a TDK certified
plus) is 763 MB. I even made an image from it that is 800 MB and when
I try to write it to my 700MB CD it shows that it is too big (763).
Don't ask me how I created the VCD - I just did.
BTW - this happens with and without overburn on. I'm beginning to
suspect that the CDs I'm using (Memorex 52k) are somehow inferior.
When I have time I will try to get some good ones.
JustLink seems to be useless. I still get buffer underruns.

Jim T. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:58:48 +0200, "SleeperMan"
wrote:


"Jim T." je napisal v sporocilo
...
Just relating an experience --
I have a VCD that I created using PSPA. Works fine on my DVD player,
but not on some others.
I needed copies so I used NERO CDCopy - first one failed with a
buffer underrun (supposed protection is useless). I'd seen this
before so I reduced speed to 12 (drive rated at 52) and that
failed, too.
Ran a speed test and simulation and the sim was successful.
Tried again - it failed right at the end - I was watching this time.
Further checking showed that the VCD had 768MB on it, and CD was
rated at 700.
Learned a lesson - go buy some 800 MB CDs and don't trust the buffer
underrun protection or the simulation.

I think if you got buffer underrun, it's not too small CDR issue.
If that was the question, Nero would tell you before burning even
starts.
Check out if you have possibly transfer set to PIO instead to DMA,
or try to reinstall Nero. Note also that 1 byte is 1024 bits and 1
Mb is 1024 kbytes, so if VCD has 768 M in explorer, that are kbytes,
not MBytes. You can see real size in "info about compilation" ,then
"info" tab - there it's written total data to be burned. Also
checkout red bar at the bottom.

Thanks for your interest, I can use all the help I can get!
It's Nero itself that tells me that the source CD (a TDK certified
plus) is 763 MB. I even made an image from it that is 800 MB and when
I try to write it to my 700MB CD it shows that it is too big (763).
Don't ask me how I created the VCD - I just did.
BTW - this happens with and without overburn on. I'm beginning to
suspect that the CDs I'm using (Memorex 52k) are somehow inferior.
When I have time I will try to get some good ones.
JustLink seems to be useless. I still get buffer underruns.

I checked...a movie in explorer when i click properties, it says 695 M
(728.870.056 B). So, i guess that yours 768 is really a bit long...

Anyway, good luck!

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3ED13E69

( No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )

SleeperMan wrote:

Jim T. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:58:48 +0200, "SleeperMan"
wrote:


"Jim T." je napisal v sporocilo
...
Just relating an experience --
I have a VCD that I created using PSPA. Works fine on my DVD player,
but not on some others.
I needed copies so I used NERO CDCopy - first one failed with a
buffer underrun (supposed protection is useless). I'd seen this
before so I reduced speed to 12 (drive rated at 52) and that
failed, too.
Ran a speed test and simulation and the sim was successful.
Tried again - it failed right at the end - I was watching this time.
Further checking showed that the VCD had 768MB on it, and CD was
rated at 700.
Learned a lesson - go buy some 800 MB CDs and don't trust the buffer
underrun protection or the simulation.

I think if you got buffer underrun, it's not too small CDR issue.
If that was the question, Nero would tell you before burning even
starts.
Check out if you have possibly transfer set to PIO instead to DMA,
or try to reinstall Nero. Note also that 1 byte is 1024 bits and 1
Mb is 1024 kbytes, so if VCD has 768 M in explorer, that are kbytes,
not MBytes. You can see real size in "info about compilation" ,then
"info" tab - there it's written total data to be burned. Also
checkout red bar at the bottom.

Thanks for your interest, I can use all the help I can get!
It's Nero itself that tells me that the source CD (a TDK certified
plus) is 763 MB. I even made an image from it that is 800 MB and when
I try to write it to my 700MB CD it shows that it is too big (763).

There have been many reports of Nero complaining about not enough disc
space without cause. One poster reported that the problem disappeared
when the overburn was enabled.

Don't ask me how I created the VCD - I just did.
BTW - this happens with and without overburn on. I'm beginning to
suspect that the CDs I'm using (Memorex 52k) are somehow inferior.
When I have time I will try to get some good ones.
JustLink seems to be useless. I still get buffer underruns.

I checked...a movie in explorer when i click properties, it says 695 M
(728.870.056 B). So, i guess that yours 768 is really a bit long...

