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Old November 29th 03, 05:16 AM
Tanya
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Default bad battery -> boot loop

hello,
not sure whether this is for win 98 or he
100mhz; don't know chipSet etc... ran win98 SE S.L.O.W.L.Y. so i
replaced it w/ another (temporally related) pc...
this 1 worked and i did not touch it until testing it: the li battery
had died and it gave a reset cmos settings... rpl'd the battery, reRan
cmos settings and it's displaying lots of errors (fdc failure;
hdc(primary) failure; diskette boot failure...
current status: with several PROVEN boot disks: "non-system disk replace
hit any key to continue"...this would be continuing forever...
since the cmos was already *lost* and i only rpl'd the battery iow did
not touch any other hw can it be shocked into recalling how to read a
PROVEN boot disk?
i thank you in advance
(this is an amiBIOS 96)


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Old November 29th 03, 01:53 PM
Ralph Mowery
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100mhz; don't know chipSet etc... ran win98 SE S.L.O.W.L.Y. so i
replaced it w/ another (temporally related) pc...
this 1 worked and i did not touch it until testing it: the li battery
had died and it gave a reset cmos settings... rpl'd the battery, reRan
cmos settings and it's displaying lots of errors (fdc failure;
hdc(primary) failure; diskette boot failure...
current status: with several PROVEN boot disks: "non-system disk replace
hit any key to continue"...this would be continuing forever...
since the cmos was already *lost* and i only rpl'd the battery iow did
not touch any other hw can it be shocked into recalling how to read a
PROVEN boot disk?
i thank you in advance
(this is an amiBIOS 96)


From the wording I can not tell exectally what you are saying. When you say
you reran the cmos settings, do you mean you put them in by hand ? When the
battery is changed your computer may loose all the settings in the cmos.
Many computers require that you press the Delete key as the computer starts
us (or a combination of other keys depending on the computer). YOu then
chnage the cmos settings to how your computer is. You will usually see on
the monitor something like 'press F1 to continue'. If this comes up you
need to go to the cmos and set it like it should be for your computer.

If this does not help, check to see if maybe you did not bump the hard drive
and floppy drive cables and they are not all the way in.



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Old November 29th 03, 08:23 PM
Tanya
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Ralph Mowery wrote:

100mhz; don't know chipSet etc... ran win98 SE S.L.O.W.L.Y. so i
replaced it w/ another (temporally related) pc...
this 1 worked and i did not touch it until testing it: the li battery
had died and it gave a reset cmos settings... rpl'd the battery, reRan
cmos settings and it's displaying lots of errors (fdc failure;
hdc(primary) failure; diskette boot failure...
current status: with several PROVEN boot disks: "non-system disk replace
hit any key to continue"...this would be continuing forever...
since the cmos was already *lost* and i only rpl'd the battery iow did
not touch any other hw can it be shocked into recalling how to read a
PROVEN boot disk?
i thank you in advance
(this is an amiBIOS 96)


From the wording I can not tell exectally what you are saying. When you say
you reran the cmos settings, do you mean you put them in by hand ? When the
battery is changed your computer may loose all the settings in the cmos.
Many computers require that you press the Delete key as the computer starts
us (or a combination of other keys depending on the computer). YOu then
chnage the cmos settings to how your computer is. You will usually see on
the monitor something like 'press F1 to continue'. If this comes up you
need to go to the cmos and set it like it should be for your computer.

If this does not help, check to see if maybe you did not bump the hard drive
and floppy drive cables and they are not all the way in.


hi and thanks for even reading the question.
what i'd wanted to ask was that this pc's battery was dead when i hooked it up
(no one has the settings) i got a new battery and it boots to the "run setup"
screen and keeps asking for a diskette which i have tried but it continues
saying "non system disk replace and press any key"
(i've tried several boot disks that do work)
i need to get past this to even see the options
(this is a AMIBIOS)
(a pentium -- ?100 mhz)
thanks again!
sincerely
Tanya



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Old November 29th 03, 10:00 PM
Ralph Mowery
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what i'd wanted to ask was that this pc's battery was dead when i hooked
it up
(no one has the settings) i got a new battery and it boots to the "run

setup"
screen and keeps asking for a diskette which i have tried but it continues
saying "non system disk replace and press any key"
(i've tried several boot disks that do work)
i need to get past this to even see the options
(this is a AMIBIOS)
(a pentium -- ?100 mhz)
thanks again!
sincerely
Tanya


It still seems that you need to go to the cmos and set it for what you have.
The computer may be defaulting to a differant type of drive setting ( such
as a 5 1/4 inch ) . This will need to be changed so it will reconise the 3
1/2 inch disk you probably have in the computer. To do this as the computer
starts up you press the Delete key on many computers, on others it could be
many differant combinations of keys.

