You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13...
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89...
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89...
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan

No, none of those are worth installing.
To access your router, go to start,run and type in its ip address like
http://192.168.1.1. The numbers will be the same as your computers ip
addresses except the last one will be 1. You may need a password; check the
manual.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13...
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89...
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89...
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan

Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13...
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89...
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89...
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004

The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of
the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called
Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I
saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13...
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2
computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of
the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89...
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer
on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89...
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be
able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800
laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer
2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP?
Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any
chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004

Thanks for the router access method, Terry.
I got there and see several choices and options there.
And my son just pointed out that there's a tollfree support phone # on the
Belkin box. I'll pursue these before reinstalling WinXP.
(I'm sorry ... I just don't remember having to do any of this when I got the
NetGear router in 2001.)
Nan
"tc" wrote in message
news:hLDKb.178943$ss5.5972@clgrps13...
No, none of those are worth installing.
To access your router, go to start,run and type in its ip address like
http://192.168.1.1. The numbers will be the same as your computers ip
addresses except the last one will be 1. You may need a password; check
the
manual.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called
Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I
saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13...
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2
computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of
the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89...
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer
on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89...
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be
able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800
laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer
2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP?
Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any
chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan

This makes me think the problem is something to do with Simple File Sharing.
As I can't remember where that leads, I am providing a link with more info.
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too.
Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on
the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if
you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the
hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if
you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put
a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of
the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe
it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks"
or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called
Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I
saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13...
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2
computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of
the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and
IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP
address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits
of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks
add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89...
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer
on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89...
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be
able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800
laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home
network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer
2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the
Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP?
Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any
chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004

What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too.
Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on
the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if
you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the
hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if
you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put
a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of
the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe
it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks"
or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called
Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I
saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13...
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2
computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of
the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and
IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP
address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits
of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks
add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89...
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer
on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89...
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be
able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800
laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home
network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer
2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the
Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP?
Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any
chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














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SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But
it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name.

I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to
NTFS file system.
I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a
problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share
anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition.
Nan
Back to those articles.

"tc" wrote in message
news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13...
What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too.
Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on
the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if
you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the
hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if
you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and
put
a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME
of
the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe
it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks"
or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called
Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol.
(I
saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13...
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2
computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list
of
the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to
try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3
different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop,
a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the
Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see
each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name
and
IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP
address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2
digits
of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks
add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89...
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other
computer
on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89...
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should
be
able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check
to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800
laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home
network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer
2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have
tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the
Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with
XP?
Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what
I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any
chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004

You do know NTFS can read Fat32 but Fat32 can't see NTFS right?

"just checking the obvious that's all"

Dave
"Whelan" wrote in message
...
SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But
it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name.

I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to
NTFS file system.
I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be
a
problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share
anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition.
Nan
Back to those articles.

"tc" wrote in message
news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13...
What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked
too.
Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and
Protocol.
The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ.

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears
on
the
list, but when I click on it I get:
"\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out
if
you
have access permissions. The network path was not found. "

When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the
hourglass
for 20 seconds, then:
"SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out
if
you
have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not
currently available."

Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name
several times, but no result.
Nan

"Thagor" wrote in message
y.com...
Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and
put
a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME
of
the
Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly.


"Whelan" wrote in message
...
You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?"
I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe
it's
in
the router manual.)

Re Optional Network Components,
I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status,
Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft
Networks"
or
"Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called
Install.
Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol.
(I
saw
these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.)
Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you
add
Service
Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6
Developer
Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS
Compatible
Transport Protocol.
Are any of those worth adding?

The computers appear the same in these settings.
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13...
The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2
computers
with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a
list
of
the
computers by name and ip address?
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to
try.
The firewall is off.
I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3
different
workgroup
names actually, with many reboots).

I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500
desktop,
a
Gateway
Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the
Presario
1800.
They
all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see
each
others'
shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the
workgroup
name.

Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name
and
IP
address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP
address.

The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2
digits
of
the
addresses).

What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks
add-ons"
that
Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD?
That might be worth a try!
Nan

"tc" wrote in message
news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89...
Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other
computer
on
your
home network.
Terry

"tc" wrote in message
news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89...
It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should
be
able
to
access
your network. Assuming you are using a router and the
other
machines
are
networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be?
Check
to
make
sure
your XP firewall is turned off.
Terry

"Whelan" wrote in message
...
I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800
laptop.
(I
bought
him a replacement.)

This Presario has never been able to tap into our home
network
for
printing
or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it
summer
2002.
However
it
can use DSL through our router. This last week I have
tried
furiously
to
solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the
Dell
message
boards, but nothing works.

It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and
reinstall
Win
XPPro
to have any hope of networking it.

Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with
XP?
Was
it
difficult
to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding
what
I
need,
so
far,
on
the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000.

(We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001...
Any
chance
Compaq
would provide support of the type I need by phone?)

Nan














---

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004

Trai' La Trash wrote:
You do know NTFS can read Fat32 but Fat32 can't see NTFS right?

It's not entirely clear what you mean by that, but if it's what I'm guessing
you mean, it's not true. When you connect to a share across a network, it
doesn't matter whether the computer you're using could recognize the
filesystem that share resides on. For example, Windows 95 and 98 system
don't support NTFS, but they can connect to an XP system and read and write
NTFS files on that XP system.

-Mike