Need a new home printer

I am considering a new printer HP Deskjet F4480 which uses series HP
60 cartridges.

Bulk ink is sold for these cartridges. The question is: do these
refill reliably or when the level is "empty" would the printer be
inhibited to print? I seemed to have that kind of problem with my
recent new 97/96 cartridges. (That printer now has mechanically
failed.)

Also, I have some bulk ink for the 96/97 cartridges. I wonder if this
ink would be compatible with the 60 series. I can ask the ink
supplier that question. (I have a little color left over but still
have 8 oz of pigmented black.)

Otherwise, this printer/scanner looks good for my home needs.

The retailer also has printers using the 940 series (or was it 920 or
960) where there there were four separate cartridges for color and
black. Are these refillable?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Dave C.

On Apr 15, 1:42*am, buddy b wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:33:29 -0700 (PDT), "Dave C."
wrote:





I am considering a new printer HP Deskjet F4480 which uses series HP
60 cartridges.

Bulk ink is sold for these cartridges. *The question is: do these
refill reliably or when the level is "empty" would the printer be
inhibited to print? *I seemed to have that kind of problem with my
recent new 97/96 cartridges. *(That printer now has mechanically
failed.)

Also, I have some bulk ink for the 96/97 cartridges. *I wonder if this
ink would be compatible with the 60 series. *I can ask the ink
supplier that question. *(I have a little color left over but still
have 8 oz of pigmented black.)

Otherwise, this printer/scanner looks good for my home needs.

The retailer also has printers using the 940 series (or was it 920 or
960) where there there were four separate cartridges for color and
black. *Are these refillable?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Dave C.

I like the Lexmark series all in one 805 and 605(cheaper.) at BJ`s.
Bought both recently. 605 was $99.95, 150 on website. 805 IS NOT ON SALE
NOW.

They sell there for $50 to 100 cheaper than Lexmark sells them for on
their web site.
They are also very reasonable on ink that can be ordered from their web
site shipping free with the mailers furnished.
Both these printers are wired/wireless and duplex print, among other
things.
* * * * Regards *
* * * * buddy b

I never thought of Lexmark but will take a look at them.

Thanks,

Dave C.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:33:29 -0700 (PDT), "Dave C."
wrote:

I am considering a new printer HP Deskjet F4480 which uses series HP
60 cartridges.

Bulk ink is sold for these cartridges. The question is: do these
refill reliably or when the level is "empty" would the printer be
inhibited to print? I seemed to have that kind of problem with my
recent new 97/96 cartridges. (That printer now has mechanically
failed.)

Also, I have some bulk ink for the 96/97 cartridges. I wonder if this
ink would be compatible with the 60 series. I can ask the ink
supplier that question. (I have a little color left over but still
have 8 oz of pigmented black.)

Otherwise, this printer/scanner looks good for my home needs.

The retailer also has printers using the 940 series (or was it 920 or
960) where there there were four separate cartridges for color and
black. Are these refillable?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Dave C.



If you are going to refill the cartridges don't let them get empty.
refill when half empty as cartridge could be damaged if the ink runs
out.

That is the way I lose a cartridge that I have been refilling

On Apr 15, 7:26*pm, DJT wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:33:29 -0700 (PDT), "Dave C."





wrote:
I am considering a new printer HP Deskjet F4480 which uses series HP
60 cartridges.

Bulk ink is sold for these cartridges. *The question is: do these
refill reliably or when the level is "empty" would the printer be
inhibited to print? *I seemed to have that kind of problem with my
recent new 97/96 cartridges. *(That printer now has mechanically
failed.)

Also, I have some bulk ink for the 96/97 cartridges. *I wonder if this
ink would be compatible with the 60 series. *I can ask the ink
supplier that question. *(I have a little color left over but still
have 8 oz of pigmented black.)

Otherwise, this printer/scanner looks good for my home needs.

The retailer also has printers using the 940 series (or was it 920 or
960) where there there were four separate cartridges for color and
black. *Are these refillable?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Dave C.

If you are going to refill the cartridges don't let them get empty.
refill when half empty as cartridge could be damaged if the ink runs
out.

That is the way I lose a cartridge that I have been refilling

Thanks, will do. Tomorrow I am going to pick up the F4480.

Regards, Dave C.

Some of the HP (and other) printers will be permanently damaged if air
gets into the print system. On these printers, if you are refilling
cartridges (which, in these cases, are just ink tanks), do not let them
get completely empty (genuine OEM cartridges will stop printing before
this happens, but refillable units "cheat" this system, which involves a
chip in the cartridge and sensors in the printer).

It's not safe to assume that ink from one printer/cartridge series will
work in a different series. Some of the inks are pigment based, some
are dye based, and there are [SIGNIFICANT] chemical differences between
the inks in different print systems.

