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Thomas Gill December 27th 04 11:52 PM

text ghosting
 
I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is:

Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is
displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an
ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it
then.

Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might
control this but can not find anything.

Any help?

Heywood December 28th 04 02:38 AM

You may try enabling cleartype in XP....It is made for flatpanel LCD
displays etc.

From XP Help....


"Open Display in Control Panel.
On the Appearance tab, click Effects.
In the Effects dialog box, select the Use the following method to
smooth edges of screen fonts check box.
Click ClearType in the list. "
Notes

"To open Display, click Start, click Control Panel, and then
double-click Display.
ClearType is ideal for portable computer and other flat screen
monitors. ClearType may appear slightly blurry on desktop computer
monitors.
Whether you select Standard or ClearType from the list, you must have
a video card and monitor that support a color setting of at least 256
colors. Best results are achieved with High color (24-bit) or Highest
color (32-bit) support. Click the Settings tab to set Color quality."




On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:52:07 GMT, Thomas Gill
wrote:

I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is:

Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is
displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an
ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it
then.

Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might
control this but can not find anything.

Any help?



Thomas Gill December 28th 04 03:23 AM

Heywood wrote:
You may try enabling cleartype in XP....It is made for flatpanel LCD
displays etc.

From XP Help....


thanks ... I have cleartype enabled and the highest res supported by
card/LCD ( 1280x1024 ). I have tested monitor with test-pattern
generator and non-text displays flawlessly ... ghosting only appears
with text display leading me to suspect problem is with the way it is
being rendered in XP.

Noozer December 28th 04 04:09 AM


"Thomas Gill" wrote in message
news:He1Ad.600767$%k.385757@pd7tw2no...
I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is:

Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is
displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an
ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it
then.

Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might
control this but can not find anything.


Cheap video cable. Is it analog or DVI?

Do you have the resolution set to the NATIVE resolution of the LCD monitor?



Thomas December 28th 04 09:24 AM

Thomas Gill wrote:
I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is:

Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is
displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an
ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice
it then.

Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might
control this but can not find anything.


Try this for change:

Go to system properties (right-click 'my computer'-icon for instance)
Go to the tab 'Advanced'
In the box 'performance' click 'Settings'-button
At visual effects select 'Adjust for best performance'

Yes, windows will look like windows 95 :-) But, there is some setting there
that makes the letters unclear on some displays. If the text is clear now,
you can re-enable the visual things until you see what is causing the
problem.

Good luck, hope this works.

Thomas.



mhicaoidh December 28th 04 05:43 PM

Taking a moment's reflection, Thomas Gill mused:
|
| thanks ... I have cleartype enabled and the highest res supported by
| card/LCD ( 1280x1024 ). I have tested monitor with test-pattern
| generator and non-text displays flawlessly ... ghosting only appears
| with text display leading me to suspect problem is with the way it is
| being rendered in XP.

Do you see this on all text in all apps, or just desktop/window icon
labels?



Thomas Gill December 28th 04 08:35 PM

mhicaoidh wrote:
Taking a moment's reflection, Thomas Gill mused:
|
| thanks ... I have cleartype enabled and the highest res supported by
| card/LCD ( 1280x1024 ). I have tested monitor with test-pattern
| generator and non-text displays flawlessly ... ghosting only appears
| with text display leading me to suspect problem is with the way it is
| being rendered in XP.

Do you see this on all text in all apps, or just desktop/window icon
labels?



Yes, the text ghosts in all Win apps. Other elements however, such as
borders and graphics will display cleanly.

Thomas Gill December 28th 04 08:37 PM

Noozer wrote:
"Thomas Gill" wrote in message
news:He1Ad.600767$%k.385757@pd7tw2no...

I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is:

Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is
displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an
ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it
then.

Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might
control this but can not find anything.



Cheap video cable. Is it analog or DVI?

Do you have the resolution set to the NATIVE resolution of the LCD monitor?




cable is analog though monitor is digital-capable. Not sure what NATIVE
resloution is ... am running at max supported by both monitor and 9200
card: 1280 x 1024

Thomas Gill December 28th 04 09:12 PM


Try this for change:

Go to system properties (right-click 'my computer'-icon for instance)
Go to the tab 'Advanced'
In the box 'performance' click 'Settings'-button
At visual effects select 'Adjust for best performance'

Yes, windows will look like windows 95 :-) But, there is some setting there
that makes the letters unclear on some displays. If the text is clear now,
you can re-enable the visual things until you see what is causing the
problem.

Good luck, hope this works.

Thomas.




Thanks ... good tip here ... these were the settings I was looking for.
Have disabled all effects but still does not make a difference. Maybe
will just have to live with it. Text also seems to ghost in Linux Gnome
environment. Think I will compare with other monitors to see if this
effect is common to all.

Pluvious December 28th 04 09:17 PM

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:38:52 -0800, Heywood wrote:

You may try enabling cleartype in XP....It is made for flatpanel LCD
displays etc.

From XP Help....


"Open Display in Control Panel.
On the Appearance tab, click Effects.
In the Effects dialog box, select the Use the following method to
smooth edges of screen fonts check box.
Click ClearType in the list. "
Notes

"To open Display, click Start, click Control Panel, and then
double-click Display.
ClearType is ideal for portable computer and other flat screen
monitors. ClearType may appear slightly blurry on desktop computer
monitors.
Whether you select Standard or ClearType from the list, you must have
a video card and monitor that support a color setting of at least 256
colors. Best results are achieved with High color (24-bit) or Highest
color (32-bit) support. Click the Settings tab to set Color quality."


After following these instuctions check out this M$ site to fine tune
it.

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ame=%20&fsize=

Pluvious



On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:52:07 GMT, Thomas Gill
wrote:

I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is:

Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is
displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an
ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it
then.

Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might
control this but can not find anything.

Any help?




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