Thinking "out of the box" when building a PC
More and more, as I look at prefabricated cases for PCs, I ask myself:
what prevents someone from building a PC with no case? For example, why couldn't you, say, build some sort of wooden mounting area into a wall or a desk, then mount all the components to it, so that you have something that blends into the furniture and/or something with plenty of open space to ease maintenance and keep the machine cooler? Why does everything always have to be in a cramped box? As long as you respect things like cable lengths, are there other limitations? Beyond cable lengths, it occurred to me that perhaps rotating parts like CD and especially disk drives need to rotate in a horizontal plane in order to have a symmetric load on the bearings. Is this true? I've seen PCs in the past with disk drives mounted vertically, and one of them was quite new (although it failed for other reasons later on--it was pretty cheap). Do disk drives have to be mounted in only certain orientations? Another concern might be EMI, but if you had a metal mesh enclosure or something around the machine that you could close and ground, wouldn't that stop EMI? Does anyone really have much trouble with EMI, anyway? Anyway, what I picture is a sort of vast PC with tons of room between components, almost like a huge rack in the style of old mainframes into which you could easily stick your arm if you had to replace something. Current cases are so cramped that one must pay careful attention not to break anything when removing or adding parts, and the air circulation never seems to be anywhere close to ideal. Maybe something that fits under a desktop (literally) would work. You'd have a hinged door on the desktop, and when you lift it up, you have your PC components all nicely mounted in a roomy enclosure with plenty of space to maintain or upgrade them, and powerful silent fans to keep the whole thing comfortably cool. It would be the opposite of a laptop: instead of trying to squeeze everything into the smallest possible space, you'd be spreading it out into a very large and accessible place that could potentially give you years of easy and trouble-free use--and could be discreet enough that people wouldn't even know that you had a PC (out of sight, and out of sound). I've seen companies that build special furniture to receive a PC, but it's always just a spot into which a standard cabinet can be fitted. I haven't found anyone who builds PCs directly into furniture, walls, etc. Maybe there's no much demand for easy access. I'm the type who would like to see subfloors and false ceilings with open cable trays and access |
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Mxsmanic wrote: More and more, as I look at prefabricated cases for PCs, I ask myself: what prevents someone from building a PC with no case? For example, why couldn't you, say, build some sort of wooden mounting area into a wall or a desk, then mount all the components to it, so that you have something that blends into the furniture and/or something with plenty of open space to ease maintenance and keep the machine cooler? Why does everything always have to be in a cramped box? As long as you respect things like cable lengths, are there other limitations? Beyond cable lengths, it occurred to me that perhaps rotating parts like CD and especially disk drives need to rotate in a horizontal plane in order to have a symmetric load on the bearings. Is this true? I've seen PCs in the past with disk drives mounted vertically, and one of them was quite new (although it failed for other reasons later on--it was pretty cheap). Do disk drives have to be mounted in only certain orientations? Another concern might be EMI, but if you had a metal mesh enclosure or something around the machine that you could close and ground, wouldn't that stop EMI? Does anyone really have much trouble with EMI, anyway? Anyway, what I picture is a sort of vast PC with tons of room between components, almost like a huge rack in the style of old mainframes into which you could easily stick your arm if you had to replace something. Current cases are so cramped that one must pay careful attention not to break anything when removing or adding parts, and the air circulation never seems to be anywhere close to ideal. Have a ball. I think FCC regs and even safety regulations (or at least company lawyers worrying about lawsuits) limit cases to the boring, as you have noted. As for taste, nobody's going to make a PC in a way that only one person likes. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. |
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... More and more, as I look at prefabricated cases for PCs, I ask myself: what prevents someone from building a PC with no case? For example, why couldn't you, say, build some sort of wooden mounting area into a wall or a desk, then mount all the components to it, so that you have something that blends into the furniture and/or something with plenty of open space to ease maintenance and keep the machine cooler? Why does everything always have to be in a cramped box? As long as you respect things like cable lengths, are there other limitations? Beyond cable lengths, it occurred to me that perhaps rotating parts like CD and especially disk drives need to rotate in a horizontal plane in order to have a symmetric load on the bearings. Is this true? I've seen PCs in the past with disk drives mounted vertically, and one of them was quite new (although it failed for other reasons later on--it was pretty cheap). Do disk drives have to be mounted in only certain orientations? Another concern might be EMI, but if you had a metal mesh enclosure or something around the machine that you could close and ground, wouldn't that stop EMI? Does anyone really have much trouble with EMI, anyway? Anyway, what I picture is a sort of vast PC with tons of room between components, almost like a huge rack in the style of old mainframes into which you could easily stick your arm if you had to replace something. Current cases are so cramped that one must pay careful attention not to break anything when removing or adding parts, and the air circulation never seems to be anywhere close to ideal. Maybe something that fits under a desktop (literally) would work. You'd have a hinged door on the desktop, and when you lift it up, you have your PC components all nicely mounted in a roomy enclosure with plenty of space to maintain or upgrade them, and powerful silent fans to keep the whole thing comfortably cool. It would be the opposite of a laptop: