Gateway's Promise not to sell Sub-$1,000 PCs?

Blown capacitors are the rub with MicroStar. Clearly, they are not as bad as
PC Chips, but I can't rate them highly from my experience... Ben Myers

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:44:18 -0400, "Jack" wrote:

"Ben Myers" wrote: "There are good quaility motherboards (Intel, Asus and
maybe a couple others) and pure junk (PC Chips, ECS, Matsonic, MicroStar and
any other brand name for a PC Chips board)."

Ben, what have you found wrong with MicroStar motherboards? I've only seen
one with the bad capacitors issue, the rest ( a dozen) have been very
stable.

Jack


"Ben Myers" ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net wrote in message
.. .
Component or commodity? They are all commodities these days. In a few
areas,
there are some brands of commodity components that are better than others.
There are good quaility motherboards (Intel, Asus and maybe a couple
others) and
pure junk (PC Chips, ECS, Matsonic, MicroStar and any other brand name for
a PC
Chips board). There are good hard drives (Fujitsu, Seagate) and junk
(Maxtor
now assimilated by Seagate, Samsung). There are decent CD/DVD
readers/burners/combo drives (Sony, Hitachi, LG) and really and truly
no-name
brands. Cases differ in price, quality and features. You still have
major
choices available like AMD vs Intel or Celeron vs Pentium 4 vs Xeon.

So pick your commodity components from what is available and move on.

... Ben Myers


On 23 Jul 2006 14:48:23 -0700, "Justin"
wrote:


Ben Myers wrote:
I can't argue loudly about on-board video, but on-board NIC and on-board
audio,
provided they are of reasonable quality, cost pennies to build into a
motherboard and give excellent performance. Intel or Broadcom NIC
chips are
first rate. So are ADI audio chips. So why would you need something
different?
The best argument would be if one were a major audiophile with
discriminating
ear to match. Then maybe a $200 audio card would make sense. If so,
the
on-board audio can always be disabled.

On-board video is not really awful either for most run-of-the-mill
computing
tasks. It simply does not cut it for gamers... Ben Myers


I understand that, I simply like choosing every component.
than again I also liked paying a buck for a gallon of gas too.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:49:39 -0400, Ben Myers ben_myers_spam_me_not @
charter.net wrote:

But the
Maxtor brand has a well-deserved poor reputation.

That is what I have not only heard but read and reviews over and over.

BTW, I have a Maxtor WD1200JB. It was not that I bought a Maxtor
specifically because it was a Maxtor but because it was sold as a New
Item, But.... in a broken shrink wrapped open box with no papers for
$20 (The white box builder built a system that was not picked up so he
parted it out).

What is your views on WD drives and if you have any personal
experience with the above model?

Regards,
Ed

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:56:10 -0400, Ed
wrote:

DAMN!!! We talk about Maxtor and I say Maxtor when I am talking about
Western Digital. Sorry about that. Just replace Maxtor with WD in my
message.....


On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:49:39 -0400, Ben Myers ben_myers_spam_me_not @
charter.net wrote:

But the
Maxtor brand has a well-deserved poor reputation.

That is what I have not only heard but read and reviews over and over.

BTW, I have a Maxtor WD1200JB. It was not that I bought a Maxtor
specifically because it was a Maxtor but because it was sold as a New
Item, But.... in a broken shrink wrapped open box with no papers for
$20 (The white box builder built a system that was not picked up so he
parted it out).

What is your views on WD drives and if you have any personal
experience with the above model?

Regards,
Ed

No serious horror stories with WD... Ben Myers

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:59:00 -0400, Ed wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:56:10 -0400, Ed
wrote:

DAMN!!! We talk about Maxtor and I say Maxtor when I am talking about
Western Digital. Sorry about that. Just replace Maxtor with WD in my
message.....


On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:49:39 -0400, Ben Myers ben_myers_spam_me_not @
charter.net wrote:

But the
Maxtor brand has a well-deserved poor reputation.

That is what I have not only heard but read and reviews over and over.

BTW, I have a Maxtor WD1200JB. It was not that I bought a Maxtor
specifically because it was a Maxtor but because it was sold as a New
Item, But.... in a broken shrink wrapped open box with no papers for
$20 (The white box builder built a system that was not picked up so he
parted it out).

What is your views on WD drives and if you have any personal
experience with the above model?

Regards,
Ed