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Old September 27th 03, 05:53 PM
Orhan
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I disabled already Silicon Image RAID Controller (Onboard H/W SATA)
and ITE RAID Controller (Onboard H/W GIGARAID) in BIOS.

Do I have a chance to run 98SE on my single SATA drive as SATA, by
disabling Intel Controller (On-Chip SATA disabled) and using the
Silicon Image Controller (Onboard H/W SATA enabled, Serial ATA
Function as RAID) if I change to SATA0-SII Connector? As far as I know
this controller has drivers for 98SE. Did someone try it?

Here is another problem:
My Pioneer DVD-120RD (Sec. Master) is recognized as a DMA33 device. I
connected it to IDE2 as recommended using the ATA100 cable with red
end from Gigabyte. It must be a DMA66 device. What's wrong?

Orhan

"Tim" wrote in message ...
Excellent answer - should be in the manual.

If only they would fix their boot order menu and also show all detectable
IDE devices, it would be a lot more obvious as to what is going on.

Consensus seems to be that the ITE controller is slow, so that should be
last choice. I see no reason why CD / DVD could not work on it if it is set
to non-raid config, but then who knows until it is tested?

"Base" for the Silicon Image controller = plain vanilla IDE.

- Tim



"Taliska" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Yes, it's a total pain... I've got F5 BIOS and my machine will boot off my
SATA drive on the Intel Controller for XP. It is pretty reliable, but
occasionally the BIOS won't find the second SATA drive on the Intel
Controller. I have DVD-RAM and CD-ROM drives on the Intel PATA Controller
(IDE 0 & IDE 2).

I found that if I enabled all RAID controllers, then I would get all the
Boot Order options correctly displayed and no blank options. I don't
actually have any drives attached to the Silicon Image SATA Controller,

and
I have 1 old HDD on the ITE RAID controller (clearly not in a RAID config
then!)

In the Boot Order, there can be 3 options:
Intel RAID Controller
ITE RAID Controller
Silicon Image RAID Controller
That's the order I have them.

The settings a

For Intel Raid Controller:
OnChip SATA [Manual]
SATA Port 0 configure as [SATA Port 0]
SATA RAID Function [Enabled]

The [Manual] will allow you to enter [SATA Port 0] and will stop any

attempt
to remap it to the normal IDE 0 (PATA). The [Enabled] on the RAID function
has the effect of making it bootable.

For the Silicon Image RAID Controller (SATA):
Onboard H/W SATA [Enabled]
Serial ATA Function [BASE]

The [Enabled] option will make the Controller appear in the Boot Order. I
personally don't care what the [BASE] means as I have no drives attached

to
the Silicon Image RAID Controller. I'd guess it means single drives not
RAIDed.

For the ITE RAID Controller (PATA):
Onboard H/W GigaRAID [Enabled]
GigaRAID Function [ATA]

The [Enabled] option will make the Controller appear in the Boot Order.

The
[ATA] option makes the drives appear as single drives and not as part of a
RAID (as far as I know).

It is *generally* better to use the Intel Controller rather than the

Silicon
Image Controller as it's faster (doesn't clog the PCI bus?)

It is *generally* better to use the Intel Controller as SATA drives and

not
mapped over the PATA drives - as it allows you to use PATA devices at the
same time (i.e. most (all?) DVD and CD Drives).

It is *generally* better to use the normal (Intel) PATA drives rather than
the ITE RAID Controller PATA drives as it doesn't clog the PCI bus.

I don't think that you can (well not when I tried anyway) put DVD / CD
drives on the ITE chip either.

SATA remap to PATA is useful if your O/S can't work with SATA drives
directly.

I think that's all - things may have changed with F6 - if anyone can

correct
anything that I've said, then you're most welcome.

