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rtn66u - help
Dan wrote:
I have looked at the UK asus rtn66u website, it no longer shows any fimware update url. But the USA one at http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66U/#support_Download and to http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66...Desk_Download/ allows for firmware update, which trhe latest is FW_RT_N66U_30043803264.ZIP above url say that I can download from global, only my connection speed matters but the file will be the same. Can I use the above named zip file to update my rtn66u? http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66...Desk_Download/ "Products certified by the Federal Communications Commission and Industry Canada will be distributed in the United States and Canada. Please visit the ASUS USA and ASUS Canada websites for information about locally available products." The firmware issued to you, should be by geolocation. The web page should contain references to communications bodies like OFCOM in the notes section (if the geolocation figures out you are physically in the UK). Channel allocation is slightly different around the world. You have a channel 13 on your Wifi, and we don't here. The license-free terms of usage are strictly defined by the radio spectrum being used. If I brought your computer here, and it was using channel 13, then I'd be in violation of the DOC rules. Not that anyone would notice. I expect accidental channel 13 usage happens all the time. You could try looking inside the ZIP file, for any README file that might say what countries it is for. Paul |
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On Wed, 18 May 2016 23:07:23 -0400, Paul wrote:
Dan wrote: I have looked at the UK asus rtn66u website, it no longer shows any fimware update url. But the USA one at http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66U/#support_Download and to http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66...Desk_Download/ allows for firmware update, which trhe latest is FW_RT_N66U_30043803264.ZIP above url say that I can download from global, only my connection speed matters but the file will be the same. Can I use the above named zip file to update my rtn66u? http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66...Desk_Download/ "Products certified by the Federal Communications Commission and Industry Canada will be distributed in the United States and Canada. Please visit the ASUS USA and ASUS Canada websites for information about locally available products." The firmware issued to you, should be by geolocation. The web page should contain references to communications bodies like OFCOM in the notes section (if the geolocation figures out you are physically in the UK). Channel allocation is slightly different around the world. You have a channel 13 on your Wifi, and we don't here. The license-free terms of usage are strictly defined by the radio spectrum being used. If I brought your computer here, and it was using channel 13, then I'd be in violation of the DOC rules. Not that anyone would notice. I expect accidental channel 13 usage happens all the time. You could try looking inside the ZIP file, for any README file that might say what countries it is for. Paul Cheers Paul, the zip file contains only the firmware RT-N66U_3.0.0.4_380_3264-g79f6bde.trx and no readme. By your description I cannot use the update for my UK rtn66u. So what can I do then? |
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Dan wrote:
Cheers Paul, the zip file contains only the firmware RT-N66U_3.0.0.4_380_3264-g79f6bde.trx and no readme. By your description I cannot use the update for my UK rtn66u. So what can I do then? http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66...Desk_Download/ Try setting the OS to "Others". In the picture here, I'm seeing a few more firmwares. http://s32.postimg.org/v1u5w9cqt/others.gif I got the hint from this FAQ page (noticed while I was wandering around in there). Since there are so many FAQs, it takes persistence to find anything really interesting. http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010600/ There is even source code (implying the software base is FOSS and the GPL says the source must be released if it is used). But I still don't know how the country-specifics are handled. The release notes don't seem to mention it. Paul |
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On Thu, 19 May 2016 03:16:22 -0400, Paul wrote:
Dan wrote: Cheers Paul, the zip file contains only the firmware RT-N66U_3.0.0.4_380_3264-g79f6bde.trx and no readme. By your description I cannot use the update for my UK rtn66u. So what can I do then? http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66...Desk_Download/ Try setting the OS to "Others". In the picture here, I'm seeing a few more firmwares. http://s32.postimg.org/v1u5w9cqt/others.gif I got the hint from this FAQ page (noticed while I was wandering around in there). Since there are so many FAQs, it takes persistence to find anything really interesting. http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010600/ There is even source code (implying the software base is FOSS and the GPL says the source must be released if it is used). But I still don't know how the country-specifics are handled. The release notes don't seem to mention it. Paul Hello Paul,, I took