Presario 1800 reformat/update?
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought
him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
Have you tried to install the optional windows components? eg: the networks
add-ons? Dave "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your
home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
I've had Win2K running on one of these laptops for years without a glitch. I
can't imagine why XP doesn't seem to work, (well maybe a touchpad problem or two), but you can always go with Win2K. If it needed a special driver for Win2K, I probably have it somewhere so give me a shout should you decide on the latter and need one. I haven't been to Support since the HP take over so I wouldn't know what they have available. "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
XP has been fine, except for this inability to join the home network and
print through it. This Presario has been my son's sole computer at college for 2+ years, with a printer. In that situation he didn't need to network with anyone and it was fine (except of course the harddrive is too small!). But when home for weekends and summer he could never print. We never figured it out' just put up with it. The web site has a place to "Chat Online" http://atwnt333.external.hp.com/bus-...chat_pilot.asp so I'll try that to ask about drivers. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message om... I've had Win2K running on one of these laptops for years without a glitch. I can't imagine why XP doesn't seem to work, (well maybe a touchpad problem or two), but you can always go with Win2K. If it needed a special driver for Win2K, I probably have it somewhere so give me a shout should you decide on the latter and need one. I haven't been to Support since the HP take over so I wouldn't know what they have available. "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
Network Connections - Advanced (on tool bar)- Optional Network Components.
Try Networking Services - Details button. I guess I would compare it to another machine running XP Pro that is working on your network. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
Make sure 'Obtain DNS server address automatically' is checked under Local
Area Connection Properties - Internet Protocol - Properties. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
No, none of those are worth installing.
To access your router, go to start,run and type in its ip address like http://192.168.1.1. The numbers will be the same as your computers ip addresses except the last one will be 1. You may need a password; check the manual. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
Thanks for the router access method, Terry.
I got there and see several choices and options there. And my son just pointed out that there's a tollfree support phone # on the Belkin box. I'll pursue these before reinstalling WinXP. (I'm sorry ... I just don't remember having to do any of this when I got the NetGear router in 2001.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:hLDKb.178943$ss5.5972@clgrps13... No, none of those are worth installing. To access your router, go to start,run and type in its ip address like http://192.168.1.1. The numbers will be the same as your computers ip addresses except the last one will be 1. You may need a password; check the manual. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
This makes me think the problem is something to do with Simple File Sharing.
As I can't remember where that leads, I am providing a link with more info. http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network?
Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But
it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
You do know NTFS can read Fat32 but Fat32 can't see NTFS right?
"just checking the obvious that's all" Dave "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
Trai' La Trash wrote:
You do know NTFS can read Fat32 but Fat32 can't see NTFS right? It's not entirely clear what you mean by that, but if it's what I'm guessing you mean, it's not true. When you connect to a share across a network, it doesn't matter whether the computer you're using could recognize the filesystem that share resides on. For example, Windows 95 and 98 system don't support NTFS, but they can connect to an XP system and read and write NTFS files on that XP system. -Mike |
I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm.
Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked,
didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
I'm not sure about that ... but most shared folders (music, photos, docs)
are on the FAT32 partitions. And the old Gateway (FAT32) can tap into everything. My main concern is that I'd like to be able to PRINT. Nan "Trai' La Trash" wrote in message ... You do know NTFS can read Fat32 but Fat32 can't see NTFS right? "just checking the obvious that's all" Dave "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere.
I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
Both names are listed because the Netgear router didn't update its database
to remove the old name. The only problem with duplicate names applies to you having 2 or more computers on the same network with the same name. If you look at the list of names on the router, you will be able to tell if any are duplicated. You can add a printer to an xp machine from Control Panel - Printers and other hardware. Assuming you have the printer attached to another computer, you would choose Network Printer. If the wizard can find it, it will give you the appropriate directions to add it to the Compaq. I have no idea whether this will work as you can't share files. But its worth a try. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
Check for hidden spaces in the computer names and workgroups.
