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'How'?-THREE Monitors in 'Independent Mode'-P750????
"HammerToe" wrote in message ...
I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode. I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment) 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info; everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates the use of Wallpapers.... Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my goal???? No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can switch between the controllers and use them one at a time. Rick |
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Rick wrote:
"HammerToe" wrote in message ... I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode. I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment) 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info; everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates the use of Wallpapers.... Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my goal???? No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can switch between the controllers and use them one at a time. When was that support removed? Rick -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ...
Rick wrote: "HammerToe" wrote in message ... I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode. I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment) 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info; everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates the use of Wallpapers.... Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my goal???? No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can switch between the controllers and use them one at a time. When was that support removed? That support was never there in the first place. Only one video controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple adapters. Rick |
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Rick wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: "HammerToe" wrote in message ... I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode. I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment) 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info; everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates the use of Wallpapers.... Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my goal???? No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can switch between the controllers and use them one at a time. When was that support removed? That support was never there in the first place. Only one video controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple adapters. I see. Someone needs to tell my copy of XP as it is going along blissfully unaware of this limitation. The ability to extend the desktop across up to ten monitors connected to as many video boards as necessary to attach them is a documented feature of Windows 2000 and XP. Only one of those monitors (not adapters--even if the adapter has connections for many monitors only one of those monitors is "primary") but it is not necessary that a display adapter be set as "primary" in order to be used in an extended desktop. The video adapters do not even have to be the same brand--some users are running arch-rivals ATI and nvidia simultaneously. Perhaps you are confusing the "multiple display" capability with the "dualview" feature, or are thinking about the known issue involving television signals and the video overlay feature. You might want to call up the "help" in your Windows 2000 or XP system and search on "multiple monitor". If this capability does not work on your machine then you need to get drivers that are not broken. Rick -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ...
Rick wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: "HammerToe" wrote in message ... I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode. I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment) 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info; everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates the use of Wallpapers.... Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my goal???? No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can switch between the controllers and use them one at a time. When was that support removed? That support was never there in the first place. Only one video controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple adapters. I see. Someone needs to tell my copy of XP as it is going along blissfully unaware of this limitation. The ability to extend the desktop across up to ten monitors Reread the OP. That's not what he wants to do. Rick |
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"Rick" wrote in message ...
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: "HammerToe" wrote in message ... I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode. I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment) 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info; everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates the use of Wallpapers.... Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my goal???? No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can switch between the controllers and use them one at a time. When was that support removed? That support was never there in the first place. Only one video controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple adapters. I see. Someone needs to tell my copy of XP as it is going along blissfully unaware of this limitation. The ability to extend the desktop across up to ten monitors Reread the OP. That's not what he wants to do. John, I think I see why you were confused. I need to elaborate on my previous answer. What I'm saying is, support for simultaneous *independent mode* on a third monitor would have to come from the primary controller's driver, and as far as I know Matrox (or any other manufacturer) doesn't support this, if the third monitor is not on the primary adapter. I know Windows itself does not support this. Rick |
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Rick wrote:
"Rick" wrote in message ... "J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: "HammerToe" wrote in message ... I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode. I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment) 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info; everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates the use of Wallpapers.... Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my goal???? No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can switch between the controllers and use them one at a time. When was that support removed? That support was never there in the first place. Only one video controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple adapters. I see. Someone needs to tell my copy of XP as it is going along blissfully unaware of this limitation. The ability to extend the desktop across up to ten monitors Reread the OP. That's not what he wants to do. John, I think I see why you were confused. I need to elaborate on my previous answer. What I'm saying is, support for simultaneous *independent mode* on a third monitor would have to come from the primary controller's driver, and as far as I know Matrox (or any other manufacturer) doesn't support this, if the third monitor is not on the primary adapter. I know Windows itself does not support this. I'm not clear on this "independent mode". The systems that I've used either show the same desktop on all monitors or extend the desktop across multiple monitors. I've not seen a system that shows different desktops on different monitors, at least not under Windows. Rick -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ...