Videos are burned in Mode 2/Form 2 where data size per sector is 2336
bytes (vs 2048 for Mode 1). 700 * (2336/2048) = 798M

smh wrote:
. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3ED13E69

( No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )

SleeperMan wrote:

Jim T. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:58:48 +0200, "SleeperMan"
wrote:


"Jim T." je napisal v sporocilo
...
Just relating an experience --
I have a VCD that I created using PSPA. Works fine on my DVD
player, but not on some others.
I needed copies so I used NERO CDCopy - first one failed with a
buffer underrun (supposed protection is useless). I'd seen this
before so I reduced speed to 12 (drive rated at 52) and that
failed, too.
Ran a speed test and simulation and the sim was successful.
Tried again - it failed right at the end - I was watching this
time. Further checking showed that the VCD had 768MB on it, and
CD was rated at 700.
Learned a lesson - go buy some 800 MB CDs and don't trust the
buffer underrun protection or the simulation.

I think if you got buffer underrun, it's not too small CDR issue.
If that was the question, Nero would tell you before burning even
starts.
Check out if you have possibly transfer set to PIO instead to DMA,
or try to reinstall Nero. Note also that 1 byte is 1024 bits and 1
Mb is 1024 kbytes, so if VCD has 768 M in explorer, that are
kbytes, not MBytes. You can see real size in "info about
compilation" ,then "info" tab - there it's written total data to
be burned. Also checkout red bar at the bottom.

Thanks for your interest, I can use all the help I can get!
It's Nero itself that tells me that the source CD (a TDK certified
plus) is 763 MB. I even made an image from it that is 800 MB and
when I try to write it to my 700MB CD it shows that it is too big
(763).

There have been many reports of Nero complaining about not enough disc
space without cause. One poster reported that the problem disappeared
when the overburn was enabled.

Don't ask me how I created the VCD - I just did.
BTW - this happens with and without overburn on. I'm beginning to
suspect that the CDs I'm using (Memorex 52k) are somehow inferior.
When I have time I will try to get some good ones.
JustLink seems to be useless. I still get buffer underruns.

I checked...a movie in explorer when i click properties, it says 695
M (728.870.056 B). So, i guess that yours 768 is really a bit long...

Videos are burned in Mode 2/Form 2 where data size per sector is 2336
bytes (vs 2048 for Mode 1). 700 * (2336/2048) = 798M

Sure...i knew it's something like that...i know i did read once about it...i
just didn't recall what...
In fact, if i remember correct, VCD doesn't have error correction, so you
can squeeze more data on CDR...right?
Thanks for explanation!

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3ED13E69

( No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )

SleeperMan wrote:
smh wrote:

Videos are burned in Mode 2/Form 2 where data size per sector is 2336
bytes (vs 2048 for Mode 1). 700 * (2336/2048) = 798M

Correction: 2336 for CDROM Mode 2, 2324 for Mode2/Form2.
700 * (2324/2048) = 794M

Sure...i knew it's something like that...i know i did read once about it...i
just didn't recall what...
In fact, if i remember correct, VCD doesn't have error correction, so you
can squeeze more data on CDR...right?
Thanks for explanation!

Mode 2/Form 2 forgoes 276-byte ECC:

http://www.bydeluxe.com/resources/te...cdrom_spec.xml

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:14:05 -0700, smh wrote:

. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3ED13E69

( No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )

SleeperMan wrote:

Jim T. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:58:48 +0200, "SleeperMan"
wrote:


"Jim T." je napisal v sporocilo
...
Just relating an experience --
I have a VCD that I created using PSPA. Works fine on my DVD player,
but not on some others.
I needed copies so I used NERO CDCopy - first one failed with a
buffer underrun (supposed protection is useless). I'd seen this
before so I reduced speed to 12 (drive rated at 52) and that
failed, too.
Ran a speed test and simulation and the sim was successful.
Tried again - it failed right at the end - I was watching this time.
Further checking showed that the VCD had 768MB on it, and CD was
rated at 700.
Learned a lesson - go buy some 800 MB CDs and don't trust the buffer
underrun protection or the simulation.

I think if you got buffer underrun, it's not too small CDR issue.
If that was the question, Nero would tell you before burning even
starts.
Check out if you have possibly transfer set to PIO instead to DMA,
or try to reinstall Nero. Note also that 1 byte is 1024 bits and 1
Mb is 1024 kbytes, so if VCD has 768 M in explorer, that are kbytes,
not MBytes. You can see real size in "info about compilation" ,then
"info" tab - there it's written total data to be burned. Also
checkout red bar at the bottom.