instead of trying to squeeze everything into the smallest possible space, you'd be spreading it out into a very large and accessible place that could potentially give you years of easy and trouble-free use--and could be discreet enough that people wouldn't even know that you had a PC (out of sight, and out of sound). I've seen companies that build special furniture to receive a PC, but it's always just a spot into which a standard cabinet can be fitted. I haven't found anyone who builds PCs directly into furniture, walls, etc. Maybe there's no much demand for easy access. I'm the type who would like to see subfloors and false ceilings with open cable trays and access I built a case out of 1" stock (wood) with laminated plywood set in grooves for side panels that just slide out from the front. I use it for testing purposes at my work bench. It hangs by woodscrews under one end of my bench. The main problem I had was the rear panel (scavenged from a case I had setting around) and the on/off and reset switches which I also scavenged and cut holes to match. Never thought much about EMI since I use a completely open wooden board for testing MBs, PSUs interior components etc. I could stain it and mount it pretty much anywhere if I wanted and it would not look much like a PC. I use it for testing printers, USB devices and other externals mainly. It has 802.11g so it is very functional and I have posted here from it while working. It is an old FCPGA P3-700 @ 933 and stays nice and cool running W2K. My workspace is small and bench room is at a premium, but I guess I could have done the same thing with an old case I already had. All the components are easy to get to and change since my bench is fairly high and it is mounted with the left side panel to the front. I just have two 80mm fans in the case and an old Golden Orb for CPU cooling. The main drawback is that if your time is valuable, it would probably be more cost effective to purchase a case...........:-). On the positive side, you can build it the way you want and make things very easy to swap out. Ed |
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festered sore, and keeper of the kitchen cupboard, whimpered: More and more, as I look at prefabricated cases for PCs, I ask myself: what prevents someone from building a PC with no case? For example, why couldn't you, say, build some sort of wooden mounting area into a wall or a desk, then mount all the components to it, so that you have something that blends into the furniture and/or something with plenty of open space to ease maintenance and keep the machine cooler? Why does everything always have to be in a cramped box? As long as you respect things like cable lengths, are there other limitations? Beyond cable lengths, it occurred to me that perhaps rotating parts like CD and especially disk drives need to rotate in a horizontal plane in order to have a symmetric load on the bearings. Is this true? I've seen PCs in the past with disk drives mounted vertically, and one of them was quite new (although it failed for other reasons later on--it was pretty cheap). Do disk drives have to be mounted in only certain orientations? Another concern might be EMI, but if you had a metal mesh enclosure or something around the machine that you could close and ground, wouldn't that stop EMI? Does anyone really have much trouble with EMI, anyway? Anyway, what I picture is a sort of vast PC with tons of room between components, almost like a huge rack in the style of old mainframes into which you could easily stick your arm if you had to replace something. Current cases are so cramped that one must pay careful attention not to break anything when removing or adding parts, and the air circulation never seems to be anywhere close to ideal. Maybe something that fits under a desktop (literally) would work. You'd have a hinged door on the desktop, and when you lift it up, you have your PC components all nicely mounted in a roomy enclosure with plenty of space to maintain or upgrade them, and powerful silent fans to keep the whole thing comfortably cool. It would be the opposite of a laptop: instead of trying to squeeze everything into the smallest possible space, you'd be spreading it out into a very large and accessible place that could potentially give you years of easy and trouble-free use--and could be discreet enough that people wouldn't even know that you had a PC (out of sight, and out of sound). I've seen companies that build special furniture to receive a PC, but it's always just a spot into which a standard cabinet can be fitted. I haven't found anyone who builds PCs directly into furniture, walls, etc. Maybe there's no much demand for easy access. I'm the type who would like to see subfloors and false ceilings with open cable trays and access Why not use a refrigerator as your case, it has a handy light when you open the door. Your components would be as cool as you wanted and you could keep your beers in there too. -- For my own part, I have never had a thought which I could not set down in words with even more distinctness than that with which I conceived it. There is, however, a class of fancies of exquisite delicacy which are not thoughts, and to which as yet I have found it absolutely impossible to adapt to language. These fancies arise in the soul, alas how rarely. Only at epochs of most intense tranquillity, when the bodily and mental health are in perfection. And at those weird points of time, where the confines of the waking world blend with the world of dreams. And so I captured this fancy, where all that we see, or seem, is but a dream within a dream. |
Mxsmanic wrote:
More and more, as I look at prefabricated cases for PCs, I ask myself: what prevents someone from building a PC with no case? That is unwholesome thinking. Find a case that is easy to open and that supports easy changing of components. On the other hand I wouldn't want you to repress your need for self-expression. |
Matt writes:
Find a case that is easy to open and that supports easy changing of components. Does anyone make such cases? Most of them seem to be designed for looks or compact size rather than maintenance or cooling. |
Mxsmanic wrote:
