On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 21:07:16 -0800, "Hupjack"
hupjack_nospamtoday_yahoo.com wrote:

Kony.. thanks for the info. I was definitely thinking this was too hot,
and certainly was uncertain whether a chassis fan by itself would do the
trick when selling it.. I'll ask this e-tailor http://www.pcinfinity.net/
to right this wrong, and if they don't, I'll give them a scathing review at
http://www.resellerratings.com/..

Would you believe their receipt and an e-mail they sent bribe customers with
1 year additional warranty for positive testimonials? Blechhhhh.... quite
an unsavory business practice IMO.

Heh, that does sound like a LOW move on their part.


They never should've bundled that low-end Speeze cooler with any chip
faster than an XP1800.

Certainly seems that way to me.
Assuming this http://www.speezeusa.com/5r281b1h3.asp is the same one that I
have... My box has a "G" on the end of the 5R281B1H3 model number... They
spec it as suitable... Of course, my chip is a 2600+ Barton, not a
Thoroughbred. I was just hoping the specs would support my claim that
pcinfinity bundled an inappropriate cooler. Is there another reputable
website, like perhaps an AMD one that shows what models are suitable? Does
the fact that mine's a Barton give me a legit claim that the heatsink was
inappropriate? Certainly the temperatures I'm getting make a pretty clear
cut case.

This is what the Speeze site claims this cooler can handle
Athlon MP ~ 2100+ (Thoroughbred)
Athlon XP ~ 2700+ (Thoroughbred)
Athlon ~ 1.4 GHz (Thunderbird)
Duron ~ 1.8 GHz (Morgan)


Unfortunately low-end coolers are often overrated, but then again I'm a
snob when it comes to heatsinks, I'd never suggest any 'sink that needs a
fan running in excess of 3000RPM and wouldn't accept 3K for anything _I_
have to listen to day-in-day-out. The best way to get a cooler on the
cheap is to keep an eye out for sales and buy ahead of time, before you
actually need it, and buy fans in bulk... though that hardly works as
well for someone only needing one or two heatsinks, but places like
http://www.svc.com or Newegg's refurbs can both be great places to get a
reasonably low price if not a great one.

Anyway, I doubt you have much recourse with pcinfinity unless they really
want your repeat business... Speeze's spec covers them, the issue might
be with Speeze unless you had proof they knew about the 'sink's marginal
performance. If they won't take the heatsink back you might try lapping
it or replacing the fan with one 25mm thick, which may increase airflow at
same noise level given almost same RPM (slightly lower RPM would be same
noise level all other things being equal since an increase in airflow
would increase the turbulent noise)... though I doubt the Speeze fan
actually delivers much of it's spec'd 22CFM once it's mounted on the
heatsink, thin fans can't maintain pressure very well in addition to
wearing out relatively quickly if not just getting even louder until you
can't stand it anymore.