Looking for suggestions on building a 'dream' computer

My suggestion is don't get a PC, get a server.

...huh?

How would a "server" NOT be a PC? Well I suppose if you setup a Mac as a
server...

PC is 'Personal Computer'. A server is typically meant to be used by many
and not 'personal' usage.

Sometimes the terminology can cause a bit of misunderstanding

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:09:33 GMT, "Brad" wrote:


My suggestion is don't get a PC, get a server.

...huh?

How would a "server" NOT be a PC? Well I suppose if you setup a Mac as a
server...

PC is 'Personal Computer'. A server is typically meant to be used by many
and not 'personal' usage.

Sometimes the terminology can cause a bit of misunderstanding

I usually think of PC as meaning an IBM compatible machine as opposed to a Mac.

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Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:02:31 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:54:38 GMT, "Brad" wrote:

For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.

Looking to get a new system and the company will be paying for it ( or most
of it) so im looking to put together an awesome system that could make me
the king of my block for awhile.....

....so overkill is encouraged.

*shakes head*

...stupid.
Please explain how wanting a fast computer, being had on someone
else's dollar is stupid?.


My current computer cost about $1000 a few years back, so if the 'dream'
system runs up to say $6000, i would like to know about. ( i know one can
assemble a system for $20 K so im trying to keep within reason )

I can build you a system for a few million (how much are the Altix 3000 superclusters going for
these days) how is that for reasonable?
Yea, and how many gamers have those?


Im asking if some of you hardware informed people may give me your 2 cents
on what I could shop for.

Intelligence would probably be the first thing you should look into buying.
Oh heck, here we go again......

Even if the component needs to be specially
ordered from the manufacturer because stores rarely carry it ( perhaps cause
its expensive or not in much demand), I still would like to hear about it.

*shakes head*

I have a very good understanding of most components but not as in touch with
the highest-end performance parts

The highest end computer systems will cost upwards of $50,000 per rack mount (something in the range
of Intel Itanium 2's)
Yea, and again, how many gamers have those?

Im thinking something such as:

- Dual ( or even 4 ??) CPU MB

*shakes head*

- fast cpu's to fill those multiple slots.

For $6,000 you could probably buy 2 or 3 low grade rack mounts.
Hmm, the guy asks for advice on building a kick-ass system, yet you
point him to a couple low-grade systems. Weird.


- 1 to 2 gigs ram

For $6,000? That's pretty pathetic, you could probably afford upwards of 8 gigs on your budget.

- the best gaming video card ( note that I want to support multiple
monitors..2 hopefully 3 and being able to video input cable tv at times)

Well now see that just raises all sorts of questions. I mean are you talking about just a card with
a TV tuner or are you talking about being able to capture as well? And if so what resolution,
format and bit rate are you looking to encode in?

- hard drive: running 4, 200gb drives in raid or something like that.. or
whatever gets the fastest speed

Why bother? Just use one drive in the system and then get yourself a mobile rack removable drive
setup if you need extra storage.

All ideas are welcome. thank you
Post thoughts here so others amy share in or email bwps (@) shaw.ca

You know the thing of it is, it's like you're trying to build "OMG WTF TEH MOST POWERFUL SYSTEM
EVAR" and you're naive enough to think $6,000 is even a drop in the bucket for a system that could
be truly considered that. It sounds more like what you want is a "cool" or "unique" LOOKING system.
Check this out (my brothers system): http://www.meow.org/flonk/Josh-Syste...pgrades?page=1
OK, it has some lights and a couple goodies. It alright, but not THAT
special. BTW, if you buy a decent case, it WON'T have sharp edges.


Now that's just an old Athlon 900Mhz system with 128mb of memory, but it looks 8 shades of absolute
badass. That's because the concentration was put on style rather than just trying to buy a lot of
expensive component to try and get speed that wasn't even needed for the applications that he
regularly uses. The upgrades you see on that link, yeah, the visual stuff didn't cost more than a
$150...granted it was all some assembly required, no instructions, figure it out for yourself, but
it wasn't expensive.
The guy's looking for advice on building a kick-ass system, so you
point him to an 900mhz athlon system with a couple lights


So really, you need to decide if you just want a few butt ugly boring generic brand box mounts
sitting in your living room which isn't really going to impress anyone unless they're just REALLY
familiar with Ghz and terabytes and what not. Or do you want to go for STYLE that will REALLY
impress your average laymen (someone like you, who obviously doesn't know much about the subject).
The guy that's pimping a sub-gigabyte system is telling someone else
how little they know about real systems. Come on, you can do better
than that.


