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O/T Graphics card - Recommendation
My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. Basically I don't
know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? Thanks in advance. |
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"oO" wrote in message ... My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. That should have read "has died / went belly-up". Basically I don't know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? Thanks in advance. |
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" My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. Basically I don't know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? " I'm unsure what you mean about the relationship between graphics and sound. Why *therefore* has your sound died too? I think something has probably gone in your system, and you get no display, no sound and the system won't boot. Perhaps you can enlighten us to the components you currently have. |
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"Cuzman" wrote in message ... oO wrote: " My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. Basically I don't know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? " I'm unsure what you mean about the relationship between graphics and sound. Why *therefore* has your sound died too? I think something has probably gone in your system, and you get no display, no sound and the system won't boot. Perhaps you can enlighten us to the components you currently have. Sorry you are both correct. Basically what has happened is that my sound has gone completely. Also the graphics have started messing up. When you boot into XP it looks fine. Open a window however and a pink haze descends onto it and then moves about when the mouse is moved. Same thing with games, no sound and a pinkish haze which gets progrssivley worse as the more you move. When the standard XP screensaver comes on this a distorted green fuzz around the winxp logo. The graphics get a little better when I 'wiggle' the cable going from my monitor into the graphics card. This leads me to believe it is this card at fault. However the sound is nothing to do with the graphics card as ou have both pointed out this onboard - my motherboard. My system is: Athlon 3000 512mb ram ATI All-in-Wonder 9200 Windows XP |
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"oO" wrote in message ... My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. Basically I don't know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? Thanks in advance. By the way - any difference in these two cards (apart from the price?) ?? Sapphire ATI Radeon All In Wonder 9800 £127.16 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...342458-7282820 Sapphire THE BEAST ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON £229 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...342458-7282820 |
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"oO" wrote in message ... "Cuzman" wrote in message ... oO wrote: " My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. Basically I don't know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? " I'm unsure what you mean about the relationship between graphics and sound. Why *therefore* has your sound died too? I think something has probably gone in your system, and you get no display, no sound and the system won't boot. Perhaps you can enlighten us to the components you currently have. Sorry you are both correct. Basically what has happened is that my sound has gone completely. Also the graphics have started messing up. When you boot into XP it looks fine. Open a window however and a pink haze descends onto it and then moves about when the mouse is moved. Same thing with games, no sound and a pinkish haze which gets progrssivley worse as the more you move. When the standard XP screensaver comes on this a distorted green fuzz around the winxp logo. The graphics get a little better when I 'wiggle' the cable going from my monitor into the graphics card. This leads me to believe it is this card at fault. However the sound is nothing to do with the graphics card as ou have both pointed out this onboard - my motherboard. My system is: Athlon 3000 512mb ram ATI All-in-Wonder 9200 Windows XP Having a look at my device manager it says under Sound, game, video controller -- ATI Rage Theatre Audio - Found on ATI All-in-wonder (my graphics card). So I presume this card as the name suggests handles my audio and video - and it is not in fact on-board sound (on the motherboard) ? This would make more sense. |
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"oO" wrote in message ... "Cuzman" wrote in message ... oO wrote: " My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. Basically I don't know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? " I'm unsure what you mean about the relationship between graphics and sound. Why *therefore* has your sound died too? I think something has probably gone in your system, and you get no display, no sound and the system won't boot. Perhaps you can enlighten us to the components you currently have. Sorry you are both correct. Basically what has happened is that my sound has gone completely. Also the graphics have started messing up. When you boot into XP it looks fine. Open a window however and a pink haze descends onto it and then moves about when the mouse is moved. Same thing with games, no sound and a pinkish haze which gets progrssivley worse as the more you move. When the standard XP screensaver comes on this a distorted green fuzz around the winxp logo. The graphics get a little better when I 'wiggle' the cable going from my monitor into the graphics card. This leads me to believe it is this card at fault. However the sound is nothing to do with the graphics card as ou have both pointed out this onboard - my motherboard. My system is: Athlon 3000 512mb ram ATI All-in-Wonder 9200 Windows XP Hi! Has this PC been "made" for you by a friend or have you put it together yourself, or is