Dual layer, DVD/CD+/-R/W/RAM, pref.external, does it exist yet?
 

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:28:44 -0800,
lid wrote:

Does anybody know if these exist, or are coming out any time soon?

Yeah, sort of. If you buy an external ATAPI enclosure, you can shove
in any 5" ATAPI/IDE drive. That includes the multitude of ATAPI DVD
burners. Since LG has internal drives that meet compatibility
criteria, if you buy one of those and an enclosure, you're set.

The considerations for enclosures basically comes down to chipset
(some are better at DMA support than others), connection (Firewire or
USB2.0). Other considerations might be physical size (some use an
internal power supply, others use an external power "brick" or "wall
wart"), and personal taste in styling.

I won't even presume to recommend one over another, as I've not had a
need for an external drive so far, so I haven't looked into it all
that much.

In case you didn't get the abbr, I'm talking a dual layer DVD burner that
can do: DVD +R, -R, +RW, -RW, RAM, as well as CD +R, - R, +RW, -RW.

If someone doesn't get your earlier abbreviations, how will throwing
more abbreviations (some of them totally made up) clear things up?

There's no such thing as CD+R or CD+RW. CD-R and CD-RW fall under the
Philips standard. If you want to nitpick, use the dash to be
technically correct, but for the most part I'd consider it optional.

That said, AFAIK there is only one released standard for dual layer
burning (I think +, but I can't remember) and I'm not sure if it can do RW
or just R.
Anybody know anything about any of this?
Rumors count :)

Nope. There are actually two standards formalized now. Dual layer
DVD-R (DVD-R DL) was recently formalized by the DVD forum (this makes
it the "official" dual layer standard, whatever that means now).
Straight form the horse's mouth:

http://www.dvdforum.org/forum.shtml

You already know about DVD+R DL from the "rebel" alliance.

http://www.dvdrw.org

I haven't seen any DVD-R DL discs yet though, but a few drive
manufacturers have promised firmware updates to existing DVD+R DL
drives to add the DVD-R DL burning support (eventually).
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MCheu

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Does anybody know if these exist, or are coming out any time soon?
In case you didn't get the abbr, I'm talking a dual layer DVD burner that
can do: DVD +R, -R, +RW, -RW, RAM, as well as CD +R, - R, +RW, -RW.
That said, AFAIK there is only one released standard for dual layer
burning (I think +, but I can't remember) and I'm not sure if it can do RW
or just R.


Seeing that there is no such thing as CD-R and CD+R I think you need to do a
bit more studying and figure out what you actually want.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:28:44 -0800,
lid wrote:

Does anybody know if these exist, or are coming out any time soon?
In case you didn't get the abbr, I'm talking a dual layer DVD burner that
can do: DVD +R, -R, +RW, -RW, RAM, as well as CD +R, - R, +RW, -RW.
That said, AFAIK there is only one released standard for dual layer
burning (I think +, but I can't remember) and I'm not sure if it can do RW
or just R.
Anybody know anything about any of this?
Rumors count :)


I never heard of CD-R and CD+R or +RW and -RW. Only CDR or CDRW.

I have just bought an NEC 3520 drive which supports the ne dual layre format
but only in + at this time. It is compatible for use with -RDL when the
media is available.
"James Clifford" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:28:44 -0800,
lid wrote:

Does anybody know if these exist, or are coming out any time soon?
In case you didn't get the abbr, I'm talking a dual layer DVD burner that
can do: DVD +R, -R, +RW, -RW, RAM, as well as CD +R, - R, +RW, -RW.
That said, AFAIK there is only one released standard for dual layer
burning (I think +, but I can't remember) and I'm not sure if it can do RW
or just R.
Anybody know anything about any of this?
Rumors count :)


I never heard of CD-R and CD+R or +RW and -RW. Only CDR or CDRW.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:28:44 -0800,
lid wrote:

Does anybody know if these exist, or are coming out any time soon?
In case you didn't get the abbr, I'm talking a dual layer DVD burner that
can do: DVD +R, -R, +RW, -RW, RAM, as well as CD +R, - R, +RW, -RW.
That said, AFAIK there is only one released standard for dual layer
burning (I think +, but I can't remember) and I'm not sure if it can do RW
or just R.
Anybody know anything about any of this?
Rumors count :)

Probably a bit late, and ignoring the whole argument about what's the
right way to write CD-R ("CD-R" or "CDR"), here's a recent review of
an external drive from LG that fits what you're looking for.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/176

It does all the major formats:

DVD+R
DVD-R

DVD+R DL
(presumably DVD-R DL may be addressed in a future firmware update, as
was hinted at for their internal version -- I say hinted at, because
it wasn't specifically "promised" per se)

DVD+RW
DVD-RW
DVD-RAM

CD-R
CD-RW

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MCheu