Occasionally an leading or trailing space ends up causing a bit of problem connecting to the workgroup and/or the other computers in the workgroup. KC "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
I tried to install the network printer several times but couldn't because of
that same problem -- not seeing the Dell computer it's attached to. I wish there was some way to install the printer using just the IP address (which it can ping), bypassing name of computer it's attached to. I tried typing that in, but it just wouldn't take it. I wonder if that's possible somehow? (I have a 256mb usb drive, so the lack of file sharing will be only a little inconvenient.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:%TYKb.183831$ss5.132903@clgrps13... Both names are listed because the Netgear router didn't update its database to remove the old name. The only problem with duplicate names applies to you having 2 or more computers on the same network with the same name. If you look at the list of names on the router, you will be able to tell if any are duplicated. You can add a printer to an xp machine from Control Panel - Printers and other hardware. Assuming you have the printer attached to another computer, you would choose Network Printer. If the wizard can find it, it will give you the appropriate directions to add it to the Compaq. I have no idea whether this will work as you can't share files. But its worth a try. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
You could always buy a stand alone print server device? Not the best
solution, but an option should all else fail. KC "Whelan" wrote in message ... I tried to install the network printer several times but couldn't because of that same problem -- not seeing the Dell computer it's attached to. I wish there was some way to install the printer using just the IP address (which it can ping), bypassing name of computer it's attached to. I tried typing that in, but it just wouldn't take it. I wonder if that's possible somehow? (I have a 256mb usb drive, so the lack of file sharing will be only a little inconvenient.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:%TYKb.183831$ss5.132903@clgrps13... Both names are listed because the Netgear router didn't update its database to remove the old name. The only problem with duplicate names applies to you having 2 or more computers on the same network with the same name. If you look at the list of names on the router, you will be able to tell if any are duplicated. You can add a printer to an xp machine from Control Panel - Printers and other hardware. Assuming you have the printer attached to another computer, you would choose Network Printer. If the wizard can find it, it will give you the appropriate directions to add it to the Compaq. I have no idea whether this will work as you can't share files. But its worth a try. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
I have a 4p router with parallel port print server on my net that works
flawless. My sharing is all turned off and all systems print directly to the router. In most cases you can get the router with print server built-in for less than the cost of a stand alone net print server. Check the prices, I paid $40 US for mine. "Whelan" wrote in message ... I tried to install the network printer several times but couldn't because of that same problem -- not seeing the Dell computer it's attached to. I wish there was some way to install the printer using just the IP address (which it can ping), bypassing name of computer it's attached to. I tried typing that in, but it just wouldn't take it. I wonder if that's possible somehow? (I have a 256mb usb drive, so the lack of file sharing will be only a little inconvenient.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:%TYKb.183831$ss5.132903@clgrps13... Both names are listed because the Netgear router didn't update its database to remove the old name. The only problem with duplicate names applies to you having 2 or more computers on the same network with the same name. If you look at the list of names on the router, you will be able to tell if any are duplicated. You can add a printer to an xp machine from Control Panel - Printers and other hardware. Assuming you have the printer attached to another computer, you would choose Network Printer. If the wizard can find it, it will give you the appropriate directions to add it to the Compaq. I have no idea whether this will work as you can't share files. But its worth a try. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
I give up. Maybe one of the services that XP requires is turned off. I don't
know which ones do what so I can't help there. If you have a real copy of XP, have you tried a repair install? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I tried to install the network printer several times but couldn't because of that same problem -- not seeing the Dell computer it's attached to. I wish there was some way to install the printer using just the IP address (which it can ping), bypassing name of computer it's attached to. I tried typing that in, but it just wouldn't take it. I wonder if that's possible somehow? (I have a 256mb usb drive, so the lack of file sharing will be only a little inconvenient.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:%TYKb.183831$ss5.132903@clgrps13... Both names are listed because the Netgear router didn't update its database to remove the old name. The only problem with duplicate names applies to you having 2 or more computers on the same network with the same name. If you look at the list of names on the router, you will be able to tell if any are duplicated. You can add a printer to an xp machine from Control Panel - Printers and other hardware. Assuming you have the printer attached to another computer, you would choose Network Printer. If the wizard can find it, it will give you the appropriate directions to add it to the Compaq. I have no idea whether this will work as you can't share files. But its worth a try. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
That's interesting. I've noticed the "computer name" displays followed by a
period on the Compaq. I haven't noticed that on the others (but it may be there). Would you just check that by going to the Computer Name tabs? Nan "Kevin Childers" wrote in message ... Check for hidden spaces in the computer names and workgroups. Occasionally an leading or trailing space ends up causing a bit of problem connecting to the workgroup and/or the other computers in the workgroup. KC "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
No, I haven't and that sounds worth trying. (I just don't understand what