it from a shop. The only reason I ask is because what you are describing is what happens when a power supply can't cope. The 3000XP takes a fair amount of power, so anything other than around 350watts is not going to power the PC properly when you think about the fancy stuff you have plugged in. If the power supply can't cope, usually you start noticing screechy or non-existant sound, or broken/distorted sound after a few minutes or when you move the mouse. The video display can be the same, distorted and going off after a while. What you need to do is look at the wattage of the power supply, i would suggest someting above 300w, maybe nearer to the 500w mark. www.aria.co.uk were selling some cheap 550w power supplies a while back. Often it's cheaper to buy a case with a power supply included. I found the above problems using an ASROCK motherboard and Athlon 3000XP. i had installed everything into a case that had only a 200w power supply and thought at first it was the board, then the sound, then the video side of things. All mine were built in to the main board. The case and power supply had happily run the Athlon 750 for years, so it was only when I looked at the specifications I realised it was the power supply. I had contacted ASROCK and spoken to people on newsgroups ad the usual "EXPERT" advice was - install the latest drivers, don't plug the mouse into the USB port, shut windows down and start it up again. Loads of the usual rubbish ! So before spending loads, check your power supply and see if you can borrow a better one. You will also need to go into the BIOS by holding down DEL, F1 or F2, whichever it is on your board. Check you have the devices switched on. The fact you said you HAD sound at one point makes me think you have the drivers installed, so no need to check all that again - unless you have done something to it. Good luck! |
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'oO' wrote, in part:
| The graphics get a little better when I 'wiggle' the cable | going from my monitor into the graphics card. This leads me to believe it is | this card at fault. _____ Your problem definitely seems to be with hardware, but the fault could be the cable, or the connector, or that the card is not firmly seated in its socket. All of these causes are more likely than a failed, or intermitent card (though the card could be at fault. If the monitor cable or monitor cable connector is at fault, it is likely to be infeasible to replace the cable. Check carefully and methodically to determine and confirm exactly what is causing the problem. To diagnoise * Remove the video card then reseat carefully * Unplug the monitor cable, then reconnect carefully * Examine the monitor cable carefully for signs of stress near the monitor and near the connector; a common cause of monitor cable failure is too sharp a bend at the connector or at the back of the monitor. A 3 inch radius turn is a good idea * Try using another known good monitor with your system * Try using another known good video card with your system As for recommendations, pick a card suitable for video-editing based on the editing software you like. The requirements for video editing will also depend on the format of your source video. The best gaming cards are not necessarily the best video editing cards. I suggest you post information about the video editing software you wish to use, the input video format, and your price range. Phil Weldon "oO" wrote in message ... "Cuzman" wrote in message ... oO wrote: " My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. Basically I don't know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? " I'm unsure what you mean about the relationship between graphics and sound. Why *therefore* has your sound died too? I think something has probably gone in your system, and you get no display, no sound and the system won't boot. Perhaps you can enlighten us to the components you currently have. Sorry you are both correct. Basically what has happened is that my sound has gone completely. Also the graphics have started messing up. When you boot into XP it looks fine. Open a window however and a pink haze descends onto it and then moves about when the mouse is moved. Same thing with games, no sound and a pinkish haze which gets progrssivley worse as the more you move. When the standard XP screensaver comes on this a distorted green fuzz around the winxp logo. The graphics get a little better when I 'wiggle' the cable going from my monitor into the graphics card. This leads me to believe it is this card at fault. However the sound is nothing to do with the graphics card as ou have both pointed out this onboard - my motherboard. My system is: Athlon 3000 512mb ram ATI All-in-Wonder 9200 Windows XP |
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"Ian" wrote in message ... "oO" wrote in message ... "Cuzman" wrote in message ... oO wrote: " My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. Basically I don't know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? " I'm unsure what you mean about the relationship between graphics and sound. Why *therefore* has your sound died too? I think something has probably gone in your system, and you get no display, no sound and the system won't boot. Perhaps you can enlighten us to the components you currently have. Sorry you are both correct. Basically what has happened is that my sound has gone completely. Also the graphics have started messing up. When you boot into XP it looks fine. Open a window however and a pink haze descends onto it and then moves about when the mouse is moved. Same thing with games, no sound and a pinkish haze which gets progrssivley worse as the more you move. When the standard XP screensaver comes on this a distorted green fuzz around the winxp logo. The graphics get a little better when I 'wiggle' the cable going from my monitor into the graphics card. This leads me to believe it is this card at fault. However the sound is nothing to do with the graphics card as ou have both pointed out this onboard - my motherboard. My system is: Athlon 3000 512mb ram ATI All-in-Wonder 9200 Windows XP Hi! Has this PC been "made" for you by a friend or have you put it together yourself, or is it from a shop. The only reason I ask is because what you are describing is what happens when a power supply can't cope. The 3000XP takes a fair amount of power, so anything other than around 350watts is not going to power the PC properly when you think about the fancy stuff you have plugged in. If the power supply can't cope, usually you start noticing screechy or non-existant sound, or broken/distorted sound after a few minutes or when you move the mouse. The video display can be the same, distorted and going off after a while. What you need to do is look at the wattage of the power supply, i would suggest someting above 300w, maybe nearer to the 500w mark. www.aria.co.uk were selling some cheap 550w power supplies a while back. Often it's cheaper to buy a case with a power supply included. I found the above problems using an ASROCK motherboard and Athlon 3000XP. i had installed everything into a case that had only a 200w power supply and thought at first it was the board, then the sound, then the video side of things. All mine were built in to the main board. The case and power supply had happily run the Athlon 750 for years, so it was only when I looked at the specifications I realised it was the power supply. I had contacted ASROCK and spoken to people on newsgroups ad the usual "EXPERT" advice was - install the latest drivers, don't plug the mouse into the USB port, shut windows down and start it up again. Loads of the usual rubbish ! So before spending loads, check your power supply and see if you can borrow a better one. You will also need to go into the BIOS by holding down DEL, F1 or F2, whichever it is on your board. Check you have the devices switched on. The fact you said you HAD sound at one point makes me think you have the drivers installed, so no need to check all that again - unless you have done something to it. Good luck! Excellent information. Thanks for taking the time out to give me all that. Very helpful. I think you might have cracked it. I will take a look for a beast of a power supply and see how that goes. Thanks again! |
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"Phil Weldon" wrote in message ink.net... 'oO' wrote, in part: | The graphics get a little better when I 'wiggle' the cable | going from my monitor into the graphics card. This leads me to believe it is | this card at fault. _____ Your problem definitely seems to be with hardware, but the fault could be the cable, or the connector, or that the card is not firmly seated in its socket. All of these causes are more likely than a failed, or intermitent card (though the card could be at fault. If the monitor cable or monitor cable connector is at fault, it is likely to be infeasible to replace the cable. Check carefully and methodically to determine and confirm exactly what is causing the problem. To diagnoise * Remove the video card then reseat carefully * Unplug the monitor cable, then reconnect carefully * Examine the monitor cable carefully for signs of stress near the monitor and near the connector; a common cause of monitor cable failure is too sharp a bend at the connector or at the back of the monitor. A 3 inch radius turn is a good idea * Try using another known good monitor with your system * Try using another known good video card with your system As for recommendations, pick a card suitable for video-editing based on the editing software you like. The requirements for video editing will also depend on the format of your source video. The best gaming cards are not necessarily the best video editing cards. I suggest you post information about the video editing software you wish to use, the input video format, and your price range. Phil Weldon "oO" wrote in message ... "Cuzman" wrote in message ... oO wrote: " My graphics card (and therefore sound too) has went died. Basically I don't know much about them. What I need is one that can be used for playing graphic intensive games (counter-strike type games) and for video-editing. Also needs on-board sound. Any recommendations? Obviously the cheaper the better - but what is an average price for this kind of kit? " I'm unsure what you mean about the relationship between graphics and sound. Why *therefore* has your sound died too? I think something has probably gone in your system, and you get no display, no sound and the system won't boot. Perhaps you can enlighten us to the components you currently have. Sorry you are both correct. Basically what has happened is that my sound has gone completely. Also the graphics have started messing up. When you boot into XP it looks fine. Open a window however and a pink haze descends onto it and then moves about when the mouse is moved. Same thing with games, no sound and a pinkish haze which gets progrssivley worse as the more you move. When the standard XP screensaver comes on this a distorted green fuzz around the winxp logo. The graphics get a little better when I 'wiggle' the cable going from my monitor into the graphics card. This leads me to believe it is this card at fault. However the sound is nothing to do with the graphics card as ou have both pointed out this onboard - my motherboard. My system is: Athlon 3000 512mb ram ATI All-in-Wonder 9200 Windows XP Thanks very much for taking the time to reply. Here's an update I have removed the ATI all-in-wonder video card and replaced it with an Nvdia card (very basic one). I no longer have the corrupted/distorted display problems. However still no sound. I think the all-in-wonder had some kindof on-board sound chipset. Anyway the system is now using the motherboards on-board sound as 'legacy audio' appears in device manager. I can't work it out why I have no sound. However I'm thinking this could be a software fault/setting. I've been through all the audio settings in XP but with no luck..... |
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