On 04/24/2019 10:57 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 04/24/2019 10:34 AM, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 04/24/2019 12:28 AM, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 04/22/2019 6:46 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 04/22/2019 5:17 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 14:38:50 -0400, Paul
wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
BTW what would be a Ryzen equivalent to an Intel i8700
Coffee lake?
You can work this out using cpubenchmark.
AMDs premise, is to give you more on multithreading, rather
than have the highest clock*IPC on single threaded benches.
Games need some of each. "Highest clock" for the boss thread,
"Moar cores" to the extent that other parts of the game (AI,
map prefetch) can be parallelized.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.htmlÂ*Â*Â* # single
threaded, highest clock # The most common operations use
this.
Intel Core i7-8700 @ 3.20GHzÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â* 2,630Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # $420 CDN AMD
Ryzen Threadripper 2920XÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â* 2,231Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # $800 CDN,
Â*mobo++, large socket AMD Ryzen 7 2700XÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 2,193
# $420 CDN
snip
When I was shopping a few months ago, the AMD equivalent to the
Intel 8700 was indeed the Ryzen 7 2700X, which was US$280 at
the time, compared to US$310 for the Intel 8700. I didn't
choose the Ryzen because it doesn't have onboard graphics. A
couple of the lesser Ryzens do have onboard GPU, but then they
were less comparable to the 8700. Things may have changed by
now. Even as recently as a few months ago, I was hearing rumors
that AMD was going to add another GPU-equipped CPU to the
line-up, but the concern was that they'd have to get rid of
something (some number of CPU cores) to make room on the die
for the GPU. Rather than waiting to see what was about to
happen, I went with the 8700.
When I decide to go ahead I will try the CPU graphics and see if
they will be good enough for the lite gaming I do, if so That
will save me about $250 CDN, if not I can get a new Video card
later or use my existing HD 5850.
Rene
The computer gods must have been watching me, this morning I heard
a kinda funny noise from my system so I pulled the side panel and
there was my GPU fan and shroud laying on the PSU spinning merrily
away. I pulled the Video card out and found the 2 little plastic
posts broken off, the other 2 had never been attached from the
factory. So to try and repair it properly would have meant removing
the large heatsink/pipe assembly. So instead I used 2 sets of
tiewraps to hold it all back together. So I guess that was the
signal to get going, so tonight after doing price checking at 4
online stores as folows.
Amazon.ca Memory express.ca Newegg.ca Walmart.ca I chose Amazon as
being the lowest price.
I ordered the following parts Asus Z390 prime Motherboard Intel i7
8700 CPU G.skill 3200 trident memory- 16GB Coolermaster hyper 212
evo cooler
I did not order the video card ,as per Char jacksons post saying
the CPU/GPU onboard graphics may be adequate, will give them a try
first. Will post again when all parts are received.
Rene
PRIME Z390-AÂ* $250CDNÂ*Â*Â*Â* One DisplayPort on I/O plate One HDMI on
I/O plate Purchase an active adapter to make a VGA signal (I own one
of each, and they're "transparent")
8700 res-out Max Resolution (HDMI 1.4)Â*Â* 4096x2304 @ 24Hz (drop res
for 60Hz...) Max Resolution (DP)Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 4096x2304 @ 60Hz
8700 graphics UHD 630 24 EU 192 Shaders (likely with some flavor of
QuickSync video block)
You didn't mention your current video card, or I'd have stuffed it
into the table.
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php
IntelÂ*Â* UHD 630Â*Â*Â* 1202Â* passmark G3DÂ*Â* === your CPU graphics Radeon
HD 4870Â*Â*Â* 1382Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* (historical reference) GeForce
GTX 1050Â*Â* 4688Â* passmark G3DÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* (don't buy 1030, 1050 has NVenc
encoder) Radeon RX 580Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 8447Â* passmark G3DÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Your proposal
GeForce GTX 1660Â* 11022Â* passmark G3DÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* RTX generation (but with
Â*raytracing off?)
Anyway, you can mine that Passmark web table for comparisons to what
you've got.
Paul
Should have mentioned
Radeon HD 5850 which seems to give me passmark of 763, so the UHD 630
should be a fair amount better.
Â* I have HDMI in on my Asus MX279 27 inch IPS monitor, so I guess I
shouldn't need an adaptor (I think).
Rene
The MX279 is HD 1920x1080. Should be no problem at 60Hz refresh.
Â*Â*Â* Paul
Downloaded the manual last night and am busy reading it, that UEFI bios
looks kinda intimidating compared to my old 'bios' bios, thank goodness
I will not be overclocking.
I have added Windows-10 newsgroup as I get closer to software questions.
Rene
Received the Cooler and memory this morning, The CPU and MB to follow in
about a week, They were sold out, They got in another bunch yesterday.
Looking forward to see what pitfalls await me, I copied all my
Favorites, bookmarks and important emails to my external back up drive,
Just in case, also did a fresh Macrium backup of C\: to the same drive.
In the past I have always did a new fresh install of Windows on a new
build or major upgrade, This time I want to keep Windows and apps intact.
Will this work or will windows throw a tantrum and refuse to work with
the new hardware?
Should I uninstall all the old drivers and hardware before the final
shutdown of the old system, such as Video, Network, Audio, Keyboard etc
Or would that help?
I presume I will have to Get in touch with Microsoft for reactivation,
Does anyone have the Phone number?
Trying to make this fairly painless so a little research is in order.
Thanks to all.
Rene