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Old January 24th 06, 08:55 PM posted to creative.products.sound_blaster.live
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Default separate line in jack ?

T Shadow wrote:
"louise" wrote in message
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T Shadow wrote:

"mc" wrote in message
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One last thought. You can have 2 soundcards in the same computer and

select


between them in software.

I know that Asus sound-on-the-motherbard and Sound Blaster Live 24 are
compatible.


"louise" wrote in message
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mc wrote:


Can you tell me a little more precisely what it is that you need to


do?

I can probably help you figure it out.



Thanks a lot - and thanks for your patience in reading the long
description below.

Audigy 2ZS card and Win XP Pro - Asus motherboard, P4, lots of memory

and


processor power.

I have a handheld microphone which goes into an M Audio preamp (called
Audio Buddy). This plugs into the "line in" jack.

I would like to be able to also plug a headset/microphone directly into
the soundcard or with a USB sound pod.

The reason I want both is that I would like to be able to dictate from
either the handheld through the line in, OR the headset microphone.

I use Dragon Naturally Speaking speech recognition software. You have


to

create a new user (profile) for each dictation source used because you
have to "train" the program to recognize your speech.

The program will not recognize another input source other than the line

in


so that it will not allow me to create a second user with a different
input source.

The surround mixer does change the record input from the line mix to
microphone but it still doesn't seem to have any effect upon the

program's


ability to recognize another input source.

I tried using a USB sound pod for my second input source and the same
thing happened. This did work in the Windows recorder but it did not

work


in Dragon NaturallySpeaking.

It is very hard to get good tech support on this issue because the

preamp


isn't "supported" and the speech recognition people know nothing about

it


and simply say it is not supported. Creative doesn't really know a lot
about Dragon NaturallySpeaking and perhaps not very much about the


Audio

Buddy either.

There is some weird interaction between the Dragon software and the
Creative software -- at least that's my latest theory. Even when I use
the USB sound pod, the creative software is still loaded.

Another piece of information if this would shed any light: whenever I
start Dragon NaturallySpeaking, it automatically puts an X on the

line-in.


In other words, when you start the program, it sets itself up for
microphone plugged into mic in jack. When I checked with their tech
support, this is how the software is supposed to operate. So, whenever

I


do load the speech recognition software, I also have to go into the
surround mixer and take the x out of the line in so that my present set

up


can work.

The headset and the USB pod work perfectly on my portable, so I know

that


those two pieces of hardware are fine. I have also done a repair

install


of the Dragon software and it made no difference; I don't think the
program installation is corrupted.

Everyone I speak to who knows the Dragon software at all has a "hunch"
that it has something to do with the fact that the sound card has a mix
for the input and that it confuses the Dragon software setup.. But no

one


is sure.

The other issue about "what u hear" is that I do a fair amount of
recording of music off the net - therefore, I want that capability as
well - but I gather most soundcards actually have that.

I hope this is at least a little clear and if you have any suggestions,

I


certainly would appreciate it.

Thanks again.

Louise


AFAIK every card I've owned have separate Mic and Line-In jacks. My SB


Live

and Audig2 do for sure. The problem seems to be Dragon only wanting to


use

the Mic port.
Go into the Windows(not Creative) Sound Control Panel and see if you can
select the mixer device you want to use, before running Dragon. I've not
used a USB sound device but hopefully there will be 2. Does the pod show
having a Mic port?
I've read the post 6 time and I'm still not sure I understand exactly


what's

going on but I'll give some info that may help you experiment. Wave and


MIDI

are digital sound on the computers bus. All of the others are physical


ports

to the sound card. Analog mix are hardware ports and What You Hear is


Analog

Mix + Wave.
It might help understanding if you could post a link for the pods


website.


Here's the link for the usb sound pod

http://www.emicrophones.com/micropho...asp?prodID=003

The Creative control panel doesn't see the pod at all. But
Windows control panel/sound can see the pod and the wndows
recorder can accept dictation from the pod.

Louise



From:
http://www.emicrophones.com/docdetai...?documentid=25

"When NatSpeaking loads, it scans available sound devices, finds the default
you have stipulated for preferred devices, and sets up for 16-bit speech
recognition PCM (Pulse-Coded Modulation) recording format"

Looks like you need to set the pod to default in Windows "Sounds and Audio
Devices Properties" Control Panel before running Dragon. I'd set it in the
audio and Voice pages then click "use Only Default Devices" on the Audio
page.
Since your putting Dragon on a second computer can I assume you like it and
find it useful?


thanks for that suggestion. I did make it the default, but
I did not check "use only default devices". I'll try again :-)

Yes, I do find Dragon very useful. Although I type very
very quickly, I also need to create many pages a day and
after a while, I get RSI. One does have to do some work to
train it for your speech patterns and it does make
ridiculous mistakes from time to time -- usually when you
haven't enunciated well enough.

If you're going to try it, I have one strong recommendation:
do not use the included headset because it really isn't good
enough and you lose a lot of accuracy that you could have if
you got a more expensive headset or, a freestanding handheld
microphone on a boom.

I purchased the "Preferred" version; this is plenty good
enough unless you really don't have use of your hands or do
so much dictating that the creation of individual macros
would be critical for you.

Most people do not need the Audio Buddy that I use -- in
fact, I am very much the exception and there's no need to
figure that you would have to do that. It is because I have
a somewhat hoarse and soft voice that I need the extra
amplification.

Thanks again and if you to get Dragon, check out
Knowbrainer.com for a wonderful bulletin board filled with
information about how to use the program and how to maximize it.

Louise