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Old June 28th 03, 10:22 PM
NgOnly
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Hi. I bought a Sony CRX225A CD-R/RW 52X write, 24X rewrite drive.

This replaces my Yamaha CRW2100E rewritable drive which stopped writing to
disks not too long ago (after only 150 disks used -- sucks but that is
another story).

My question is this. I used Adaptec DirectCD with the Yamaha drive, which
allowed me to drag and drop onto CDR disks. But, my new Sony drive forces me
to use their B's Recorder Gold software if I want to use CDR disk, and drag
and drop can't be done with a CDR disk.

If I want to drag and drop, Sony says I have to buy CDRW disks, which are
more expensive.

What's the deal? Why could I drag and drop on my 2 year old Yamaha cd writer
using CDRs but not my new Sony writer (where they say I have to use CDRW
disks)?

Should I return it and get another drive?

All I want to do is simple data archiving, dragging and dropping data from
Explorer. Can any of you gurus advise me. Perhaps there is a better drive
more suited to my needs?

Or can I use other software with the Sony drive that will allow me to drag
and drop onto CDRs?

Thanks for any advice.



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Old June 28th 03, 11:06 PM
Rick
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"NgOnly" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Hi. I bought a Sony CRX225A CD-R/RW 52X write, 24X rewrite drive.

This replaces my Yamaha CRW2100E rewritable drive which stopped writing to
disks not too long ago (after only 150 disks used -- sucks but that is
another story).

My question is this. I used Adaptec DirectCD with the Yamaha drive, which
allowed me to drag and drop onto CDR disks. But, my new Sony drive forces

me
to use their B's Recorder Gold software if I want to use CDR disk, and

drag
and drop can't be done with a CDR disk.

If I want to drag and drop, Sony says I have to buy CDRW disks, which are
more expensive.

What's the deal? Why could I drag and drop on my 2 year old Yamaha cd

writer
using CDRs but not my new Sony writer (where they say I have to use CDRW
disks)?

Should I return it and get another drive?

All I want to do is simple data archiving, dragging and dropping data from
Explorer. Can any of you gurus advise me. Perhaps there is a better drive
more suited to my needs?

Or can I use other software with the Sony drive that will allow me to drag
and drop onto CDRs?

Thanks for any advice.


Are you using a version of DirectCd that was bundled with another drive?

If so it won't work with another make drive. You may want to consider using
multisession burning rather than packet writing. Don't trust important data
with packet writing.



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Old June 29th 03, 04:53 AM
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"SNIP



Are you using a version of DirectCd that was bundled with another drive?

If so it won't work with another make drive. You may want to consider

using
multisession burning rather than packet writing. Don't trust important

data
with packet writing.



Another post that is total BS. Roxio CD Creator ver. 5.1 and above will
work with almost any drive. There are updates for the newset drives on the
market. You just need to install it and then go to the Roxio website for
the latest updates. Packet writing is as safe as any other ofrm, and is in
fact as safe as delayed disc writes on NTFS discs. Other computers will
need to have a UDF reader installed to read a packet written CD-RW. I hate
when someone who does not know what he's talking about answeres a post,
giving completely wrong information.

In addition to Roxio's product, you can use Nero Burning Rom.

The person who posted the above probably could not find his a** with both
hands and a map!

Bobby




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Old June 29th 03, 07:00 AM
smh
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"NoNoBadDog!" wrote:

Packet writing is as safe as any other ofrm, and is in
fact as safe as delayed disc writes on NTFS discs.


=====================================
Mike Richter & "Lethal for archiving"
=====================================

( The following applies only to DirectCD )
( and Drag-to-Disc )

=====================
From: Mike Richter (cRoxio Shill)
Subject: File Integrity Errors - DirectCD Bug?
Date: 10/15/01

Combining the flaky UDF fixed-length packets with
the tendency of erasables (particularly HS) to forget
is LETHAL for archiving.
=====================
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Old June 29th 03, 07:01 AM
smh
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"NoNoBadDog!" wrote:

Packet writing is as safe as any other ofrm, and is in
fact as safe as delayed disc writes on NTFS discs.


DirectCD has too many problems that even a cRoxio Shill, of all things,
would not bother with it:

=====================
From: Mike Richter (cRoxio Shill)
Date: 8/19/02

I have used only DCD for packet writing,
have had no problems due to the software -
but too many due to the format itself

to bother with it any longer.

=====================
From: Mike Richter (cRoxio Shill)
Date: 6/17/02

uninstalled DCD
when I stopped testing for Roxio
=====================

The above Mikey's statement is the first ever case in which a Shill is
rejecting the very product IT is shilling for.

With a Shill like this, cRoxio doesn't need any critics!

--------------------------
cRoxio, Eat Your Heart Out !!!
--------------------------
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Old June 29th 03, 07:55 AM
smh
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"NoNoBadDog!" wrote:

Packet writing is as safe as any other ofrm, and is in
fact as safe as delayed disc writes on NTFS discs.


Safe? When using fixed-length packets?