the missing piece is!) Do you know how to approach a repair install? (Pop in CD or boot from CD, etc?) On the other hand, do you think there's any chance that Belkin support could walk me through something that will fix it? Nan "tc" wrote in message news:dj6Lb.47973$Dm.5372@edtnps89... I give up. Maybe one of the services that XP requires is turned off. I don't know which ones do what so I can't help there. If you have a real copy of XP, have you tried a repair install? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I tried to install the network printer several times but couldn't because of that same problem -- not seeing the Dell computer it's attached to. I wish there was some way to install the printer using just the IP address (which it can ping), bypassing name of computer it's attached to. I tried typing that in, but it just wouldn't take it. I wonder if that's possible somehow? (I have a 256mb usb drive, so the lack of file sharing will be only a little inconvenient.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:%TYKb.183831$ss5.132903@clgrps13... Both names are listed because the Netgear router didn't update its database to remove the old name. The only problem with duplicate names applies to you having 2 or more computers on the same network with the same name. If you look at the list of names on the router, you will be able to tell if any are duplicated. You can add a printer to an xp machine from Control Panel - Printers and other hardware. Assuming you have the printer attached to another computer, you would choose Network Printer. If the wizard can find it, it will give you the appropriate directions to add it to the Compaq. I have no idea whether this will work as you can't share files. But its worth a try. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
XP can be a pain in the a** on a small home network. Here is what you
need to do. 1) make sure that the usernames are the same on all workgroup computers. For example, if you log into the laptop with the username BOB, create a user called BOB on all the workgroup computers. The password should match too. 2)Start from scratch. Remove everything from the network properties boxes. Remove ALL the network adapters (from device manager). 3) Reboot 4) Now your NIC card should reinstall itself. XP has this (horrific) home networking wizard. You should be able to follow through the wizzard and it should work for you now. Enable file and print sharing. Check "allow users to change my files" 5) reboot (god I love Windows) 6) it should work now. If you are still having troubles, try "my Network places" and "view ENTIRE contents of network" The other thing to try is on your TCP/IP properities set your Default gateway to 192.168.1.1. You can leave everything else the same, such as Obtain IP address automatically and obtain DNS automatically. |
More than you ever wanted to know about services and a listing of the
default at www.blackviper.com. Boot from real XP cd. Don't choose the r option, go to install. XP will find the existing install and ask if you want to repair it. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... No, I haven't and that sounds worth trying. (I just don't understand what the missing piece is!) Do you know how to approach a repair install? (Pop in CD or boot from CD, etc?) On the other hand, do you think there's any chance that Belkin support could walk me through something that will fix it? Nan "tc" wrote in message news:dj6Lb.47973$Dm.5372@edtnps89... I give up. Maybe one of the services that XP requires is turned off. I don't know which ones do what so I can't help there. If you have a real copy of XP, have you tried a repair install? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I tried to install the network printer several times but couldn't because of that same problem -- not seeing the Dell computer it's attached to. I wish there was some way to install the printer using just the IP address (which it can ping), bypassing name of computer it's attached to. I tried typing that in, but it just wouldn't take it. I wonder if that's possible somehow? (I have a 256mb usb drive, so the lack of file sharing will be only a little inconvenient.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:%TYKb.183831$ss5.132903@clgrps13... Both names are listed because the Netgear router didn't update its database to remove the old name. The only problem with duplicate names applies to you having 2 or more computers on the same network with the same name. If you look at the list of names on the router, you will be able to tell if any are duplicated. You can add a printer to an xp machine from Control Panel - Printers and other hardware. Assuming you have the printer attached to another computer, you would choose Network Printer. If the wizard can find it, it will give you the appropriate directions to add it to the Compaq. I have no idea whether this will work as you can't share files. But its worth a try. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
Sounds interesting. Just looked them up; the cheapest was $59. Since I have
a desktop available, I'll try to live without printing for a while. But thanks for the idea. Nan "Kevin Childers" wrote in message ... You could always buy a stand alone print server device? Not the best solution, but an option should all else fail. KC "Whelan" wrote in message ... I tried to install the network printer several times but couldn't because of that same problem -- not seeing the Dell computer it's attached to. I wish there was some way to install the printer using just the IP address (which it can ping), bypassing name of computer it's attached to. I tried typing that in, but it just wouldn't take it. I wonder if that's possible somehow? (I have a 256mb usb drive, so the lack of file sharing will be only a little inconvenient.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:%TYKb.183831$ss5.132903@clgrps13... Both names are listed because the Netgear router didn't update its database to remove the old name. The only problem with duplicate names applies to you having 2 or more computers on the same network with the same name. If you look at the list of names on the router, you will be able to tell if any are duplicated. You can add a printer to an xp machine from Control Panel - Printers and other hardware. Assuming you have the printer attached to another computer, you would choose Network Printer. If the wizard can find it, it will give you the appropriate directions to add it to the Compaq. I have no idea whether this will work as you can't share files. But its worth a try. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
Thanks.