More and more, as I look at prefabricated cases for PCs, I ask myself: what prevents someone from building a PC with no case? For example, why couldn't you, say, build some sort of wooden mounting area into a wall or a desk, then mount all the components to it, so that you have something that blends into the furniture and/or something with plenty of open space to ease maintenance and keep the machine cooler? Why does everything always have to be in a cramped box? As long as you respect things like cable lengths, are there other limitations? Beyond cable lengths, it occurred to me that perhaps rotating parts like CD and especially disk drives need to rotate in a horizontal plane in order to have a symmetric load on the bearings. Is this true? I've seen PCs in the past with disk drives mounted vertically, and one of them was quite new (although it failed for other reasons later on--it was pretty cheap). Do disk drives have to be mounted in only certain orientations? Another concern might be EMI, but if you had a metal mesh enclosure or something around the machine that you could close and ground, wouldn't that stop EMI? Does anyone really have much trouble with EMI, anyway? Anyway, what I picture is a sort of vast PC with tons of room between components, almost like a huge rack in the style of old mainframes into which you could easily stick your arm if you had to replace something. Current cases are so cramped that one must pay careful attention not to break anything when removing or adding parts, and the air circulation never seems to be anywhere close to ideal. Maybe something that fits under a desktop (literally) would work. You'd have a hinged door on the desktop, and when you lift it up, you have your PC components all nicely mounted in a roomy enclosure with plenty of space to maintain or upgrade them, and powerful silent fans to keep the whole thing comfortably cool. It would be the opposite of a laptop: instead of trying to squeeze everything into the smallest possible space, you'd be spreading it out into a very large and accessible place that could potentially give you years of easy and trouble-free use--and could be discreet enough that people wouldn't even know that you had a PC (out of sight, and out of sound). I've seen companies that build special furniture to receive a PC, but it's always just a spot into which a standard cabinet can be fitted. I haven't found anyone who builds PCs directly into furniture, walls, etc. Maybe there's no much demand for easy access. I'm the type who would like to see subfloors and false ceilings with open cable trays and access Have you taken the time to explore case mod websites? Do a google search for "case mod" and go from there. Some of the competitions and how-to guides that can be found are very impressive! -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/ |
Mxsmanic wrote:
Matt writes: Find a case that is easy to open and that supports easy changing of components. Does anyone make such cases? Most of them seem to be designed for looks or compact size rather than maintenance or cooling. You can hire someone to make just about anything... -- spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor: http://www.abmdr.org.au/ http://www.marrow.org/ |
More and more, as I look at prefabricated cases for PCs, I ask myself: what prevents someone from building a PC with no case? For example, why couldn't you, say, build some sort of wooden mounting area into a wall or a desk, then mount all the components to it, so that you have something that blends into the furniture and/or something with plenty of open space to ease maintenance and keep the machine cooler? Why does everything always have to be in a cramped box? As long as you respect things like cable lengths, are there other limitations? http://www.mini-itx.com/projects.asp |
Mxsmanic wrote:
More and more, as I look at prefabricated cases for PCs, I ask myself: what prevents someone from building a PC with no case? For example, why couldn't you, say, build some sort of wooden mounting area into a wall or a desk, then mount all the components to it, so that you have something that blends into the furniture and/or something with plenty of open space to ease maintenance and keep the machine cooler? Why does everything always have to be in a cramped box? As long as you respect things like cable lengths, are there other limitations? Beyond cable lengths, it occurred to me that perhaps rotating parts like CD and especially disk drives need to rotate in a horizontal plane in order to have a symmetric load on the bearings. Is this true? I've seen PCs in the past with disk drives mounted vertically, and one of them was quite new (although it failed for other reasons later on--it was pretty cheap). Do disk drives have to be mounted in only certain orientations? Another concern might be EMI, but if you had a metal mesh enclosure or something around the machine that you could close and ground, wouldn't that stop EMI? Does anyone really have much trouble with EMI, anyway? Anyway, what I picture is a sort of vast PC with tons of room between components, almost like a huge rack in the style of old mainframes into which you could easily stick your arm if you had to replace something. Current cases are so cramped that one must pay careful attention not to break anything when removing or adding parts, and the air circulation never seems to be anywhere close to ideal. Maybe something that fits under a desktop (literally) would work. You'd have a hinged door on the desktop, and when you lift it up, you have your PC components all nicely mounted in a roomy enclosure with plenty of space to maintain or upgrade them, and powerful silent fans to keep the whole thing comfortably cool. It would be the opposite of a laptop: instead of trying to squeeze everything into the smallest possible space, you'd be spreading it out into a very large and accessible place that could potentially give you years of easy and trouble-free use--and could be discreet enough that people wouldn't even know that you had a PC (out of sight, and out of sound). I've seen companies that build special furniture to receive a PC, but it's always just a spot into which a standard cabinet can be fitted. I haven't found anyone who builds PCs directly into furniture, walls, etc. Maybe there's no much demand for easy access. I'm the type who would like to see subfloors and false ceilings with open cable trays and access Once in "Maximum PC" I saw pictures and descriptions about a guy who build his PC in a desk. All the parts were in different drawers. Yes, there were mods to the desk and wiring considerations. He had to make it to get air in there for cooling, but found that separating all the hot parts kept things pretty cool anyway. I thought that was pretty cool. Hey, look around on the Web. There are a lot of people that have done some creative and/or crazy things. Clyde |
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