wrote:
On Jan 5, 9:39 am, bud-- wrote:
Still not provided. Why would you believe you have posted specs? So
many posts and you still don't provide any numbers.
Christopher posted a "link to the product page that also has a detailed
specification page." w just ignores what doesn't fit his beliefs. He
doesn't believe specs exist.

Which number claims protection from each type of surge?

The village idiot repeats the nonsense about "each type of surge".

Bud - who promotes power strip protectors

I promote only accurate information.
w promotes his religious beliefs.

has cut and pasted his
usual diatribe.

Being evangelical in his beliefs about earthing and plug-in suppressors,
w trolls google-groups for "surge" to cut and paste in his religious
dogma. That is how he arrived.

Page 42 Figure 8 demonstrates what the APC and
Tripplite protectors actually do. Without earth ground, the spike is
earthed 8000 volts destructively through an adjacent TV.

If poor w could only read and think he could discover what the IEEE
guide says in this example:

- A plug-in suppressor protects the TV connected to it.
- "To protect TV2, a second multiport protector located at TV2 is required."
- The suppressor at TV1 causes absolutely no damage at TV2.
- In the example a surge comes in on a cable service with the ground
wire from cable entry ground block to the ground at the power service
that is far too long. In that case the IEEE guide says "the only
effective way of protecting the equipment is to use a multiport
[plug-in] protector."
- w's favored power service suppressors would provide absolutely NO
protection.

But w’s belief in earthing prevents him from understanding the clear
IEEE example.

Bud's second citation is even more damning. Bud's NIST citation
says why APC and Tripplite protectors do not provide those spec
numbers

What does the NIST guide really say about plug-in suppressors?
They are "the easiest solution".
And "one effective solution is to have the consumer install" a multiport
plug-in suppressor.

But poor w can't read anything that conflicts with his religious belief
in earthing.

Spike energy must be dissipated somewhere. Will that silly little
APC or Tripplite protector stop or absorb what three kilometers of sky
could not? Bud says yes.

The village idiot can't understand the clear explanation in the IEEE guide.
Repeating:
The IEEE guide explains plug-in suppressors work by CLAMPING (limiting)
the voltage on all wires (signal and power) to the common ground at the
suppressor. Plug-in suppressors do not work primarily by earthing (or
stopping or absorbing or magic). The guide explains earthing occurs
elsewhere. (Read the guide starting pdf page 40).

No wonder Christopher Muto still will not post those protection
numbers. Those numbers do not exist.

The village idiot can't find the specs Christopher posted. If w
ignores them they don't exist?

No
earth ground means nothing will stop or dissipate spike energy.

The required statement of religious belief in earthing.

Never seen - a link to anyone who agrees with w that plug-in
suppressors do NOT work.

Never seen - answers to simple questions:
- Why do the only 2 examples of protection in the IEEE guide use plug-in
suppressors?
- Why does the NIST guide says plug-in suppressors are "the easiest
solution"?
- Why does the NIST guide say "One effective solution is to have the
consumer install" a multiport plug-in suppressor?
- Why does the IEEE guide say for distant service points "the only
effective way of protecting the equipment is to use a multiport
[plug-in] protector"?
- How would w’s favored service panel suppressors provide any
protection in the IEEE example, pdf page 42?


For real science read the IEEE and NIST guides. Both say plug-in
suppressors are effective.

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bud--