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Peter Allison[_2_] June 30th 08 03:20 PM

Mystery motherboards - Compaq Deskpro SB - won't boot
 
I have acquired three Socket 370 motherboards, marked 305 Rev0AS21, also
with part numbers 011305-101 and 011306-000.

From what I can tell these are the basis for a Deskpro SB (?) machine, but
none of them will boot! They have on-board graphics, and a memory card
marked "4Mb AIMM 133Mhz CL3" is provided for the AGP slot.

I have tried various processors and memory sticks - the LEDs on the board
light when I plug in the PS and trip the 'power on' pins, but no boot!
I notice that some of the pins to the panel are marked SCSI LED and
LOOPBACK - are either of these crucial to the boot sequence?

Any help appreciated!!

Peter Allison
Swindon, UK.



Ben Myers June 30th 08 11:02 PM

Mystery motherboards - Compaq Deskpro SB - won't boot
 
I ***THINK*** I have run into this motherboard. This is a full ATX board?
Check the power supply connector, counting its "pins". IIRC, it is 24-pin,
rather than the more usual 20-pin ATX connector of that era. I had some that
used 800MHz Pentium 3 CPUs. The SCSI LED and LOOPBACK jumpers are not critical.
The pinout from the motherboard to the front panel (on-off momentary switch,
power-on LED, HDD active LED) is something I cannot remember... Ben Myers

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:20:35 +0100, "Peter Allison"
wrote:

I have acquired three Socket 370 motherboards, marked 305 Rev0AS21, also
with part numbers 011305-101 and 011306-000.

From what I can tell these are the basis for a Deskpro SB (?) machine, but
none of them will boot! They have on-board graphics, and a memory card
marked "4Mb AIMM 133Mhz CL3" is provided for the AGP slot.

I have tried various processors and memory sticks - the LEDs on the board
light when I plug in the PS and trip the 'power on' pins, but no boot!
I notice that some of the pins to the panel are marked SCSI LED and
LOOPBACK - are either of these crucial to the boot sequence?

Any help appreciated!!

Peter Allison
Swindon, UK.


- Bobb - July 1st 08 11:41 PM

Mystery motherboards - Compaq Deskpro SB - won't boot
 

"Peter Allison" wrote in message
...
I have acquired three Socket 370 motherboards, marked 305 Rev0AS21, also
with part numbers 011305-101 and 011306-000.


https://www.serversupply.com/product...p?q=011305-101

http://www.serversupply.com/MOTHERBO...011305-101.htm


From what I can tell these are the basis for a Deskpro SB (?) machine,
but none of them will boot! They have on-board graphics, and a memory
card marked "4Mb AIMM 133Mhz CL3" is provided for the AGP slot.


http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Samsung-...-Memory-Module

I have tried various processors and memory sticks - the LEDs on the
board light when I plug in the PS and trip the 'power on' pins, but no
boot!


By 'BOOT' do you mean " any visible power up sequence " ?
or do you have a drive in there ?

I notice that some of the pins to the panel are marked SCSI LED and
LOOPBACK - are either of these crucial to the boot sequence?

Any help appreciated!!

Peter Allison
Swindon, UK.


Do you know memory cards are good ?
If you remove memory - do you get beep code ?

The SCSI LED would just show disk activity.
"Loopback pins" This is on the front panel ? or motherboard ?
===
BTW all HP Socket 370 motherboards on his site:
http://www.shopping.com/-socket+370+...boards+Hewlett


Peter Allison[_2_] July 2nd 08 11:25 AM

Mystery motherboards - Compaq Deskpro SB - won't boot
 
Yes, Ben, that's the one.

I have used a power supply with a 24-pin connector, should that not do the
trick?

Peter


"Ben Myers" wrote in message
...
I ***THINK*** I have run into this motherboard. This is a full ATX board?
Check the power supply connector, counting its "pins". IIRC, it is
24-pin,
rather than the more usual 20-pin ATX connector of that era. I had some
that
used 800MHz Pentium 3 CPUs. The SCSI LED and LOOPBACK jumpers are not
critical.
The pinout from the motherboard to the front panel (on-off momentary
switch,
power-on LED, HDD active LED) is something I cannot remember... Ben Myers

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:20:35 +0100, "Peter Allison"

wrote:

I have acquired three Socket 370 motherboards, marked 305 Rev0AS21, also
with part numbers 011305-101 and 011306-000.

From what I can tell these are the basis for a Deskpro SB (?) machine, but
none of them will boot! They have on-board graphics, and a memory card
marked "4Mb AIMM 133Mhz CL3" is provided for the AGP slot.

I have tried various processors and memory sticks - the LEDs on the board
light when I plug in the PS and trip the 'power on' pins, but no boot!
I notice that some of the pins to the panel are marked SCSI LED and
LOOPBACK - are either of these crucial to the boot sequence?

Any help appreciated!!

Peter Allison
Swindon, UK.




Peter Allison[_2_] July 2nd 08 11:29 AM

Mystery motherboards - Compaq Deskpro SB - won't boot
 
No drives attached.

The pins marked 'loopback' are on the motherboard alongside the 'power
switch' pins.

LEDs light up, but power supply fan does not run and no beeps or POST
messages.

Peter


"- Bobb -" wrote in message
. ..

