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Is my HDD dying or something else from these errors and symptoms?
Hello.
For about two weeks ago, I had two of these incidents (13 days apart between them): hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success From this, my old Linux/Debian system became slow and unresponsive due to high CPU usage (e.g., 7.xx in top). I had to shutdown (shutdown -r now) Linux/Debian, reboot, and things are back to normal speed. I doubt it is temperature related because the room is in the 60s and 70s degrees(F) and computer wasn't working intensely (e.g., surfing the Web). Also, I recalled before these problems started, my motherboard (CMOS and BIOS) didn't see both of my primary master drives (both HDDs: hda and hdb), but can see my secondary master (DVD-ROM drive = hdc). I had to open the case, but didn't see anything wrong. I wiggled the cable ends for the HDDs. I booted my machine up and it seemed fine for a few days/a week and then these errors came up (not disconnections). I ran smartctl utility on both of my HDDs for information and results: http://pastebin.ca/930776 ... My full system specifications can be found he http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt (secondary/backup machine). Does that mean my decade old Quantum 6.4 GB HDD (already made a backup just in case) is finally dying? Or is it something else? Thank you in advance. -- "All the best work is done the way that ants do things -- by tiny but untiring and regular additions." --Lafcadio Hearn /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Ant @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( ) |
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Is my HDD dying or something else from these errors and symptoms?
Probably. What does
smartctl --all /dev/hda say? (and hdb) Does it report any errors? i On 2008-03-06, Ant wrote: Hello. For about two weeks ago, I had two of these incidents (13 days apart between them): hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success From this, my old Linux/Debian system became slow and unresponsive due to high CPU usage (e.g., 7.xx in top). I had to shutdown (shutdown -r now) Linux/Debian, reboot, and things are back to normal speed. I doubt it is temperature related because the room is in the 60s and 70s degrees(F) and computer wasn't working intensely (e.g., surfing the Web). Also, I recalled before these problems started, my motherboard (CMOS and BIOS) didn't see both of my primary master drives (both HDDs: hda and hdb), but can see my secondary master (DVD-ROM drive = hdc). I had to open the case, but didn't see anything wrong. I wiggled the cable ends for the HDDs. I booted my machine up and it seemed fine for a few days/a week and then these errors came up (not disconnections). I ran smartctl utility on both of my HDDs for information and results: http://pastebin.ca/930776 ... My full system specifications can be found he http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt (secondary/backup machine). Does that mean my decade old Quantum 6.4 GB HDD (already made a backup just in case) is finally dying? Or is it something else? Thank you in advance. |
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Is my HDD dying or something else from these errors and symptoms?
Please see the link I provided earlier (http://pastebin.ca/930776). It
has all the information. In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Ignoramus24341 wrote: Probably. What does smartctl --all /dev/hda say? (and hdb) Does it report any errors? i On 2008-03-06, Ant wrote: Hello. For about two weeks ago, I had two of these incidents (13 days apart between them): hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success From this, my old Linux/Debian system became slow and unresponsive due to high CPU usage (e.g., 7.xx in top). I had to shutdown (shutdown -r now) Linux/Debian, reboot, and things are back to normal speed. I doubt it is temperature related because the room is in the 60s and 70s degrees(F) and computer wasn't working intensely (e.g., surfing the Web). Also, I recalled before these problems started, my motherboard (CMOS and BIOS) didn't see both of my primary master drives (both HDDs: hda and hdb), but can see my secondary master (DVD-ROM drive = hdc). I had to open the case, but didn't see anything wrong. I wiggled the cable ends for the HDDs. I booted my machine up and it seemed fine for a few days/a week and then these errors came up (not disconnections). I ran smartctl utility on both of my HDDs for information and results: http://pastebin.ca/930776 ... My full system specifications can be found he http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt (secondary/backup machine). Does that mean my decade old Quantum 6.4 GB HDD (already made a backup just in case) is finally dying? Or is it something else? Thank you in advance. -- "All the best work is done the way that ants do things -- by tiny but untiring and regular additions." --Lafcadio Hearn /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Ant @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( ) |
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Is my HDD dying or something else from these errors and symptoms?
Your hdb is VERY old (over 6 years of actual running hours). It does
not seem to support SMART error logging, so you do not know what is wrong with it. I think that it is dying based on your errror messages from console. I would make sure to run a backup ASAP, like right now. i On 2008-03-06, Ant wrote: Please see the link I provided earlier (http://pastebin.ca/930776). It has all the information. In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Ignoramus24341 wrote: Probably. What does smartctl --all /dev/hda say? (and hdb) Does it report any errors? i On 2008-03-06, Ant wrote: Hello. For about two weeks ago, I had two of these incidents (13 days apart between them): hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success From this, my old Linux/Debian system became slow and unresponsive due to high CPU usage (e.g., 7.xx in top). I had to shutdown (shutdown -r now) Linux/Debian, reboot, and things are back to normal speed. I doubt it is temperature related because the room is in the 60s and 70s degrees(F) and computer wasn't working intensely (e.g., surfing the Web). Also, I recalled before these problems started, my motherboard (CMOS and BIOS) didn't see both of my primary master drives (both HDDs: hda and hdb), but can see my secondary master (DVD-ROM drive = hdc). I had to open the case, but didn't see anything wrong. I wiggled the cable ends for the HDDs. I booted my machine up and it seemed fine for a few days/a week and then these errors came up (not disconnections). I ran smartctl utility on both of my HDDs for information and results: http://pastebin.ca/930776 ... My full system specifications can be found he http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt (secondary/backup machine). Does that mean my decade old Quantum 6.4 GB HDD (already made a backup just in case) is finally dying? Or is it something else? Thank you in advance. |
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Is my HDD dying or something else from these errors and symptoms?
