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Old November 9th 03, 10:21 PM
Tom Scales
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I'm talking about the link he posted for someone's computer.
"HH" wrote in message
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Uh, the Spec said MII 366, which IS a Cyrix chip.
HH
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
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Then the link is wrong, it's not a P2-366, it's a Cyrix 366.

They are NOT interchangeable.

Tom
"HH" wrote in message
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Tom,
Yep. quoting QuickSpecs for the 5304, it had a Cyrix "MIIT 366 1 MMX

TM
Enhanced Processor."
HH

"Tom Scales" wrote in message
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I'll defer to the experts, but I didn't believe the 5304 was a Cyrix

box.
"Ricky Spartacus" wrote in message
om...
If not then take a look at this Presario 5304. It has a Pentium

II.
Why is that possible?

http://www.dependablecomputerservice...q_Presario.htm

Rick

None of those processors can be interchanged. Your Cyrix can't

up
upgraded.
The Centrino (which really isn't a processor, the processor is a

P
M,
if
I
remember). Won't interchange with a P3 or P2 or P4 or.....

Tom
"Ricky Spartacus" wrote in

message
om...
The centrino processor is smaller in size compared to my other

two
Compaq desktop Presario 5304 and 2256. Why is it smaller? Did

they
stop making the larger processors? I swapped the CPU from the

2256
to
5304 and won`t boot. It fits but won`t boot. Would the AMD

Athlon
XP
2600 work on the 5304? If so, I think upgrading the S4020WM to

a
better performance Pentium and swap the S4020WM`s CPU to my

sluggish
5304.

Note: My Presario 2256 uses an AMD 300 MHz and works great,

and
reliable. My Presario 5304 uses a Cyrix 100 MHz and slow and
sluggish. Repeating, would the AMD Athlon XP 2600 work on the

5304?
Thanks
Rick

Yes, the box tells the kind of processor. XP 2400+, XP

2600+,
XP
2800+,
etc.
That's a series of processors. The further to the right you

go,
the
better
the processor, but also more expensive. I think the 2400+ at
2.0GHz
is a
good compromise, at least it is for my purposes.
--
Euc1id

"Ricky Spartacus" wrote in

message
om...
One more note: I Will take it back and get the one that has

the
AMD
Athlon 2400+. I hope Wal-Mart have labled it Athlon 2400 so

I
can
get
what ever has the AMD Athlon 2400+.
--

I use primarily chess analysis software. It maxes out the
processor
(near
100% usage). There's just enough time left, provided by

the
op
system
apparently, to insert a little multitasking such as go

online
with
IE/OE,
or
run another app if it isn't too processor intensive. I run

it
that
way
24/7/30/12, in other words almost all the time. Speed is
everything to
me.
Those who don't run time-intensive apps probably don't

care,
so
almost
anything would work. Actually I could still get along with

my
old
Commodore
64 for most things, but the chess software requires

optimum
speed.
Real
speed (#ops/second), not "fake GHz" numbers.
--
Euc1id

"Kevin Childers" wrote in message
...
It's really all a matter of what your apps demand from

the
processor.
Having some in low end servers I can say that when you

have
a
lot
of
small
apps being called at random they seem to do well. If you

are
using a
heavy
app that places a big load on the processor that onboard

cache
really
becomes important. You lose a nanosecond here and a

nanosecond
there,
after
a bit those begin to add up and you can tell the

difference.

KC


"Euc1id" wrote in message

nk.net...
You've got it reversed. The older Celerons based on the
Pentium
II
were
excellent values, good performers for the money. The

current
batch
based
on
the Pentium IV are junk. They juiced up the "GHz"

artificially
because
they
knew it had sales value, but that means it doesn't

indicate
the
true
speed
anymore.

For example I briefly had one of those 2.5GHz Celeron
computers,
exactly
like Ricky Sparticus bought, and compared it to my old

500MHz
Celeron
computer with W98se purchased in 1999. You would expect

the
new
one
to
be
5X
faster, based on the relative GHz valuses. Right? Wrong!

It
was
only
2X
faster, using various operations from my own apps for
benchmarks.

So I took it back and got this 2.0GHz AMD Athlon 2400+,

which
according
to
the relative GHz you would expect to be 4X faster than

the
old
500MHz
Celeron. Right? Right! It is indeed 4X faster!

So you can ignore the "GHz" altogether if you've got one

of
the
new
Celeron
processors, because it's meaningless. It just doesn't

have
the
indicated
ops/sec, which is the only thing that matters. You might

be
able
to
find
some obscure benchmarks that say differently, but

certainly
none
of
my
apps
did so.

Now, to further emphasize why GHz doesn't indicate the

true
or
relative
speed anymore... Get ahold of one of those 1.3GHz

Centrino
processors
that
come in some notebooks, and they're a lot faster than my
2.0GHz
Athlon
XP
2400+. Maybe 50% faster. So "GHz" is for the birds, it

doesn't
mean
anything
anymore.

So the 2.5 GHz Celeron is very sluggish by current

standards.
Take
it
back
and get something worthwhile.
--
Euc1id

"Tom Scales" wrote in message
...
Celerons are not crap. Period.

The early ones, many, many years ago were. No question.

Current ones are really just P4 chips with a slightly

smaller
cache.
Good
value for the money.

I'd take one over an AMD any day. Why would I want to

buy
a
copy of
the
real thing?

Tom
"Euc1id" wrote in message

k.net...
You weren't listening. You got a Celeron processor,

and
they're
pure
crap.
You'll have nothing but problems... Take it back and

get
an
AMD
Athlon
processor computer. Anything starting from the Athlon

XP
2400+
or
higher
is
good. Or as second choise, get an Intel Pentium 4.

128MB RAM just isn't enough to run Windows XP and
applications
and
video
graphics. You need at least 256MB RAM. I put 1GB RAM

in
mine,
because
RAM
is
cheap now.

"Ricky Spartacus" wrote

in
message

om...
Your experieces were helpful. After days of thinking,

I
decided to
get
the CPQ S5000NX from a local store. Walmart is further

away.
This
one
comes with 2.5Ghz and 128 RAM. I do work with

graphics.
What
do
RAM do
that will impede with normal computer tasks?
Rick