Think about it, if you walked into a room and saw this:
http://www.meow.org/flonk/Josh-Syste...glow_02?full=1
or this:
http://www.bdmsystems.co.uk/images/m.../rackmount.jpg
which would you THINK was the "faster"/"better" system, just off hand?
I'm not sure how to answer that, since those stupid LEDs don't add any
speed or functionality. Hard to tell how fast a system is by looking
at the case, no matter how many lights it has.

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You should start drinking prune juice and KY jelly cocktails right now,
that will make things a lot smoother.
-Felatio Love

You know the thing of it is, it's like you're trying to build "OMG WTF TEH
MOST POWERFUL SYSTEM
EVAR"

I said 'king of the block for awhile', meaning 'above average among the
local populace'...not 'most powerful ever' Theres a very big difference.
Its apparent that you dont understand

For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.

You should have moved on after reading that part, Ordinaryus

Im looking for some knowledge that you contributed none of so go 'shake
head' elsewhere

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:40:28 GMT,
wrote:

When did I mention Megabytes ? what the **** do you think the M stands for
in Mbits ?
And haven't you heard of Bonding ADSL ?
And I wouldn't know how much they pay at McDonalds but maybe I'll ask one of
my 3 kids in a few years time when they are your supervisor.
And as for big boy I run my own Engineering Company employing 30 people.
Also when the **** has Dreamweaver or Acrobat been Graphic Intensive ?

And I am not jealous in the slightest about your system but I bet you do....
OOOO look he can render 1 sec faster than mine must get the XT now

Do you really think anyone believes that someone who runs their own
engineering company would make such an immature post? I have yet to
meet any adult, let alone with children that would spout such pre-teen
drivel. I mean, come on, at lease TRY to makeyour lies line up for
god's sake.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You should start drinking prune juice and KY jelly cocktails right now,
that will make things a lot smoother.
-Felatio Love

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:40:59 GMT, "Brad" wrote:

You know the thing of it is, it's like you're trying to build "OMG WTF TEH MOST POWERFUL SYSTEM
EVAR"

I said 'king of the block for awhile', meaning 'above average among the
local populace'...not 'most powerful ever' Theres a very big difference.
Its apparent that you dont understand

I understand full well that you're confused on the difference between style and function. There is
no sense in buying more computer than what you need, it's not a ****ing sports car, Junior.

For the computer knowledgable and savvy people.

You should have moved on after reading that part, Ordinaryus

Im looking for some knowledge that you contributed none of so go 'shake
head' elsewhere

Yer not altogether that bright, are ya? Certainly you don't seem to even recognize who I am. I can
assure you though, child, I have plenty of experience and knowledge in the subject, more so than
many of the people in the various groups in the froup line. Don't blame me for your stupidity, it's
not my fault that you're so sensitive you can't even take a few light hits on yer lil ego. You need
to learn to suck it up and try and understand what I said, rather than just get all defensive and
ignore it cause you don't like getting your nose rubbed in your idiocy.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net

Yer not altogether that bright, are ya? Certainly you don't seem to even
recognize who I am. I can
assure you though, child, I have plenty of experience and knowledge in the
subject, more so than
many of the people in the various groups in the froup line. Don't blame
me for your stupidity, it's
not my fault that you're so sensitive you can't even take a few light hits
on yer lil ego. You need
to learn to suck it up and try and understand what I said, rather than
just get all defensive and
ignore it cause you don't like getting your nose rubbed in your idiocy.

It appears that its your ego thats taking a few hits. You figure your
someone special on the newsgroup and seem bothered that I dont know who you
are.. I don't, and nor do I give a ****. You come across as nothing but a
troll thats out to waste peoples time...Therefore I'm not interested in any
of your further comments. So run along now before your parents catch you on
their computer

Whatever......

"GTD" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:40:28 GMT,
wrote:

When did I mention Megabytes ? what the **** do you think the M stands for
in Mbits ?
And haven't you heard of Bonding ADSL ?
And I wouldn't know how much they pay at McDonalds but maybe I'll ask one
of
my 3 kids in a few years time when they are your supervisor.
And as for big boy I run my own Engineering Company employing 30 people.
Also when the **** has Dreamweaver or Acrobat been Graphic Intensive ?

And I am not jealous in the slightest about your system but I bet you
do....
OOOO look he can render 1 sec faster than mine must get the XT now

Do you really think anyone believes that someone who runs their own
engineering company would make such an immature post? I have yet to
meet any adult, let alone with children that would spout such pre-teen
drivel. I mean, come on, at lease TRY to makeyour lies line up for
god's sake.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You should start drinking prune juice and KY jelly cocktails right now,
that will make things a lot smoother.
-Felatio Love

**** me thats been my problem all a long, cheers for clearing that one up.


"Almeyda" wrote in message
...
liam ur a dick.... just cause u cant get one.