On 2008-03-06, Ignoramus24341 wrote:
Your hdb is VERY old (over 6 years of actual running hours). It does not seem to support SMART error logging, so you do not know what is wrong with it. I think that it is dying based on your errror messages from console. I would make sure to run a backup ASAP, like right now. By the way: ALL HARD DRIVES DIE. There are NO EXCEPTIONS to this. Some die earlier and some die later. But they all die. So not having a backup, verges on insanity. (I am not saying that you are not backing up, just making a statement). i |
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Is my HDD dying or something else from these errors and symptoms?
In alt.comp.periphs.hdd Ignoramus24341 wrote:
Your hdb is VERY old (over 6 years of actual running hours). It does not seem to support SMART error logging, so you do not know what is wrong with it. I think that it is dying based on your errror messages from console. I would make sure to run a backup ASAP, like right now. Already did onto hda since that's the only HDD I have to back up to). Now, how come before these errors came up my motherboard couldn't see BOTH HDDs? Is that related or just a coincident? On 2008-03-06, Ant wrote: Please see the link I provided earlier (http://pastebin.ca/930776). It has all the information. In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Ignoramus24341 wrote: Probably. What does smartctl --all /dev/hda say? (and hdb) Does it report any errors? i On 2008-03-06, Ant wrote: Hello. For about two weeks ago, I had two of these incidents (13 days apart between them): hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success From this, my old Linux/Debian system became slow and unresponsive due to high CPU usage (e.g., 7.xx in top). I had to shutdown (shutdown -r now) Linux/Debian, reboot, and things are back to normal speed. I doubt it is temperature related because the room is in the 60s and 70s degrees(F) and computer wasn't working intensely (e.g., surfing the Web). Also, I recalled before these problems started, my motherboard (CMOS and BIOS) didn't see both of my primary master drives (both HDDs: hda and hdb), but can see my secondary master (DVD-ROM drive = hdc). I had to open the case, but didn't see anything wrong. I wiggled the cable ends for the HDDs. I booted my machine up and it seemed fine for a few days/a week and then these errors came up (not disconnections). I ran smartctl utility on both of my HDDs for information and results: http://pastebin.ca/930776 ... My full system specifications can be found he http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt (secondary/backup machine). Does that mean my decade old Quantum 6.4 GB HDD (already made a backup just in case) is finally dying? Or is it something else? Thank you in advance. -- "All the best work is done the way that ants do things -- by tiny but untiring and regular additions." --Lafcadio Hearn /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Ant @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( ) |
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Is my HDD dying or something else from these errors and symptoms?
Ant wrote:
For about two weeks ago, I had two of these incidents (13 days apart between them): hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success Thats normally just a bad cable. And since the problem is seen with more than one hard drive, its almost certainly just a bad cable. Can be a bad hard drive controller on the motherboard etc but thats much less likely. From this, my old Linux/Debian system became slow and unresponsive due to high CPU usage (e.g., 7.xx in top). Because its turned the DMA off, as it says. I had to shutdown (shutdown -r now) Linux/Debian, reboot, and things are back to normal speed. Because its turned the DMA on again. I doubt it is temperature related because the room is in the 60s and 70s degrees(F) and computer wasn't working intensely (e.g., surfing the Web). Yeah, most likely just a bad cable. Also, I recalled before these problems started, my motherboard (CMOS and BIOS) didn't see both of my primary master drives (both HDDs: hda and hdb), but can see my secondary master (DVD-ROM drive = hdc). More evidence of a bad cable to the hard drives. I had to open the case, but didn't see anything wrong. I wiggled the cable ends for the HDDs. And that likely got it going again. Those cable piercing connectors can bend one of the things that bite the cable when the cable is made and can get loose if you reef the cable off the drive or motherboard end by pulling on the ribbon etc. If its a round cable, its ****ed by design. I booted my machine up and it seemed fine for a few days/a week and then these errors came up (not disconnections). I ran smartctl utility on both of my HDDs for information and results: http://pastebin.ca/930776 ... My full system specifications can be found he http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt (secondary/backup machine). Does that mean my decade old Quantum 6.4 GB HDD (already made a backup just in case) is finally dying? Nope, just the cable. Or is it something else? Yep, the cable. |