a look at 'others' at http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010600/ Driver & Tools There are 3 download servers available on ASUS Download Site - Global, China and P2P. Each server provides exact the same content no matter where you download from, except for the speed which you are connected to. It shows Firmware (14) Version 3.0.0.4.380.3264 ASUS RT-N66U Firmware version 3.0.0.4.380.3264 ASUS has been dedicated to cooperate with third party developers to come up with more innovative features. To comply with regulatory amendments, we have modified firmware verification rule to ensure better firmware quality. This version is not compatible with all previously released ASUS firmware and uncertified third party firmware. It does not mention country specific but "Driver & Tools There are 3 download servers available on ASUS Download Site - Global, China and P2P. Each server provides exact the same content no matter where you download from, except for the speed which you are connected to." Does this mean that this firmware can be used for any part of the world? |
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Dan wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2016 03:16:22 -0400, Paul wrote: Dan wrote: Cheers Paul, the zip file contains only the firmware RT-N66U_3.0.0.4_380_3264-g79f6bde.trx and no readme. By your description I cannot use the update for my UK rtn66u. So what can I do then? http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66...Desk_Download/ Try setting the OS to "Others". In the picture here, I'm seeing a few more firmwares. http://s32.postimg.org/v1u5w9cqt/others.gif I got the hint from this FAQ page (noticed while I was wandering around in there). Since there are so many FAQs, it takes persistence to find anything really interesting. http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010600/ There is even source code (implying the software base is FOSS and the GPL says the source must be released if it is used). But I still don't know how the country-specifics are handled. The release notes don't seem to mention it. Paul Hello Paul,, I took a look at 'others' at http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010600/ Driver & Tools There are 3 download servers available on ASUS Download Site - Global, China and P2P. Each server provides exact the same content no matter where you download from, except for the speed which you are connected to. It shows Firmware (14) Version 3.0.0.4.380.3264 ASUS RT-N66U Firmware version 3.0.0.4.380.3264 ASUS has been dedicated to cooperate with third party developers to come up with more innovative features. To comply with regulatory amendments, we have modified firmware verification rule to ensure better firmware quality. This version is not compatible with all previously released ASUS firmware and uncertified third party firmware. It does not mention country specific but "Driver & Tools There are 3 download servers available on ASUS Download Site - Global, China and P2P. Each server provides exact the same content no matter where you download from, except for the speed which you are connected to." Does this mean that this firmware can be used for any part of the world? I expect we're getting the same download version. You can compare the details on the copy you get. http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wir...732.1463641536 Version 3.0.0.4.380.3264 30,590,052 bytes f68d0653374c013a7b5216f0ce26e47f *FW_RT_N66U_30043803264.ZIP --- MD5SUM And this statement: "To comply with regulatory amendments, we have modified firmware verification rule to ensure..." To ensure something. My guess would be, the router has some mechanism to know it should turn off Channel 13 in North America. But such statements don't explain how the router knows what to do. ******* There are third party firmwares for routers. And some of those expose the mechanism the router uses for "remembering details about itself". Reading sites like this, can teach you more about how the innards of the router work. I'm not recommending you switch to stuff like this, on a whim. Some risk is involved. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_TFTP_Flash I found a page for your device here. Maybe this will help fill in some knowledge gaps, as to whether using a current Asus firmware is useful or restrictive or whatever. The "K2" or "K3" references could be Linux kernel versions, with the software built on that (stripped down) Linux kernel. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_RT-N66U http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtop...sc&st art=450 And here's a definition of CFE. I still don't understand it, but here it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common...re_Environment ******* One of the reasons a user might use a firmware like that, is for the size of the connection table. Some routers in the past, didn't dump zombie connections fast enough. And if you use BitTorrent all night long, it eats up thousands of entries in the connection table. Eventually resulting in the router needing to be rebooted. So for a Torrent user, there are "good" routers and "bad" routers, the bad ones having insufficient connection table size, or generally not being able to tolerate the usage pattern of Torrent all that well (everything stops at some point). It's possible your Asus doesn't need any help at all in this matter. But, connection table size might be an incentive to change things. So when you use the latest Asus firmware, I think it's going to "police" the channel allocation all by itself, to be compliant with the FCC/DOC/OFCOM rules, whatever they are. Maybe some NVRAM loaded at the factory, declares your unit was sold in the UK or Europe. Paul |