The safest units to refill are those where the PRINTHEAD is part of the
cartridge. Refilling cartridges in which the printhead is permanent is
dangerous and I don't recommend it. It's too easy to screw up the
printer, and you have no way of knowing the actual quality and
compatibility of the stuff you are putting into the printer.

There is more going on in an inkjet printer than meets the eye, and
things are not as obvious as they seem. For one example, some 3rd party
inks have a composition that destroys printheads not at once, but over a
period of a year or so. And people don't understand that the reason
that HP shuts down printing with an "expired" cartridge is because the
solvents do, slowly evaporate from new, unused ink cartridges (which are
NOT sealed airtight), and this raises the viscosity of the ink, leading
to clogging and printhead destruction. It's not JUST to get you to buy
more cartridges.

If you shop carefully, you can save a ton of money on ink. For example,
join OfficeMax's "perks club" and they have sales and promotions that
can cut the cost of ink far more than in half. This may make more sense
than refilling.

Dave C. wrote:
I am considering a new printer HP Deskjet F4480 which uses series HP
60 cartridges.

Bulk ink is sold for these cartridges. The question is: do these
refill reliably or when the level is "empty" would the printer be
inhibited to print? I seemed to have that kind of problem with my
recent new 97/96 cartridges. (That printer now has mechanically
failed.)

Also, I have some bulk ink for the 96/97 cartridges. I wonder if this
ink would be compatible with the 60 series. I can ask the ink
supplier that question. (I have a little color left over but still
have 8 oz of pigmented black.)

Otherwise, this printer/scanner looks good for my home needs.

The retailer also has printers using the 940 series (or was it 920 or
960) where there there were four separate cartridges for color and
black. Are these refillable?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Dave C.

On Apr 17, 2:25*pm, Barry Watzman wrote:
Some of the HP (and other) printers will be permanently damaged if air
gets into the print system. *On these printers, if you are refilling
cartridges (which, in these cases, are just ink tanks), do not let them
get completely empty (genuine OEM cartridges will stop printing before
this happens, but refillable units "cheat" this system, which involves a
chip in the cartridge and sensors in the printer).

It's not safe to assume that ink from one printer/cartridge series will
work in a different series. *Some of the inks are pigment based, some
are dye based, and there are [SIGNIFICANT] chemical differences between
the inks in different print systems.

The safest units to refill are those where the PRINTHEAD is part of the
cartridge. *Refilling cartridges in which the printhead is permanent is
dangerous and I don't recommend it. *It's too easy to screw up the
printer, and you have no way of knowing the actual quality and
compatibility of the stuff you are putting into the printer.

There is more going on in an inkjet printer than meets the eye, and
things are not as obvious as they seem. *For one example, some 3rd party
inks have a composition that destroys printheads not at once, but over a
period of a year or so. *And people don't understand that the reason
that HP shuts down printing with an "expired" cartridge is because the
solvents do, slowly evaporate from new, unused ink cartridges (which are
NOT sealed airtight), and this raises the viscosity of the ink, leading
to clogging and printhead destruction. *It's not JUST to get you to buy
more cartridges.

If you shop carefully, you can save a ton of money on ink. *For example,
join OfficeMax's "perks club" and they have sales and promotions that
can cut the cost of ink far more than in half. *This may make more sense
than refilling.



Dave C. wrote:
I am considering a new printer HP Deskjet F4480 which uses series HP
60 cartridges.

Bulk ink is sold for these cartridges. *The question is: do these
refill reliably or when the level is "empty" would the printer be
inhibited to print? *I seemed to have that kind of problem with my
recent new 97/96 cartridges. *(That printer now has mechanically
failed.)

Also, I have some bulk ink for the 96/97 cartridges. *I wonder if this
ink would be compatible with the 60 series. *I can ask the ink
supplier that question. *(I have a little color left over but still
have 8 oz of pigmented black.)

Otherwise, this printer/scanner looks good for my home needs.

The retailer also has printers using the 940 series (or was it 920 or
960) where there there were four separate cartridges for color and
black. *Are these refillable?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Dave C.

Thanks, Barry, for all that informations. The cartridges in this
printer head part of the cartridge. And I will be cautious about the
bulk inks.

Regards,

Dave C.

I use HP57 colour in one printer and HP95 in another.

The tri-colour inks are not compatible.

The black cartridges HP56 & HP98 both use the same ink and are
compatible.

The colour ink is more likely to be different between printers

DJT

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:25:06 -0400, Barry Watzman
wrote:

Some of the HP (and other) printers will be permanently damaged if air
gets into the print system. On these printers, if you are refilling
cartridges (which, in these cases, are just ink tanks), do not let them
get completely empty (genuine OEM cartridges will stop printing before
this happens, but refillable units "cheat" this system, which involves a
chip in the cartridge and sensors in the printer).