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On 2008-03-06, Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.periphs.hdd Ignoramus24341 wrote: Your hdb is VERY old (over 6 years of actual running hours). It does not seem to support SMART error logging, so you do not know what is wrong with it. I think that it is dying based on your errror messages from console. I would make sure to run a backup ASAP, like right now. Already did onto hda since that's the only HDD I have to back up to). Now, how come before these errors came up my motherboard couldn't see BOTH HDDs? Is that related or just a coincident? I would buy a USB drive (I recommend Western Digital from Newegg). I am not sure about your second question. i On 2008-03-06, Ant wrote: Please see the link I provided earlier (http://pastebin.ca/930776). It has all the information. In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Ignoramus24341 wrote: Probably. What does smartctl --all /dev/hda say? (and hdb) Does it report any errors? i On 2008-03-06, Ant wrote: Hello. For about two weeks ago, I had two of these incidents (13 days apart between them): hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success From this, my old Linux/Debian system became slow and unresponsive due to high CPU usage (e.g., 7.xx in top). I had to shutdown (shutdown -r now) Linux/Debian, reboot, and things are back to normal speed. I doubt it is temperature related because the room is in the 60s and 70s degrees(F) and computer wasn't working intensely (e.g., surfing the Web). Also, I recalled before these problems started, my motherboard (CMOS and BIOS) didn't see both of my primary master drives (both HDDs: hda and hdb), but can see my secondary master (DVD-ROM drive = hdc). I had to open the case, but didn't see anything wrong. I wiggled the cable ends for the HDDs. I booted my machine up and it seemed fine for a few days/a week and then these errors came up (not disconnections). I ran smartctl utility on both of my HDDs for information and results: http://pastebin.ca/930776 ... My full system specifications can be found he http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt (secondary/backup machine). Does that mean my decade old Quantum 6.4 GB HDD (already made a backup just in case) is finally dying? Or is it something else? Thank you in advance. |
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Is my HDD dying or something else from these errors and symptoms?
For about two weeks ago, I had two of these incidents (13 days apart between them):
hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x41 hdb: DMA timeout error hdb: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hdb: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success Thats normally just a bad cable. And since the problem is seen with more than one hard drive, its almost certainly just a bad cable. Can be a bad hard drive controller on the motherboard etc but thats much less likely. From this, my old Linux/Debian system became slow and unresponsive due to high CPU usage (e.g., 7.xx in top). Because its turned the DMA off, as it says. I wonder if I can re-enable DMA without rebooting. I think hdparm controls that? I had to shutdown (shutdown -r now) Linux/Debian, reboot, and things are back to normal speed. Because its turned the DMA on again. So why did my DMA go off? As a precaution? I doubt it is temperature related because the room is in the 60s and 70s degrees(F) and computer wasn't working intensely (e.g., surfing the Web). Yeah, most likely just a bad cable. Also, I recalled before these problems started, my motherboard (CMOS and BIOS) didn't see both of my primary master drives (both HDDs: hda and hdb), but can see my secondary master (DVD-ROM drive = hdc). More evidence of a bad cable to the hard drives. I had to open the case, but didn't see anything wrong. I wiggled the cable ends for the HDDs. And that likely got it going again. Those cable piercing connectors can bend one of the things that bite the cable when the cable is made and can get loose if you reef the cable off the drive or motherboard end by pulling on the ribbon etc. Hmm, I have those old fashion flat cables. I guess I will go replace it. I assume replacing the whole ribbon cable is enough? I didn't see how many there were in my mini-tower case (hard to see and it's crowded). I assume two are in total for primary and secondary drives. If its a round cable, its ****ed by design. Yeah, I don't have those. My other PC has a SATA cable that are round. I booted my machine up and it seemed fine for a few days/a week and then these errors came up (not disconnections). I ran smartctl utility on both of my HDDs for information and results: http://pastebin.ca/930776 ... My full system specifications can be found he http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt (secondary/backup machine). Does that mean my decade old Quantum 6.4 GB HDD (already made a backup just in case) is finally dying? Nope, just the cable. Hmm, OK! I will go try the cable first then! Or is it something else? Yep, the cable. -- "All the best work is done the way that ants do things -- by tiny but untiring and regular additions." --Lafcadio Hearn /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Ant @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( ) |
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Is my HDD dying or something else from these errors and symptoms?
Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.periphs.hdd Ignoramus24341 wrote: Your hdb is VERY old (over 6 years of actual running hours). It does not seem to support SMART error logging, so you do not know what is wrong with it. I think that it is dying based on your errror messages from console. I would make sure to run a backup ASAP, like right now. Already did onto hda since that's the only HDD I have to back up to). Now, how come before these errors came up my motherboard couldn't see BOTH HDDs? Is that related or just a coincident? You say hda and hdb, so they are on the same controller/cable. You know, one blocking/stalled drive can block the whole ide bus? You should consider moving the 2nd drive to the 2nd ide cable, often enough there were incompatibilities between different harddrive brands. -- vista policy violation: Microsoft optical mouse found penguin patterns on mousepad. Partition scan in progress to remove offending incompatible products. Reactivate MS software. Linux 2.6.24. [LinuxCounter#295241,ICQ#4918962] |
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