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On Fri, 20 May 2016 02:20:44 -0400, Paul wrote:
Dan wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2016 03:16:22 -0400, Paul wrote: Dan wrote: Cheers Paul, the zip file contains only the firmware RT-N66U_3.0.0.4_380_3264-g79f6bde.trx and no readme. By your description I cannot use the update for my UK rtn66u. So what can I do then? http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66...Desk_Download/ Try setting the OS to "Others". In the picture here, I'm seeing a few more firmwares. http://s32.postimg.org/v1u5w9cqt/others.gif I got the hint from this FAQ page (noticed while I was wandering around in there). Since there are so many FAQs, it takes persistence to find anything really interesting. http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010600/ There is even source code (implying the software base is FOSS and the GPL says the source must be released if it is used). But I still don't know how the country-specifics are handled. The release notes don't seem to mention it. Paul Hello Paul,, I took a look at 'others' at http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1010600/ Driver & Tools There are 3 download servers available on ASUS Download Site - Global, China and P2P. Each server provides exact the same content no matter where you download from, except for the speed which you are connected to. It shows Firmware (14) Version 3.0.0.4.380.3264 ASUS RT-N66U Firmware version 3.0.0.4.380.3264 ASUS has been dedicated to cooperate with third party developers to come up with more innovative features. To comply with regulatory amendments, we have modified firmware verification rule to ensure better firmware quality. This version is not compatible with all previously released ASUS firmware and uncertified third party firmware. It does not mention country specific but "Driver & Tools There are 3 download servers available on ASUS Download Site - Global, China and P2P. Each server provides exact the same content no matter where you download from, except for the speed which you are connected to." Does this mean that this firmware can be used for any part of the world? I expect we're getting the same download version. You can compare the details on the copy you get. http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wir...732.1463641536 Version 3.0.0.4.380.3264 30,590,052 bytes f68d0653374c013a7b5216f0ce26e47f *FW_RT_N66U_30043803264.ZIP --- MD5SUM And this statement: "To comply with regulatory amendments, we have modified firmware verification rule to ensure..." To ensure something. My guess would be, the router has some mechanism to know it should turn off Channel 13 in North America. But such statements don't explain how the router knows what to do. ******* There are third party firmwares for routers. And some of those expose the mechanism the router uses for "remembering details about itself". Reading sites like this, can teach you more about how the innards of the router work. I'm not recommending you switch to stuff like this, on a whim. Some risk is involved. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_TFTP_Flash I found a page for your device here. Maybe this will help fill in some knowledge gaps, as to whether using a current Asus firmware is useful or restrictive or whatever. The "K2" or "K3" references could be Linux kernel versions, with the software built on that (stripped down) Linux kernel. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_RT-N66U http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtop...sc&st art=450 And here's a definition of CFE. I still don't understand it, but here it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common...re_Environment ******* One of the reasons a user might use a firmware like that, is for the size of the connection table. Some routers in the past, didn't dump zombie connections fast enough. And if you use BitTorrent all night long, it eats up thousands of entries in the connection table. Eventually resulting in the router needing to be rebooted. So for a Torrent user, there are "good" routers and "bad" routers, the bad ones having insufficient connection table size, or generally not being able to tolerate the usage pattern of Torrent all that well (everything stops at some point). It's possible your Asus doesn't need any help at all in this matter. But, connection table size might be an incentive to change things. So when you use the latest Asus firmware, I think it's going to "police" the channel allocation all by itself, to be compliant with the FCC/DOC/OFCOM rules, whatever they are. Maybe some NVRAM loaded at the factory, declares your unit was sold in the UK or Europe. Paul Thanks a lot Paul. I will look at your extensive post & try to e mail Asus. Last time I left a message on their contact me website it took about 3 months to get back to me. They make great hardware but their customer service is exceptionally poor. |
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