Rick wrote: "Rick" wrote in message ... "J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Rick wrote: "HammerToe" wrote in message ... I'm current running TWO 19" analog monitors @ 1600x1200 (each), 32 Bit Color in 'INDEPENDENT' mode. I would LIKE to consider adding a THIRD 19 incher BUT using only the capabilities of the P750, I can only do so IF I 'drop down' to (something like - it was quite awhile ago that I did the experiment) 3840x1024 - a 'STRETCHED' mode which I don't like much. I don't get any more (for all intents and purposes) 'pixels' to display more info; everything simply gets larger. ALSO I really don't like having my TaskBar stretched across the three monitors and it also complicates the use of Wallpapers.... Anyway - bottom line: I would like to run ALL the monitors in 1600 x 1200 'INDEPENDENT' mode and, since I cannot do that with only the capabilities of the P750 card, I was wondering if I could add a SECOND (PCI) Video Card (of suitable make and capabilites) and achieve my goal???? No, at least not in Windows 2000/XP. Windows does support multiple video controllers, but not at the same time. One can switch between the controllers and use them one at a time. When was that support removed? That support was never there in the first place. Only one video controller can be set as primary at a time -- simultaneous triple (or whatever) monitor support has to come from the primary controller's driver. You can't divide it up among multiple adapters. I see. Someone needs to tell my copy of XP as it is going along blissfully unaware of this limitation. The ability to extend the desktop across up to ten monitors Reread the OP. That's not what he wants to do. John, I think I see why you were confused. I need to elaborate on my previous answer. What I'm saying is, support for simultaneous *independent mode* on a third monitor would have to come from the primary controller's driver, and as far as I know Matrox (or any other manufacturer) doesn't support this, if the third monitor is not on the primary adapter. I know Windows itself does not support this. I'm not clear on this "independent mode". The systems that I've used either show the same desktop on all monitors or extend the desktop across multiple monitors. I've not seen a system that shows different desktops on different monitors, at least not under Windows. In independent mode each monitor is separate, it allows one to set an individual resolution, color depth and refresh rate on each. Virtual positions of apps are independent on each, e.g. maximizing an application on one display will make it full screen, on that monitor only. I believe with Matrox's current cards and drivers, independent mode is limited to two displays -- a third display must use stretched mode with one of the first two monitors. I could be wrong about this if Matrox has recently made changes. But in any case, adding a second adapter will not give the OP what he's looking for. Rick |
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Rick wrote:
I believe with Matrox's current cards and drivers, independent mode is limited to two displays -- a third display must use stretched mode with one of the first two monitors. It can also be used for overlay and zoom (what Matrox calls "features") with the first two monitors in independent mode. That's nice for gfx and video work. Regards, -- *Art |
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"HammerToe" wrote in message ...
.. Recently however, I started to consider the possibility of trying to add a third 19 incher driven off a second (PCI) video card and the whole issue of 'possibilities' and potential problems (HW and SW) arose again. My own 'gut feel' was that 'Matrox' (software-drivers+Powerdesk) would not be of any help here BUT my thought/hope was that they wouldn't be a hinderance. I 'kinda suspected' that I WOULD (VERY LIKELY) have to revert to (a) 'Stretched Mode' BUT I thought that MAYBE under these conditions I could let the P750 handle two monitors @ 1600x1200 IN STRETCHED MODE and the PCI card handle the third, also at 1600x1200. That's what I was trying to explain earlier. Support for what you're trying to do has to come from the driver for the primary controller. Neither Windows itself nor Matrox's driver would allow you to do this. This may change in the future, with the advent of PCI-X. But in the meantime adding another adapter will not give you 1600x1200 on the third monitor, in any mode, since it is not supported either by Windows or by the primary controller driver. Rick |
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