Ink cartridges with old dates?
 

Hello.

Is it a bad idea to be using old, un(us/open)ed ink cartridges, that
were dated years ago, in old printers like HP Photosmart 8450?

Thank you in advance.
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Is it a bad idea to be using old, un(us/open)ed ink cartridges, that
were dated years ago, in old printers like HP Photosmart 8450?

If the heads are built into the cartridge, go ahead and try it. The
worst that can happen is that it won't work well, if at all. Just have a
spare good cartridge to use if the old one is unusable.

I tried an HP96 cartridge that was old. It sort-of worked, and the
diagnostics page showed all the nozzles firing, but the ink must have
been gummy as it was more gray than black.

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Ink cartridges with old dates?
 

Is it a bad idea to be using old, un(us/open)ed ink cartridges, that
were dated years ago, in old printers like HP Photosmart 8450?

If the heads are built into the cartridge, go ahead and try it. The
worst that can happen is that it won't work well, if at all. Just have a
spare good cartridge to use if the old one is unusable.

I tried an HP96 cartridge that was old. It sort-of worked, and the
diagnostics page showed all the nozzles firing, but the ink must have
been gummy as it was more gray than black.

Ah, I am trying to decide to buy cheaper older unopened ones or pay more
for the new ones.
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(Ant) wrote:
Ah, I am trying to decide to buy cheaper older unopened ones or pay more
for the new ones.

How old?

I've seen HP inks for wide format printers that were
still perfectly good after sitting on the shelf for 6
years. I've used 2 or 3 year old Epson carts with no
problem. I've heard of many others with the same
experience.

Still, it boils down to how critical your prints are.
If you are making posters, brochures, menus, and the
like, that bascially are short term... try it and see
if it works.

For printing archival photographs for an exhibition, I'd
stick with current OEM inks.

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Ink cartridges with old dates?
 

On 8/20/2014 7:58 PM PT, Floyd L. Davidson typed:

Ah, I am trying to decide to buy cheaper older unopened ones or pay more
for the new ones.

How old?

Like a couple years old.


I've seen HP inks for wide format printers that were
still perfectly good after sitting on the shelf for 6
years. I've used 2 or 3 year old Epson carts with no
problem. I've heard of many others with the same
experience.

Still, it boils down to how critical your prints are.
If you are making posters, brochures, menus, and the
like, that bascially are short term... try it and see
if it works.

For printing archival photographs for an exhibition, I'd
stick with current OEM inks.

I got a HP's e-mail about this when I asked:

I finally got a HP to e-mail me about this:

"... You need to know that the expiration date is related to an unopened
cartridge, but after that, I would like to know when did you open it,
also be aware that this cartridge is almost two years old in your
possession, we do not advice tothe customers to have cartridge storage
for more than 6 months, even this could be not advisable, but some
customers do that.

Regarding the RMA, well, it will not be possible for me to offer you
that, it is not an option..."

Is this true? :( Thank you in advance. :)
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Ant wrote:
On 8/20/2014 7:58 PM PT, Floyd L. Davidson typed:

Ah, I am trying to decide to buy cheaper older unopened ones or pay more
for the new ones.

How old?

Like a couple years old.

I've seen HP inks for wide format printers that were
still perfectly good after sitting on the shelf for 6
years. I've used 2 or 3 year old Epson carts with no
problem. I've heard of many others with the same
experience.

Still, it boils down to how critical your prints are.
If you are making posters, brochures, menus, and the
like, that bascially are short term... try it and see
if it works.

For printing archival photographs for an exhibition, I'd
stick with current OEM inks.

I got a HP's e-mail about this when I asked:

I finally got a HP to e-mail me about this:

"... You need to know that the expiration date is
related to an unopened cartridge, but after that, I
would like to know when did you open it, also be aware
that this cartridge is almost two years old in your
possession, we do not advice tothe customers to have
cartridge storage for more than 6 months, even this
could be not advisable, but some customers do that.