================================
From: "BrianT"
Subject: Loosing Disk Space {formatting CDRW}
Date: 5/8/03

Mike Richter (Hit&Run) wrote...

BrianT wrote:

Hi this is strange, anyone else get this? or can explain it When I
re-format a CDRW with Drag to Disk Full Format {EasyCD 6}, the space
available after format drops by between 150 and 200 Mgs and I cannot
get it back. A full format on a new CDRW is OK. I have a LG
52x24x52x and use TDK or Packard Bell 10X CDRW. This never happened
with EasyCD 5.


The space you are losing is due to sectors found to be unreliable.
It's a good sign that the disc is developing errors and is ready for
the trash. You'll also find that formatting gets slower; it takes time
to retry verification and to mark the bad sectors.


If you insist on using fixed-length packets, you ask for that as well
as losing data.


Mmm, but if I format a brand new CDRW I get the full monty then if I
immediately re-format, quick or full, I loose 150Mg. Surly CDRW's don't
develop errors after 5 minutes?

Also from your statement "If you insist on using fixed-length packets,
you ask for that as well as losing data" are you suggesting that the
Drag and Drop part of Easy CD is unreliable and should not be used ?

If so why does Easy Cd 6 have this software and say how easy it is to
use. Now I am very puzzled.
================================

[ Hit&Run Mikey has not yet responded ]
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Old June 29th 03, 08:00 AM
smh
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"NoNoBadDog!" wrote:

Packet writing is as safe as any other ofrm, and is in
fact as safe as delayed disc writes on NTFS discs.


Safe? When the "format" is flaky, fragile, unreliable and faulty?

Mike Richter on packet writing "format":

the most fragile format
the inherent fragility of the format
the flaky UDF fixed-length packets
the format is very fragile and unreliable

the fault is not with the software but with the format

the format is fragile;
the fault is not in the software per se.
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Old June 29th 03, 07:48 AM
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Please note the *NEW* Abuse addy for SMH...

Be sure to mention this psychotic has been suspended from Usenet posting
many times; most recently from Giganews. As he may be just
circumventing abuse reports there, please continue to address them to
GIganews also until they state he is no longer a customer for TOS abuse.

X-Abuse-Report:


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Old June 28th 03, 11:54 PM
smh
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NgOnly wrote:

Hi. I bought a Sony CRX225A CD-R/RW 52X write, 24X rewrite drive.

This replaces my Yamaha CRW2100E rewritable drive which stopped writing to
disks not too long ago (after only 150 disks used -- sucks but that is
another story).

My question is this. I used Adaptec DirectCD with the Yamaha drive, which
allowed me to drag and drop onto CDR disks. But, my new Sony drive forces me
to use their B's Recorder Gold software if I want to use CDR disk, and drag
and drop can't be done with a CDR disk.

If I want to drag and drop, Sony says I have to buy CDRW disks, which are
more expensive.

What's the deal? Why could I drag and drop on my 2 year old Yamaha cd writer
using CDRs but not my new Sony writer (where they say I have to use CDRW
disks)?

Should I return it and get another drive?

All I want to do is simple data archiving, dragging and dropping data from
Explorer. Can any of you gurus advise me. Perhaps there is a better drive
more suited to my needs?

Or can I use other software with the Sony drive that will allow me to drag
and drop onto CDRs?

Thanks for any advice.


It's not the drive. B's CLip does not support cd-r media.

If you like drag&drop with cd-r media, look into RSJ CD-Writer, which
does drag&drop without using packet writing:

http://www.rsj.de
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Old June 28th 03, 11:52 PM
Dan G
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Your version of DirectCD may not be compatible with that drive, and you
would need to update it. I'm not familiar with Sony's proprietary software,
but if it has packet writing function, you cannot install DirectCD on the
system at the same time. Check the DirectCD drive compatibility list for
your version.
Another option would be to flash that Sony to a LiteOn firmware (LTR-52246S,
recommend 6S0D), and use Nero or Easy CD for burning. Of course you still
have to have a version that's compatible with the newer drives.


"NgOnly" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
Hi. I bought a Sony CRX225A CD-R/RW 52X write, 24X rewrite drive.

This replaces my Yamaha CRW2100E rewritable drive which stopped writing to
disks not too long ago (after only 150 disks used -- sucks but that is
another story).

My question is this. I used Adaptec DirectCD with the Yamaha drive, which
allowed me to drag and drop onto CDR disks. But, my new Sony drive forces

me
to use their B's Recorder Gold software if I want to use CDR disk, and

drag
and drop can't be done with a CDR disk.

If I want to drag and drop, Sony says I have to buy CDRW disks, which are
more expensive.

What's the deal? Why could I drag and drop on my 2 year old Yamaha cd

writer
using CDRs but not my new Sony writer (where they say I have to use CDRW
disks)?

Should I return it and get another drive?

All I want to do is simple data archiving, dragging and dropping data from
Explorer. Can any of you gurus advise me. Perhaps there is a better drive
more suited to my needs?

Or can I use other software with the Sony drive that will allow me to drag
and drop onto CDRs?

Thanks for any advice.





 




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