It's not safe to assume that ink from one printer/cartridge series will
work in a different series. Some of the inks are pigment based, some
are dye based, and there are [SIGNIFICANT] chemical differences between
the inks in different print systems.

The safest units to refill are those where the PRINTHEAD is part of the
cartridge. Refilling cartridges in which the printhead is permanent is
dangerous and I don't recommend it. It's too easy to screw up the
printer, and you have no way of knowing the actual quality and
compatibility of the stuff you are putting into the printer.

There is more going on in an inkjet printer than meets the eye, and
things are not as obvious as they seem. For one example, some 3rd party
inks have a composition that destroys printheads not at once, but over a
period of a year or so. And people don't understand that the reason
that HP shuts down printing with an "expired" cartridge is because the
solvents do, slowly evaporate from new, unused ink cartridges (which are
NOT sealed airtight), and this raises the viscosity of the ink, leading
to clogging and printhead destruction. It's not JUST to get you to buy
more cartridges.

If you shop carefully, you can save a ton of money on ink. For example,
join OfficeMax's "perks club" and they have sales and promotions that
can cut the cost of ink far more than in half. This may make more sense
than refilling.

Dave C. wrote:
I am considering a new printer HP Deskjet F4480 which uses series HP
60 cartridges.

Bulk ink is sold for these cartridges. The question is: do these
refill reliably or when the level is "empty" would the printer be
inhibited to print? I seemed to have that kind of problem with my
recent new 97/96 cartridges. (That printer now has mechanically
failed.)

Also, I have some bulk ink for the 96/97 cartridges. I wonder if this
ink would be compatible with the 60 series. I can ask the ink
supplier that question. (I have a little color left over but still
have 8 oz of pigmented black.)

Otherwise, this printer/scanner looks good for my home needs.

The retailer also has printers using the 940 series (or was it 920 or
960) where there there were four separate cartridges for color and
black. Are these refillable?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Dave C.

On Apr 18, 1:30*am, DJT wrote:
I use HP57 colour in one printer and HP95 in another.

The tri-colour inks are not compatible.

The black cartridges HP56 & HP98 both use the same ink and are
compatible.

The colour ink is more likely to be different between printers

DJT

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:25:06 -0400, Barry Watzman



wrote:
Some of the HP (and other) printers will be permanently damaged if air
gets into the print system. *On these printers, if you are refilling
cartridges (which, in these cases, are just ink tanks), do not let them
get completely empty (genuine OEM cartridges will stop printing before
this happens, but refillable units "cheat" this system, which involves a
chip in the cartridge and sensors in the printer).

It's not safe to assume that ink from one printer/cartridge series will
work in a different series. *Some of the inks are pigment based, some
are dye based, and there are [SIGNIFICANT] chemical differences between
the inks in different print systems.

The safest units to refill are those where the PRINTHEAD is part of the
cartridge. *Refilling cartridges in which the printhead is permanent is
dangerous and I don't recommend it. *It's too easy to screw up the
printer, and you have no way of knowing the actual quality and
compatibility of the stuff you are putting into the printer.

There is more going on in an inkjet printer than meets the eye, and
things are not as obvious as they seem. *For one example, some 3rd party
inks have a composition that destroys printheads not at once, but over a
period of a year or so. *And people don't understand that the reason
that HP shuts down printing with an "expired" cartridge is because the
solvents do, slowly evaporate from new, unused ink cartridges (which are
NOT sealed airtight), and this raises the viscosity of the ink, leading
to clogging and printhead destruction. *It's not JUST to get you to buy
more cartridges.

If you shop carefully, you can save a ton of money on ink. *For example,
join OfficeMax's "perks club" and they have sales and promotions that
can cut the cost of ink far more than in half. *This may make more sense
than refilling.

Dave C. wrote:
I am considering a new printer HP Deskjet F4480 which uses series HP
60 cartridges.

Bulk ink is sold for these cartridges. *The question is: do these
refill reliably or when the level is "empty" would the printer be
inhibited to print? *I seemed to have that kind of problem with my
recent new 97/96 cartridges. *(That printer now has mechanically
failed.)

Also, I have some bulk ink for the 96/97 cartridges. *I wonder if this
ink would be compatible with the 60 series. *I can ask the ink
supplier that question. *(I have a little color left over but still
have 8 oz of pigmented black.)

Otherwise, this printer/scanner looks good for my home needs.

The retailer also has printers using the 940 series (or was it 920 or
960) where there there were four separate cartridges for color and
black. *Are these refillable?

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Dave C.

Well, a couple of days ago I bought an HP Deskjet F4480 printer/
scanner. The software never installed without errors. I uninstalled
completely and reinstalled it three times. I turned off my antivirus
and firewall, etc. to no avail. I have 14 days to return it or
replace it to the retailer. Its going back tomorrow.

I think this is a bottom end printer and for unknown reasons, the
software was not compatible with my system.

Dell PC, XP Pro, plenty of memory.