Regarding the RMA, well, it will not be possible for me
to offer you that, it is not an option..."

Is this true? :( Thank you in advance. :)

That is all true. Just be aware that they do NOT say
anything about whether the ink is good for 2 years or 10
years. They say they don't advise keeping it that
long... mostly because they are in the business of
selling ink. If you throw away any ink that is 2 years
old and buy new ink, it's good for HP. Not so good for
you...

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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Ink cartridges with old dates?
 

On Fri, 22 Aug 2014, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.periphs.printers, in article
, Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

Ant wrote:

Floyd L. Davidson typed:

Ah, I am trying to decide to buy cheaper older unopened ones or
pay more for the new ones.

How old?

Like a couple years old.

It varies - I've got two double boxes of HP60 Blacks with a "warranty
expires" date of "June 2012" bought about 2 years ago and stored in
the same place. Both cartridges in one box were DOA when I tried them
last month - one from the other box is working fine.

"... You need to know that the expiration date is
related to an unopened cartridge, but after that, I
would like to know when did you open it, also be aware
that this cartridge is almost two years old in your
possession, we do not advice tothe customers to have
cartridge storage for more than 6 months,

That is all true. Just be aware that they do NOT say
anything about whether the ink is good for 2 years or 10
years. They say they don't advise keeping it that
long... mostly because they are in the business of
selling ink.

BINGO!

If you throw away any ink that is 2 years
old and buy new ink, it's good for HP

or the other vendor you buy from. I've had good luck with
"remanufactured" (meaning refilled) cartridges from both OfficeMax
and Staples. Both will "buy" old/empty original, which further
reduces the costs.

Not so good for you...

Phil, depending on the amount of ink you use, you may want to compare
prices at Frys Electronics as well as the office supply and
department stores (typical 2 pack retail) verses a "bulk" package (I've
seen packages of 10) at a warehouse type stores like Costco.

Old guy

Ink cartridges with old dates?
 

On 8/22/2014 9:35 PM, Moe Trin wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.periphs.printers, in article
, Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

Ant wrote:

Floyd L. Davidson typed:

Ah, I am trying to decide to buy cheaper older unopened ones or
pay more for the new ones.

How old?

Like a couple years old.

It varies - I've got two double boxes of HP60 Blacks with a "warranty
expires" date of "June 2012" bought about 2 years ago and stored in
the same place. Both cartridges in one box were DOA when I tried them
last month - one from the other box is working fine.

"... You need to know that the expiration date is
related to an unopened cartridge, but after that, I
would like to know when did you open it, also be aware
that this cartridge is almost two years old in your
possession, we do not advice tothe customers to have
cartridge storage for more than 6 months,

That is all true. Just be aware that they do NOT say
anything about whether the ink is good for 2 years or 10
years. They say they don't advise keeping it that
long... mostly because they are in the business of
selling ink.

BINGO!

If you throw away any ink that is 2 years
old and buy new ink, it's good for HP

or the other vendor you buy from. I've had good luck with
"remanufactured" (meaning refilled) cartridges from both OfficeMax
and Staples. Both will "buy" old/empty original, which further
reduces the costs.

Not so good for you...

Phil, depending on the amount of ink you use, you may want to compare
prices at Frys Electronics as well as the office supply and
department stores (typical 2 pack retail) verses a "bulk" package (I've
seen packages of 10) at a warehouse type stores like Costco.

Old guy

Now here's an advantage of laser printers over inkjets. The toner
doesn't wear out for years and years and years.

riserman

Ink cartridges with old dates?
 

I rarely print. Maybe a few pages per month. Hence, why I had this
almost two/2 years old ink cartridge. I managed to get HP to mail me a
replacement for free. :)
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On 8/23/2014 1:19 PM PT, riserman typed:
Now here's an advantage of laser printers over inkjets. The toner
doesn't wear out for years and years and years.

That will be my next printer when this one finally dies fully. Maybe its
color cartridge holder is broken? We'll see when I get another color
cartridge in about a week.
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