I would not think this is the case, but some computers did come with a very
special boot disk that you must have to do the settings in the cmos. You
will not be able to use any normal boot disk. If this is a brand name
computer, look on their website and see if you can find their special boot
disk.


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Old November 30th 03, 03:11 PM
CBFalconer
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Ralph Mowery wrote:

100mhz; don't know chipSet etc... ran win98 SE S.L.O.W.L.Y. so i
replaced it w/ another (temporally related) pc...
this 1 worked and i did not touch it until testing it: the li battery
had died and it gave a reset cmos settings... rpl'd the battery, reRan
cmos settings and it's displaying lots of errors (fdc failure;
hdc(primary) failure; diskette boot failure...
current status: with several PROVEN boot disks: "non-system disk replace
hit any key to continue"...this would be continuing forever...
since the cmos was already *lost* and i only rpl'd the battery iow did
not touch any other hw can it be shocked into recalling how to read a
PROVEN boot disk?
i thank you in advance
(this is an amiBIOS 96)


From the wording I can not tell exectally what you are saying. When you say
you reran the cmos settings, do you mean you put them in by hand ? When the


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expect others to go to the effort of decoding it for the pure
pleasure of assisting them!

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Old December 3rd 03, 05:23 PM
Robearet
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Sometimes the motherboard manufacturer will have a manual for that model
board on their website and the manual sometimes contains the basic cmos
setting...

"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
...
what i'd wanted to ask was that this pc's battery was dead when i hooked

it up
(no one has the settings) i got a new battery and it boots to the "run

setup"
screen and keeps asking for a diskette which i have tried but it

continues
saying "non system disk replace and press any key"
(i've tried several boot disks that do work)
i need to get past this to even see the options
(this is a AMIBIOS)
(a pentium -- ?100 mhz)
thanks again!
sincerely
Tanya


It still seems that you need to go to the cmos and set it for what you

have.
The computer may be defaulting to a differant type of drive setting ( such
as a 5 1/4 inch ) . This will need to be changed so it will reconise the

3
1/2 inch disk you probably have in the computer. To do this as the

computer
starts up you press the Delete key on many computers, on others it could

be
many differant combinations of keys.

I would not think this is the case, but some computers did come with a

very
special boot disk that you must have to do the settings in the cmos. You
will not be able to use any normal boot disk. If this is a brand name
computer, look on their website and see if you can find their special boot
disk.




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Old December 6th 03, 08:40 PM
Tanya
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Robearet wrote:

Sometimes the motherboard manufacturer will have a manual for that model
board on their website and the manual sometimes contains the basic cmos
setting...

"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
...
what i'd wanted to ask was that this pc's battery was dead when i hooked

it up
(no one has the settings) i got a new battery and it boots to the "run

setup"
screen and keeps asking for a diskette which i have tried but it

continues
saying "non system disk replace and press any key"
(i've tried several boot disks that do work)
i need to get past this to even see the options
(this is a AMIBIOS)
(a pentium -- ?100 mhz)
thanks again!
sincerely
Tanya


It still seems that you need to go to the cmos and set it for what you

have.
The computer may be defaulting to a differant type of drive setting ( such
as a 5 1/4 inch ) . This will need to be changed so it will reconise the

3
1/2 inch disk you probably have in the computer. To do this as the

computer
starts up you press the Delete key on many computers, on others it could

be
many differant combinations of keys.

I would not think this is the case, but some computers did come with a

very
special boot disk that you must have to do the settings in the cmos. You
will not be able to use any normal boot disk. If this is a brand name
computer, look on their website and see if you can find their special boot
disk.



thank you, Ralph and Robearet,
i haven't identified the board yet but will check on the pc manufacturer's and
board maker's Web sites
greatly appreciate your advice and replies!
sincerely
Tanya



 




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