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Need printer advise
I have narrowed my printer choices down to 2.
1.Epson R220 2. Epson 1280 The R220 uses dye ink. Is this a "permanent" ink? By that I mean is it water resistant, or will it smear if it gets wet? I will be printing photos and CD/DVD's for self I would like to know the ink won't run if it gets wet (within reason) My HP used to run if you sneezed near it. The 1280 on the other hand uses pigment ink. Is there a print head clogging problem with this ink? Are there any printable CD's or DVD's that I should avoid? Any better than most? TIA for your opinion -- Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. Bob in Carmel, CA |
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ADVICE Allison, ADVICE. Gary Eickmeier |
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 02:41:51 GMT, Bob Allison
wrote: I have narrowed my printer choices down to 2. 1.Epson R220 2. Epson 1280 The R220 uses dye ink. Is this a "permanent" ink? By that I mean is it water resistant, or will it smear if it gets wet? I will be printing photos and CD/DVD's for self I would like to know the ink won't run if it gets wet (within reason) My HP used to run if you sneezed near it. No, it's not permanent. It's water resistant on Epson's photo paper, but not on plain paper or on CDs, though it will become more water resistant once the CD has dried for a few days. The 1280 on the other hand uses pigment ink. Is there a print head clogging problem with this ink? Are there any printable CD's or DVD's that I should avoid? Any better than most? TIA for your opinion Pigment ink is more waterproof than dye ink, but the 1280 uses their photographic pigment inks, and not the 'acrylic enamel' type in the DuraBrite printers. It may not be as waterproof, and will dry slower, but will be more water resistant than the R220 ink. It's also probably less likely to clog up because of this. I prefer Verbatim printable DVDs more for quality than for the print surface, but you shouldn't have a problem with any brand with the Epson printers. The Verbatim Silver Printable CD-Rs are apparently not compatible with Canon printers. Office Depot has stopped carrying Verbatim printables, unfortunately. Now they have Maxell, and I'm not sure about the quality of those. If you're lucky, you may be able to find the 100 stack of Verbatim Printable DVD-Rs on clearance at your local Office Depot. Mine put them down to $45 from $90. I have about 300 now, but when I restock I'll be more likely to go to BJs Wholesale Club, which has 50 Fuji printable DVD-Rs in jewel cases for $30. --- http://www.FenrirOnline.com Computer services, custom metal etching, arts, crafts, and much more. |
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Fenrir Enterprises wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2006 02:41:51 GMT, Bob Allison wrote: I have narrowed my printer choices down to 2. 1.Epson R220 2. Epson 1280 The R220 uses dye ink. Is this a "permanent" ink? By that I mean is it water resistant, or will it smear if it gets wet? I will be printing photos and CD/DVD's for self I would like to know the ink won't run if it gets wet (within reason) My HP used to run if you sneezed near it. certainly asking this in this forum will not yeild a satisfactory answer. here is the way to find out. call epson tech support or their 800 sales line. ask them to send you prints from the printers you are interested in on the paper you are interested in. they will send them to you. then wet them in the manner you are concerned about and see what happens. No, it's not permanent. It's water resistant on Epson's photo paper, but not on plain paper or on CDs, though it will become more water resistant once the CD has dried for a few days. The 1280 on the other hand uses pigment ink. Is there a print head clogging problem with this ink? printers that use pigment ink clog easier and the ink usually costs more. Are there any printable CD's or DVD's that I should avoid? Any better than most? TIA for your opinion Pigment ink is more waterproof than dye ink, but the 1280 uses their photographic pigment inks, and not the 'acrylic enamel' type in the DuraBrite printers. It may not be as waterproof, and will dry slower, but will be more water resistant than the R220 ink. It's also probably less likely to clog up because of this. I prefer Verbatim printable DVDs more for quality than for the print surface, but you shouldn't have a problem with any brand with the Epson printers. The Verbatim Silver Printable CD-Rs are apparently not compatible with Canon printers. Office Depot has stopped carrying Verbatim printables, unfortunately. Now they have Maxell, and I'm not sure about the quality of those. If you're lucky, you may be able to find the 100 stack of Verbatim Printable DVD-Rs on clearance at your local Office Depot. Mine put them down to $45 from $90. I have about 300 now, but when I restock I'll be more likely to go to BJs Wholesale Club, which has 50 Fuji printable DVD-Rs in jewel cases for $30. --- http://www.FenrirOnline.com Computer services, custom metal etching, arts, crafts, and much more. |
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measekite wrote:
Fenrir Enterprises wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2006 02:41:51 GMT, Bob Allison wrote: I have narrowed my printer choices down to 2. 1.Epson R220 2. Epson 1280 The R220 uses dye ink. Is this a "permanent" ink? By that I mean is it water resistant, or will it smear if it gets wet? I will be printing photos and CD/DVD's for self I would like to know the ink won't run if it gets wet (within reason) My HP used to run if you sneezed near it. certainly asking this in this forum will not yeild a satisfactory answer. here is the way to find out. call epson tech support or their 800 sales line. ask them to send you prints from the printers you are interested in on the paper you are interested in. they will send them to you. then wet them in the manner you are concerned about and see what happens. Will then send you prints on CDs? No, it's not permanent. It's water resistant on Epson's photo paper, but not on plain paper or on CDs, though it will become more water resistant once the CD has dried for a few days. The 1280 on the other hand uses pigment ink. Is there a print head clogging problem with this ink? printers that use pigment ink clog easier and the ink usually costs more. Are there any printable CD's or DVD's that I should avoid? Any better than most? TIA for your opinion Pigment ink is more waterproof than dye ink, but the 1280 uses their photographic pigment inks, and not the 'acrylic enamel' type in the DuraBrite printers. It may not be as waterproof, and will dry slower, but will be more water resistant than the R220 ink. It's also probably less likely to clog up because of this. I prefer Verbatim printable DVDs more for quality than for the print surface, but you shouldn't have a problem with any brand with the Epson printers. The Verbatim Silver Printable CD-Rs are apparently not compatible with Canon printers. Office Depot has stopped carrying Verbatim printables, unfortunately. Now they have Maxell, and I'm not sure about the quality of those. If you're lucky, you may be able to find the 100 stack of Verbatim Printable DVD-Rs on clearance at your local Office Depot. Mine put them down to $45 from $90. I have about 300 now, but when I restock I'll be more likely to go to BJs Wholesale Club, which has 50 Fuji printable DVD-Rs in jewel cases for $30. --- http://www.FenrirOnline.com Computer services, custom metal etching, arts, crafts, and much more. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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The 1280 is a dye based photoprinter. It is a very old design by digital
standards but still in the Epson line-up because it gives superb results on a variety of paper surfaces if you understand color management. The 1280 is slow, not cheap to run, subject to clogging and the printhead itself has a limited life expectancy and costs about half the price of a new printer to replace. Still I highly value my ancient 1280 and I have not seen any dye based printer from Canon or HP that compares. If you want a high quality printer and need to print CDs (why?) consider the 1800. The 1800 is pigment based and yields superb color, better b&w than the 1280 but subject to its own and generic Epson quirks. |
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The R1800 has produced some beautiful prints in the year I've owned it.
There has been no tendency for clogging even when I've let as much as a month go by without using it. My biggest annoyance is the expense of its cartridges and the fact that they are not particularly large. I intend to remedy that soon, as the OEM ink runs out by using refillable spongeless cartridges, which are easy and quick to refill, and compatible ink from MIS. Though some may find my decision to go that route wrong I find the evidence of using other MIS ink incontrovertibly positive to achieving excellent printing results with cost effective savings. -- Jan Alter or "bmoag" wrote in message om... The 1280 is a dye based photoprinter. It is a very old design by digital standards but still in the Epson line-up because it gives superb results on a variety of paper surfaces if you understand color management. The 1280 is slow, not cheap to run, subject to clogging and the printhead itself has a limited life expectancy and costs about half the price of a new printer to replace. Still I highly value my ancient 1280 and I have not seen any dye based printer from Canon or HP that compares. If you want a high quality printer and need to print CDs (why?) consider the 1800. The 1800 is pigment based and yields superb color, better b&w than the 1280 but subject to its own and generic Epson quirks. |
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Jan Alter wrote: The R1800 has produced some beautiful prints in the year I've owned it. There has been no tendency for clogging even when I've let as much as a month go by without using it. My biggest annoyance is the expense of its cartridges and the fact that they are not particularly large. I intend to remedy that soon, as the OEM ink runs out by using refillable spongeless cartridges, which are easy and quick to refill, and compatible ink from MIS. they will not disclose what they are selling. no clogging now but just wait. and the fact it is pigmented ink makes clogging more probable Though some may find my decision to go that route wrong I find the evidence of using other MIS ink incontrovertibly positive to achieving excellent printing results with cost effective savings. |
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