"Peter Allison" wrote in message
...
I have acquired three Socket 370 motherboards, marked 305 Rev0AS21, also
with part numbers 011305-101 and 011306-000.


https://www.serversupply.com/product...p?q=011305-101

http://www.serversupply.com/MOTHERBO...011305-101.htm


From what I can tell these are the basis for a Deskpro SB (?) machine,
but none of them will boot! They have on-board graphics, and a memory
card marked "4Mb AIMM 133Mhz CL3" is provided for the AGP slot.


http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Samsung-...-Memory-Module

I have tried various processors and memory sticks - the LEDs on the board
light when I plug in the PS and trip the 'power on' pins, but no boot!


By 'BOOT' do you mean " any visible power up sequence " ?
or do you have a drive in there ?

I notice that some of the pins to the panel are marked SCSI LED and
LOOPBACK - are either of these crucial to the boot sequence?

Any help appreciated!!

Peter Allison
Swindon, UK.


Do you know memory cards are good ?
If you remove memory - do you get beep code ?

The SCSI LED would just show disk activity.
"Loopback pins" This is on the front panel ? or motherboard ?
===
BTW all HP Socket 370 motherboards on his site:
http://www.shopping.com/-socket+370+...boards+Hewlett




Ben Myers July 2nd 08 02:29 PM

Mystery motherboards - Compaq Deskpro SB - won't boot
 
Peter,

You need the specific Compaq 24-pin power supply intended for this motherboard.
Why did Compaq use a 24-pin power supply? Why do any of these companies use
such proprietary hardware? Dell did similar extremely stupid things with its
Pentium 3 systems, too. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt that the pinout on a
newer P4 24-pin power supply matches this one... Ben Myers

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:25:44 +0100, "Peter Allison"
wrote:

Yes, Ben, that's the one.

I have used a power supply with a 24-pin connector, should that not do the
trick?

Peter


"Ben Myers" wrote in message
.. .
I ***THINK*** I have run into this motherboard. This is a full ATX board?
Check the power supply connector, counting its "pins". IIRC, it is
24-pin,
rather than the more usual 20-pin ATX connector of that era. I had some
that
used 800MHz Pentium 3 CPUs. The SCSI LED and LOOPBACK jumpers are not
critical.
The pinout from the motherboard to the front panel (on-off momentary
switch,
power-on LED, HDD active LED) is something I cannot remember... Ben Myers

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:20:35 +0100, "Peter Allison"

wrote:

I have acquired three Socket 370 motherboards, marked 305 Rev0AS21, also
with part numbers 011305-101 and 011306-000.

From what I can tell these are the basis for a Deskpro SB (?) machine, but
none of them will boot! They have on-board graphics, and a memory card
marked "4Mb AIMM 133Mhz CL3" is provided for the AGP slot.

I have tried various processors and memory sticks - the LEDs on the board
light when I plug in the PS and trip the 'power on' pins, but no boot!
I notice that some of the pins to the panel are marked SCSI LED and
LOOPBACK - are either of these crucial to the boot sequence?

Any help appreciated!!

Peter Allison
Swindon, UK.



Peter Allison[_2_] July 2nd 08 07:01 PM

Mystery motherboards - Compaq Deskpro SB - won't boot
 
As you say, why people like Compaq and Dell do this, just to frustrate
people like you and I!

I guess the P4 24-pin power supply hadn't been invented when these boards
came out!

Fortunately the person who sold me these three boards has been very
understanding so far, now I need to see if they can see my point of view!

Peter


"Ben Myers" wrote in message
...
Peter,

You need the specific Compaq 24-pin power supply intended for this
motherboard.
Why did Compaq use a 24-pin power supply? Why do any of these companies
use
such proprietary hardware? Dell did similar extremely stupid things with
its
Pentium 3 systems, too. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt that the pinout
on a
newer P4 24-pin power supply matches this one... Ben Myers

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:25:44 +0100, "Peter Allison"

wrote:

Yes, Ben, that's the one.

I have used a power supply with a 24-pin connector, should that not do the
trick?

Peter


"Ben Myers" wrote in message
. ..
I ***THINK*** I have run into this motherboard. This is a full ATX
board?
Check the power supply connector, counting its "pins". IIRC, it is
24-pin,
rather than the more usual 20-pin ATX connector of that era. I had some
that
used 800MHz Pentium 3 CPUs. The SCSI LED and LOOPBACK jumpers are not
critical.
The pinout from the motherboard to the front panel (on-off momentary
switch,
power-on LED, HDD active LED) is something I cannot remember... Ben
Myers

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:20:35 +0100, "Peter Allison"

wrote:

I have acquired three Socket 370 motherboards, marked 305 Rev0AS21, also
with part numbers 011305-101 and 011306-000.

From what I can tell these are the basis for a Deskpro SB (?) machine,
but
none of them will boot! They have on-board graphics, and a memory card
marked "4Mb AIMM 133Mhz CL3" is provided for the AGP slot.

I have tried various processors and memory sticks - the LEDs on the
board
light when I plug in the PS and trip the 'power on' pins, but no boot!
I notice that some of the pins to the panel are marked SCSI LED and
LOOPBACK - are either of these crucial to the boot sequence?

Any help appreciated!!

Peter Allison
Swindon, UK.






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