OMG!!....... quickly turn to any mirror and say "AMD is God" 3 times
and hope that the minions will take pity on you........... ;^) this
will be a run for the longest thread this year.




"Dave C." wrote in message
...
OK, I am totally ****ing FED UP with all these morons insisting that
AMD is
faster and cheaper than Intel, PERIOD. I am a HUGE AMD fan. So
it's
incredibly ironic that I should feel compelled to defend Intel
against
repetitive, undeserved LIES posted on this ng and others about how
AMD chips
are both faster AND cheaper than Intel chips. At any particular
point in
time, that might be true, but it hasn't been true for quite a while,
and it
isn't true NOW. For anyone who doesn't have their head up their
ass, or an
axe to grind, and wants to know the plain, simple truth, here it is:


Stop the nonsense. Compare chips similar in price and look at the
benchmarks.
AMD processors outperform comparably priced Intel processors for
gaming,
business applications, mathematical calculations, and many other
types of
applications.

OK, according to pricewatch, same price range at the moment would
be:

P4 3.2 Prescott vs. Athlon64 3200+ or

P4 3.4 Prescott vs. Athlon64 3400+

Beyond that range, you can pay up to several hundred dollars for
either an
Intel or AMD chip, but hardly anybody gives a damn about those
chips, as
hardly anybody spends as much on a processor as they do on the
entire rest
of their system combined.

So the P4 3.2/3.4 and Athlon64 3200/3400 would be the best
indicators of who
has the best bang for buck, at the moment.

Gaming: OpenGL: The Intel chips are much faster
Gaming: DX8: The AMD chips are faster, no doubt about it
Gaming: DX9: It's virtually a tie, as the AMD chips are two to
three
TENTHS of a percentage point faster than Intel.
So on the gaming benchmarks, that's one win for Intel, one win for
AMD and
one tie.
GAMING OVERALL: TIED

Business Applications: Office Applications: Intel blows AMD away
Business Applications: Internet Content Creation: Intel blows AMD
away
Business Applications: Overall: Intel blows AMD away

Video Encoding: This one is so lopsided, AMD should have thrown in
the
towel before entering the ring. Intel wins by a landslide.

Audio Encoding: Again, Intel wins by a landslide

Synthetic Benchmarks: (PC Mark 2004): Here, Intel blows AMD away
on both
*CPU* and memory benchmarks

Actually, I'm glad you called me out on this issue. I was
previously under
the impression that AMD and Intel were pretty well matched. But on
reviewing the benchmarks again, I'd have to conclude that AMD is
only a good
idea if you plan to do nothing but DX8 gaming with your computer.
Otherwise, you are wasting your money buying an AMD chip.

Again, even at the same price for CPU, an Intel system can be
cheaper to
build, as the P4 boards are more mature at this point, and thus
there are
better bargains to be found. Considering that an Intel system will
likely
be cheaper to build and WILL perform better on all benchmarks except
DX8,
it's kind of a no-brainer as to which chip to build with, at the
moment.

Intel is better than AMD, at the moment. The only way AMD could
change that
would be to drop their prices by 30% or better. -Dave 9/20/04

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040322/index.html

Yeah, I know you are going to blast Tom's Hardware. It's funny that
their
benchmarks agree with tests run by all the other hardware guide web
sites,
though . . . including anandtech.