I'm so sick of rking on this. I don't have the energy to try the 6 steps now, but I've printed them to try later. Re your last idea, ... my router is 192.168.2.1. Should I try 1.1 or 2.1? "the yeti" wrote in message om... XP can be a pain in the a** on a small home network. Here is what you need to do. 1) make sure that the usernames are the same on all workgroup computers. For example, if you log into the laptop with the username BOB, create a user called BOB on all the workgroup computers. The password should match too. 2)Start from scratch. Remove everything from the network properties boxes. Remove ALL the network adapters (from device manager). 3) Reboot 4) Now your NIC card should reinstall itself. XP has this (horrific) home networking wizard. You should be able to follow through the wizzard and it should work for you now. Enable file and print sharing. Check "allow users to change my files" 5) reboot (god I love Windows) 6) it should work now. If you are still having troubles, try "my Network places" and "view ENTIRE contents of network" The other thing to try is on your TCP/IP properities set your Default gateway to 192.168.1.1. You can leave everything else the same, such as Obtain IP address automatically and obtain DNS automatically. |
Re your last idea, ... my router is 192.168.2.1. Should I try 1.1 or 2.1? The other thing to try is on your TCP/IP properities set your Default gateway to 192.168.1.1. You can leave everything else the same, such as Obtain IP address automatically and obtain DNS automatically. If your router is 192.168.2.1, than that is what your gateway should be. |
Did a quick check, here's one for a little cheaper but it looks cheap too
and out of stock. http://www.pcbay.net/gen4porinrou.html "Whelan" wrote in message ... Sounds interesting. Just looked them up; the cheapest was $59. Since I have a desktop available, I'll try to live without printing for a while. But thanks for the idea. Nan "Kevin Childers" wrote in message ... You could always buy a stand alone print server device? Not the best solution, but an option should all else fail. KC "Whelan" wrote in message ... I tried to install the network printer several times but couldn't because of that same problem -- not seeing the Dell computer it's attached to. I wish there was some way to install the printer using just the IP address (which it can ping), bypassing name of computer it's attached to. I tried typing that in, but it just wouldn't take it. I wonder if that's possible somehow? (I have a 256mb usb drive, so the lack of file sharing will be only a little inconvenient.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:%TYKb.183831$ss5.132903@clgrps13... Both names are listed because the Netgear router didn't update its database to remove the old name. The only problem with duplicate names applies to you having 2 or more computers on the same network with the same name. If you look at the list of names on the router, you will be able to tell if any are duplicated. You can add a printer to an xp machine from Control Panel - Printers and other hardware. Assuming you have the printer attached to another computer, you would choose Network Printer. If the wizard can find it, it will give you the appropriate directions to add it to the Compaq. I have no idea whether this will work as you can't share files. But its worth a try. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Yep, 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' is checked everywhere. I've been reading the Belkin manual and I went to the router by running 192.168.2.1 and found MAC addresses. And from some tips there about "adding computer" I was able to get the compaq's wireless card to see the router and it can connect to the internet. That added an additional IP address for the Compaq. But both ways, the Compaq can only ping with the others by IP addresses, not name. A microsoft troubleshooter said the computer name might be a duplicate, so I changed it to PRESARIO. Now both names get listed but neither is accessible. I'm very happy to have wireless internet access on the Compaq now. I can probably share most files by a USB drive. I just wish I could print! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:3SNKb.182313$ss5.156707@clgrps13... You did confirm that 'Obtain DNS Server address automatically' was checked, didn't you? Terry "tc" wrote in message news:aMNKb.182280$ss5.133591@clgrps13... I don't think Simple File Sharing applies if you are running Fat32. Hmmm. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 |
"tc" wrote in message news:xakLb.191719$ss5.126407@clgrps13... More than you ever wanted to know about services and a listing of the default at www.blackviper.com. Just for the record I tried blackvipers XP suggestions (step by step) just recently and it SLOWED down the machine I tried it on. I went to www.pcpitstop.com ran the test then did the tweaks and my score went down. Un-did them and my score went back up. Trai' |
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