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AMD2500XP @3200XP-11X200-2.21Ghz
A7N8X-E Deluxe Corsair TWINX1024 XMS3200LL DualChannel
HIS Excalibur 9800XT 256mb @463/399 (Omegas 2.5.51 & ATI tool 0.20 No
Artifacts)
1x80GB SATA Seagate 8mg cache 2x40GB ATA Seagate
SB AudigyES ANTEC SuperLanboy 350 Case (350W SmartBlue PS)


"liam" wrote in message
...
Here's the system I've just built

ASUS SK8V Deluxe board
FX-55
2GB PC3200 OCZ
X800 Pro (couldn't get the XT)
SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
2x75GB 10K Raptors
1x250GB Caviar (all SATA obviously)
Plextor DVD burner (though this will be replaced at the beginning of
next year with one of the new 8.5GB units)
Samsung combi (for convenience and when I need to burn a CD in a hurry -
it's twice as fast as the Plextor)
Coolermaster WaveMaster case
Tagan SilentPower 500W PSU (and it *IS* silent!)
Logitech iTouch combi (Bluetooth)
If you're a gamer (which you obviously are) - the you owe it to yourself
to get a MX700 or MX900 (Bluetooth) - they are the most accurate and
most responsive gaming mice currently available. Coupled with a
RatpadzGS (Gaming Surface) - they will (sorry for the advertising
cliche) take your gaming experience to a whole new level.

Whilst I'm not really a gamer (not in the sense of FPS, flight sims,
RTS, etc) I do play (OK, I guess adventures, RPGs and management don't
really count - I can't wait for /Rollercoaster Tycoon 3/ or /The Sims
2/ for example).

Just my 2p (inc. VAT)'s worth.

--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
lose his marbles?
WTF Would you want a system like that for if you don't use it for FPS or
Flight Sims/Racing Sims.

What Frame Rate do you get with Solitare ?
Do you suffer from Lag with Internet Hearts.?

Why don't you get an 8 Meg Bonded SDSL connection for your e-mail. ?

Have you got some £2.50 headphones for your soundblaster ?

How's the 14" Monitor running at 640 * 480 ?

What a fookin Tosser you are ?

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:06:40 GMT, "Brad" wrote:

Yer not altogether that bright, are ya? Certainly you don't seem to even
recognize who I am. I can
assure you though, child, I have plenty of experience and knowledge in the
subject, more so than
many of the people in the various groups in the froup line. Don't blame
me for your stupidity, it's
not my fault that you're so sensitive you can't even take a few light hits
on yer lil ego. You need
to learn to suck it up and try and understand what I said, rather than
just get all defensive and
ignore it cause you don't like getting your nose rubbed in your idiocy.

It appears that its your ego thats taking a few hits.

Oh look, you're so ****ing deficient you're stealing material out of my last post. Not much for
originality, are you retard?

You figure your someone special on the newsgroup

"the" newsgroup? In case your dumbass just didn't realize it, you're crossposting to nearly half a
dozen different groups...not that it matters, my name carries meaning in one form or another in just
about any Usenet group.

and seem bothered that I dont know who you are..

You confuse "bothered" with "entertained".

I don't, and nor do I give a ****.

Now ya see, that would be your lil problem, not mine. ^_^

You come across as nothing but a troll thats out to waste peoples time...

A troll, eh? Well to some groups, yes, I suppose you might be able to call me that. Usually though
that title is used an excuse when one wants to try and save face and hide from the fact that they're
far too stupid to match wits against me. A troll perhaps...but if so I'm one of the only one's
online who uses hard facts and my targets own sheer ****ing stupidity to do it with.

Therefore I'm not interested in any of your further comments.

Awww, are you gonna run away? He, he, he...wouldn't surprise me. At this point your dumbass
certainly has to realize just how far in over your lil pointy head you are and you obviously want to
find the quickest way out...too bad you're too gawd damn stupid to just "let it go", huh? Have to
try and get the last word in and all like that, eh?

So run along now before your parents catch you on their computer

WOW, boy I've never seen THAT before. What's next, Junior, are ya gonna start screaming about
people living in their parents basement? Or maybe about how you hate homosexuals? Or maybe you
just wanna stomp your lil feet up and down and tell me all about how your daddy makes more money
than my daddy...*snicker*...you're ****ing pathetic. If I were you I'd get the **** off Usenet
before you realize just how gut wrenchingly deficient you really are.

Oh and good luck with your $6,000 over compensation, I'm sure it's not because you're insecure and
you have a tiny little penis or anything. `, )

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Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net