Taliska

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"Michael Len" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
Orhan this is very confusing. I found this out by trial and error: In
the BIOS "SATA Port0 Configure as" - refers to the Intel Ich5R
controller, "onboard H/W SATA" refers to the Silicon Image controller,
"GigaRAID Function" refers to the IDE RAID controller.
My set up: 1 SATA HD on SATA0_SB, "On-chip SATA" set to manual, "SATA
Port0 Configure as" set to IDE Pri. Master, "SATA RAID Function" set to
disabled. With the F6 Bios "Serial ATA Function" disappeared but I had
it set to BASE previously. I have WINXP.

Orhan wrote:
I have to set the SATA RAID function as disabled, if SATA Port0
configured as IDE Pri. Master. Do you mean Serial ATA function as
RAID? Should I set it as BASE? Does it matter if SATA RAID already
disabled?

Could you tell me please, which functions have Onboard H/W SATA
(Enabled/Disabled) and Serial ATA Function (RAID/BASE)? Could they be
for Silicon Image SataRaid Controller?

Orhan

"Taliska" wrote in message

...

Apologies, checking the BIOS settings are trickly when answering a

post...
:-)

Wasn't clear enough, you enable the RAID, but don't actually make a

RAID.

Taliska


"Tim" wrote in message

...

I went around this issue tons of times before I got it to work.
The *only* way it works on *this* mobo is with the Intel SATA as

RAID -

even

though I am not using raid. This is completely contrary to what you

are
saying, to what I was expecting, and how other SATA / PATA RAID

controllers

work. With the Intel SATA as IDE, the standard IDE1 and 2

disappear!!!!!!!!

This had me absolutely miffed for weeks 'cos it meant I had not

choice
but
to use that horrid ITE device as an IDE device, which in turn

elongated
my
boot times by 22 or so seconds.

I am more than happy to be proven wrong, but would suspect something

else
has been fixed first (EG m/b revision, bios).
I use F6 bios.

- Tim



"Taliska" wrote in message
...

IE when the intel SATA controller is configured as RAID you can

boot

of
it,

if it is not, it has to be set to IDEx to boot and that removes the

real

IDEx from your machine.

Nope, nope....

Set the SATA to Manual and enable it - don't set it up as a RAID.

You

can

then boot off it as a SATA drive and still have all your IDE's

available.
If

you can't set the boot order 'cos you can't see it, then enable all

RAID
controllers.

Taliska

"Tim" wrote in message

...

So, if SATA0_SB is Pri Master, you will no doubt not see IDE1.
If SATA0_SB is configured as SATA0, then your disc is not

recognised.

The onchip SATA controller works best if it is configured as RAID

even

if

you do not have a RAID config.
Unlike the ITE / Gigabyte controller which is absolutely stupid the

Intel

one is smart enought to see and run with ordinary non raid discs.

You

should

install the intel RAID drivers under XP in this config.

IE when the intel SATA controller is configured as RAID you can

boot

of
it,

if it is not, it has to be set to IDEx to boot and that removes the

real

IDEx from your machine.

Clear?

BTW: when you look at the mobo in a tower case with the PCI's on

the

left,

CPU towards the top, the SATA0_SB connector is the 'top right' one.

- Tim



"Orhan" wrote in message
gle.com...

Hi,

I have a Maxtor 120GB SATA HDD and GA-8KNXP motherboard. I

configured

SATA Port0 as IDE Pri. Master in BIOS, because I couldn't install

XP
when remapped this to SATA0 (XP installer can't find my HDD).
How can I use my HDD as a SATA drive and not as PATA

(DMA100)-without

crashing my system- ? I run a dual boot system (98SE+XP) and it

works

fine except that SATA problem.
There is no SATA option available under Boot Order in BIOS (anyhow
disappeared!)
I am not sure,which connector did I connect my SATA drive to. But

I
think, to SATA0-SB. Is there any difference?
Gigabyte Technical Support says I should upgrade my F5 BIOS to F6.
Would that be a solution for me? In User's Manual of GA-8KNXP I

read
that this port must be remapped to SATA0 when running XP or later

OS
only. What if dual booting? And why didn't XP find my SATA HDD?
What is the right setting for BIOS?
I would be grateful for any helps.

Orhan