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[email protected] January 16th 20 05:19 PM
PCI-Z scan shows firewire 1394 on winfast NF4SK8AA motherboard ? WTF ?
 
The firewire thing looks suspicious to me, is PCI-Z also detecting it wrong ?

The motherboard manual of winfast NF4SK8AA-manual-En-V1.0.pdf.zip mentions nothing about firewire (ieee 1394) ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1394

PCI-Z Screenshot:

http://www.skybuck.org/Hardware/Drea...PC2006PCIZ.png

CVS link:

http://www.skybuck.org/Hardware/Drea...2006-PCI-Z.csv

CVS pasted he

Motherboard: NF-CK804 (BIOS version: 6.00 PG)
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, 2 logical CPUs
Available memory (MB): 3839
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 7
Computer name: DREAMPC2006 User name: Skybuck
Bridge;Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD];K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration;;Host bridge;1022:1100 0000:0000
Bridge;Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD];K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map;;Host bridge;1022:1101 0000:0000
Bridge;Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD];K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller;;Host bridge;1022:1102 0000:0000
Bridge;Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD];K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control;;Host bridge;1022:1103 0000:0000
Serial bus controller;Texas Instruments;TSB43AB22A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) [iOHCI-Lynx];;FireWire (IEEE 1394);104C:8023 105B:0CAB
Mass storage controller;Silicon Image, Inc.;SiI 3124 PCI-X Serial ATA Controller;;RAID bus controller;1095:3124 F98E:4EAF
Mass storage controller;Silicon Image, Inc.;SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller;;Mass storage controller;1095:3132 105B:0CAB
Bridge;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 ISA Bridge;;ISA bridge;10DE:0050 105B:0CA4
Serial bus controller;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 SMBus;;SMBus;10DE:0052 105B:0CA4
Mass storage controller;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 IDE;;IDE interface;10DE:0053 105B:0CA4
Mass storage controller;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 Serial ATA Controller;;IDE interface;10DE:0054 105B:0CA4
Mass storage controller;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 Serial ATA Controller;;IDE interface;10DE:0055 105B:0CA4
Bridge;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 Ethernet Controller;;Bridge;10DE:0057 105B:0CA4
Multimedia controller;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller;;Multimedia audio controller;10DE:0059 105B:0CAC
Serial bus controller;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 USB Controller;;USB controller;10DE:005A 105B:0CA4
Serial bus controller;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 USB Controller;;USB controller;10DE:005B 105B:0CA4
Bridge;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 PCI Bridge;;PCI bridge;10DE:005C 0000:0000
Bridge;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 PCIE Bridge;;PCI bridge;10DE:005D 0000:0000
Bridge;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 PCIE Bridge;;PCI bridge;10DE:005D 0000:0000
Bridge;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 PCIE Bridge;;PCI bridge;10DE:005D 0000:0000
Bridge;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 PCIE Bridge;;PCI bridge;10DE:005D 0000:0000
Memory controller;NVIDIA Corporation;CK804 Memory Controller;;Memory controller;10DE:005E 105B:0CA4
Multimedia controller;NVIDIA Corporation;GP108 High Definition Audio Controller;;Audio device;10DE:0FB8 1043:85F4
Display controller;NVIDIA Corporation;GP108 [GeForce GT 1030];;VGA compatible controller;10DE:1D01 1043:85F4
Multimedia controller;Creative Labs;EMU20k1 [Sound Blaster X-Fi Series];;Multimedia audio controller;1102:0005 1102:0022
Serial bus controller;VIA Technologies, Inc.;VL805 USB 3.0 Host Controller;;USB controller;1106:3483 1106:3483
Network controller;Marvell Technology Group Ltd.;88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller;;Ethernet controller;11AB:4362 105B:0CAB

Bye,
Skybuck.

P.S.: Or does my motherboard actually have firewire without me knowing about it ? ;) :)

[email protected] January 16th 20 05:25 PM
PCI-Z scan shows firewire 1394 on winfast NF4SK8AA motherboard ?WTF ?
 
Oh motherboard manual does mention it as optional... maybe it's on the motherboard, but no firewire connector on back i/o plate ?

Could also be a lie and it's actually a spy chip or something, weird.

Back i/o plate does not show any firewire connectors..

Bye,
Skybuck.

Paul[_28_] January 17th 20 01:22 AM
PCI-Z scan shows firewire 1394 on winfast NF4SK8AA motherboard? WTF ?
 
wrote:
Oh motherboard manual does mention it as optional... maybe it's on the motherboard, but no firewire connector on back i/o plate ?

Could also be a lie and it's actually a spy chip or something, weird.

Back i/o plate does not show any firewire connectors..

Bye,
Skybuck.

There could be a header on the motherboard for Firewire.

Check the lower left corner of the motherboard. The manual
says there could be two headers in that corner. If the
option is not installed, those headers will be missing
and not soldered into place. Notice that when doing
a text search in Adobe Acrobat, the "1394" string cannot
be found, even though the text is on PDF page number 12.

And they don't have to provide an I/O plate if they
don't want to.

For example, my fancy motherboard turned out to have
RS232 and I didn't know it at the time. I had to make
my own I/O plate out of materials on hand, so I could
use it.

I have a couple disk enclosures for Firewire, but they
have a 137GB disk size limit and are no good for modern
hardware. They're retired now. The enclosures used to
transfer at 30MB/sec (a bit slow for Firewire devices).
You need Firewire 800 to get a better transfer rate,
and to make the connectors useful for backups. I have
Firewire on computers here, but it's always the
cheap Firewire 400 stuff (slow). No Firewire 800 on
anything I own. And while Firewire 1600 was proposed,
I don't think it ever shipped as chips.

Paul

[email protected] January 21st 20 11:10 AM
PCI-Z scan shows firewire 1394 on winfast NF4SK8AA motherboard ?WTF ?
 
On Friday, January 17, 2020 at 2:22:02 AM UTC+1, Paul wrote:
wrote:
Oh motherboard manual does mention it as optional... maybe it's on the motherboard, but no firewire connector on back i/o plate ?

Could also be a lie and it's actually a spy chip or something, weird.

Back i/o plate does not show any firewire connectors..

Bye,
Skybuck.

There could be a header on the motherboard for Firewire.

Check the lower left corner of the motherboard. The manual
says there could be two headers in that corner. If the
option is not installed, those headers will be missing
and not soldered into place. Notice that when doing
a text search in Adobe Acrobat, the "1394" string cannot
be found, even though the text is on PDF page number 12.

And they don't have to provide an I/O plate if they
don't want to.

It's indeed soldered off, so no pins, no headers.

It's so weird, why would they do this ?

If there was firewire on it then I would probably have experimented with it =D

Bye,
Skybuck.


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