Thanks for your interest, I can use all the help I can get!
It's Nero itself that tells me that the source CD (a TDK certified
plus) is 763 MB. I even made an image from it that is 800 MB and when
I try to write it to my 700MB CD it shows that it is too big (763).

There have been many reports of Nero complaining about not enough disc
space without cause. One poster reported that the problem disappeared
when the overburn was enabled.

Don't ask me how I created the VCD - I just did.
BTW - this happens with and without overburn on. I'm beginning to
suspect t hattheCDsI'musingaresomehowinferior.
When I have time I will try to get some good ones.
JustLink seems to be useless. I still get buffer underruns.

I checked...a movie in explorer when i click properties, it says 695 M
(728.870.056 B). So, i guess that yours 768 is really a bit long...

Videos are burned in Mode 2/Form 2 where data size per sector is 2336
bytes (vs 2048 for Mode 1). 700 * (2336/2048) = 798M

Just to wind up this educational process - I bought some SONY CDs, set
overburn on and write at 8. Copied the image, and it worked!!

Jim T. wrote:
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:14:05 -0700, smh wrote:

. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3ED13E69

( No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )

SleeperMan wrote:

Jim T. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:58:48 +0200, "SleeperMan"
wrote:


"Jim T." je napisal v sporocilo
...
Just relating an experience --
I have a VCD that I created using PSPA. Works fine on my DVD
player, but not on some others.
I needed copies so I used NERO CDCopy - first one failed with a
buffer underrun (supposed protection is useless). I'd seen this
before so I reduced speed to 12 (drive rated at 52) and that
failed, too.
Ran a speed test and simulation and the sim was successful.
Tried again - it failed right at the end - I was watching this
time. Further checking showed that the VCD had 768MB on it, and
CD was rated at 700.
Learned a lesson - go buy some 800 MB CDs and don't trust the
buffer underrun protection or the simulation.

I think if you got buffer underrun, it's not too small CDR issue.
If that was the question, Nero would tell you before burning even
starts.
Check out if you have possibly transfer set to PIO instead to DMA,
or try to reinstall Nero. Note also that 1 byte is 1024 bits and 1
Mb is 1024 kbytes, so if VCD has 768 M in explorer, that are
kbytes, not MBytes. You can see real size in "info about
compilation" ,then "info" tab - there it's written total data to
be burned. Also checkout red bar at the bottom.

Thanks for your interest, I can use all the help I can get!
It's Nero itself that tells me that the source CD (a TDK certified
plus) is 763 MB. I even made an image from it that is 800 MB and
when I try to write it to my 700MB CD it shows that it is too big
(763).

There have been many reports of Nero complaining about not enough
disc space without cause. One poster reported that the problem
disappeared when the overburn was enabled.

Don't ask me how I created the VCD - I just did.
BTW - this happens with and without overburn on. I'm beginning to
suspect t hattheCDsI'musingaresomehowinferior.
When I have time I will try to get some good ones.
JustLink seems to be useless. I still get buffer underruns.

I checked...a movie in explorer when i click properties, it says
695 M (728.870.056 B). So, i guess that yours 768 is really a bit
long...

Videos are burned in Mode 2/Form 2 where data size per sector is 2336
bytes (vs 2048 for Mode 1). 700 * (2336/2048) = 798M

Just to wind up this educational process - I bought some SONY CDs, set
overburn on and write at 8. Copied the image, and it worked!!

If you can only write at 8x, then check out in Control panel/system/device
manager/ IDE/ATA atapi controllers . Check out primary (and secondary, too)
IDE channel/properties/advanced and see if transfer mode is set to DMA. If
it's PIO, it's wrong. in this case, try to set it to DMA, but if it won't
go, just delete (remove) both channels and reboot.

smh wrote:
. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3ED13E69

( No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )

SleeperMan wrote:
smh wrote:

Videos are burned in Mode 2/Form 2 where data size per sector is
2336 bytes (vs 2048 for Mode 1). 700 * (2336/2048) = 798M

Correction: 2336 for CDROM Mode 2, 2324 for Mode2/Form2.
700 * (2324/2048) = 794M

Sure...i knew it's something like that...i know i did read once
about it...i just didn't recall what...
In fact, if i remember correct, VCD doesn't have error correction,
so you can squeeze more data on CDR...right?
Thanks for explanation!

Mode 2/Form 2 forgoes 276-byte ECC:

http://www.bydeluxe.com/resources/te...cdrom_spec.xml

Aha...nice site...thanks !