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Old October 15th 18, 06:36 PM posted to,,,alt.windows7.general
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Default Intel CPU prices going up?

Yousuf Khan wrote:

Intel's processor prices have been going up recently, rather than down.
They're blaming it on production problems. Intel has been well known to
be stuck on the 14nm node for a while now. Instead of going towards 10nm
they just keep incrementing their 14nm with plus signs, what are they up
to now, 14nm++++? Regardless, even at 14nm they were able to keep up
with production before, why not now? It's not even only their high-end
processors that are in short-supply, even their low-end value-oriented
processors like i3-8100 or i5-8400 are not available. This doesn't sound
like a high-demand supply shortage, it just sounds like just basic low
yields to me. Do you think that maybe even their internal tinkering with
14nm is making things worse for them? Perhaps, 14nm++++ is not as good
as 14nm+++? In the meantime, AMD is at 12nm and humming along, and ready
to migrate towards 7nm within less than a year.

Every manufacturer has a maximum threshold for producing a product. A
bakery can only produce as many loaves of bread per day as they have
ovens. They cannot exceed that threshold without investing more money
when conjecturing long-lived increased demand. Without adding more
plants, Intel cannot increase their volume. Adding a plant or extending
an existing one costs a lot of money which is only be reasonably
qualified for expense if demand is expected to continue indefinitly, not
for a minor blip in demand. Demand has gone up and exceeded their
manufacturing volume. A company can overbuild their plant with
reasonable knowledge that demand will go up; however, if that fails then
all the expenses to build a new plant, expand an existing plant, or
re-tool a plant are wasted - and companies aren't in business to be
altruistic to non-achieved planning goals just so they could've made
more but didn't have to. The future can only be predicted, not observed
(at which point it becomes history).

Also, it isn't just about the CPU chips. Without the supporting
chipsets, the CPUs isn't usable. Missing hardware means lack of support
for, um, what those chipsets support. A car without tires isn't going

Prices go up when there are shortages based on current demand. That's
normal business everywhere. With less or same supply volume but with
increased demand from more consumers clamoring for a product, what would
you expect to happen to the salesman's price? You're old enough to have
heard "supply and demand" but maybe you didn't understand it.