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First of One[_2_] March 13th 09 04:00 AM

nVidia the new GM?
 
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=14551

Took me two attempts before I completely understood the last paragraph:

"The existence of the 9800 GT OC is a bit of a mystery, however. Its
specifications are similar to the old GeForce 9800 GTX, but it will be a
niche product that will end up competing against itself in the form of the
9800 GTX+/GTS 250."

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."



Phil Weldon[_2_] March 13th 09 09:42 PM

nVidia the new GM?
 
'First of One' wrote:
Took me two attempts before I completely understood the last paragraph:

"The existence of the 9800 GT OC is a bit of a mystery, however. Its
specifications are similar to the old GeForce 9800 GTX, but it will be a
niche product that will end up competing against itself in the form of the
9800 GTX+/GTS 250."

_____

The assembly lines are a lot cheaper, and 99% of the components are the
same. Plus the Universal Health Care system for Taiwan is a lot cheaper and
more efficient than the GM environment.
On a more serious note, I wonder what portion of nVidia output goes to
manufacturers like Dell who have so many self-competing models that they
probably need GPU solutions with micro-differences.

As for me, I'm waiting for a 10 X capability improvement before I upgrade my
graphics boards (photo-realistic 3D or nothing.)

Phil Weldon

"First of One" wrote in message
...
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=14551

Took me two attempts before I completely understood the last paragraph:

"The existence of the 9800 GT OC is a bit of a mystery, however. Its
specifications are similar to the old GeForce 9800 GTX, but it will be a
niche product that will end up competing against itself in the form of the
9800 GTX+/GTS 250."

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."




rms[_2_] March 14th 09 10:48 PM

nVidia the new GM?
 
As for me, I'm waiting for a 10 X capability improvement before I upgrade
my graphics boards (photo-realistic 3D or nothing.)


What will you do in the meantime for non-photorealistic 3D software,
made to run on intermediate hardware?

rms



Phil Weldon[_2_] March 15th 09 03:55 AM

nVidia the new GM?
 
'rms' wrote:
What will you do in the meantime for non-photorealistic 3D software,
made to run on intermediate hardware?

_____

Visual and photographic astronomy. The equipment is more expensive, but the
upgrade treadmill is MUCH slower. Optical and mount generations are about 8
years long, and the software requires only 2D for control and image
processing.

Phil Weldon



"rms" wrote in message
...
As for me, I'm waiting for a 10 X capability improvement before I upgrade
my graphics boards (photo-realistic 3D or nothing.)


What will you do in the meantime for non-photorealistic 3D software,
made to run on intermediate hardware?

rms



Blinky April 4th 09 12:41 AM

nVidia the new GM?
 

The difference is nVidia still makes the best vid cards going, while
GM hasn't made a decent car in many decades.

[email protected] April 4th 09 05:58 AM

nVidia the new GM?
 
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:00:01 -0400, "First of One"
brought the following to our attention:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=14551

Took me two attempts before I completely understood the last paragraph:

"The existence of the 9800 GT OC is a bit of a mystery, however. Its
specifications are similar to the old GeForce 9800 GTX, but it will be a
niche product that will end up competing against itself in the form of the
9800 GTX+/GTS 250."


The thing is.. nVIDIA doesn't employ vast thousands of employees as
parts and component suppliers, salesman, and mechanics. From looking
over the specs it seems like the 9800 GTX and 9800 GT OC are clocked
faster. Was also looking at a 1GB 98GT OC in the store today. Many GTX's
are dual width for extra cooling. Reducing feature size (i.e. to 55 nm)
usually means lower voltages and less power requirements / dissipation.

My recently acquired 9800 GT with 512MB isn't as power-hungry as led to
believe some months ago. In the few days that it's been running, some
data has been collected on it's temperature and fan.:

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/GPU_temp.gif

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Italy_mem_data.gif

The core temp has just crossed north of 60°C with the fan speeds still
low. That means it could probably be over-clocked a good bit while still
running cool enough. The case is well ventilated and it's fans `hunt´
now that the 9800 GT is in there. Sounds like it's breathing!! :))

-G


P.S.

FSX is working very well thus far, and I'm just delighted with what it
can do. It might be worth picking up a 1GB 9800 GTX dual-width with
heat out-da'-back vent (and clock with it) just to see what it could do.



DRS April 4th 09 09:52 AM

nVidia the new GM?
 
"Blinky" wrote in message

The difference is nVidia still makes the best vid cards going, while
GM hasn't made a decent car in many decades.


In America.




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