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Flasherly[_2_] July 31st 14 07:15 PM

AMD's newest chip
 
12 cores - 8 however are video.

Without a defining game does that definitively mean it's another quad
core?

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2358234/
amd-finally-releases-kaveri-a-series-apus-with-12-compute-cores-for-better-desktop-gaming

Yousuf Khan[_2_] August 1st 14 03:57 AM

AMD's newest chip
 
On 31/07/2014 2:15 PM, Flasherly wrote:
12 cores - 8 however are video.

Without a defining game does that definitively mean it's another quad
core?

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2358234/
amd-finally-releases-kaveri-a-series-apus-with-12-compute-cores-for-better-desktop-gaming


Yes, it's a quad-core.

Yousuf Khan

Mark[_23_] August 1st 14 10:04 AM

AMD's newest chip
 
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:57:17 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 31/07/2014 2:15 PM, Flasherly wrote:
12 cores - 8 however are video.

Without a defining game does that definitively mean it's another quad
core?

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2358234/
amd-finally-releases-kaveri-a-series-apus-with-12-compute-cores-for-better-desktop-gaming


Yes, it's a quad-core.


And this is old news. I've had a A10-7850 APU since the spring.
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Flasherly[_2_] August 1st 14 11:35 AM

AMD's newest chip
 
On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 10:04:56 +0100, Mark
wrote:

And this is old news. I've had a A10-7850 APU since the spring.


Ah. Read a recent article and switched to a review and forgotten I'd
switched. Sorry about that.

Mark[_23_] August 1st 14 12:16 PM

AMD's newest chip
 
On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 06:35:21 -0400, Flasherly
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 10:04:56 +0100, Mark
wrote:

And this is old news. I've had a A10-7850 APU since the spring.


Ah. Read a recent article and switched to a review and forgotten I'd
switched. Sorry about that.


No apology necessary :-) They've added a couple of new APUs to the
range recently.
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(\__/) M.
(='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around
(")_(") is he still wrong?


[email protected] August 1st 14 02:22 PM

AMD's newest chip
 
On Friday, August 1, 2014 2:15:51 AM UTC+8, Flasherly wrote:
12 cores - 8 however are video.


How many watts does it burn up with 12 cores going hammer and tongs?

Flasherly[_2_] August 1st 14 05:07 PM

AMD's newest chip
 
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 06:22:25 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, August 1, 2014 2:15:51 AM UTC+8, Flasherly wrote:
12 cores - 8 however are video.


How many watts does it burn up with 12 cores going hammer and tongs?


28micron die technology...not much - w/out charts, in an idle state
20watts, loaded 80w if that.

Yousuf Khan[_2_] August 3rd 14 07:32 PM

AMD's newest chip
 
On 01/08/2014 9:22 AM, wrote:
On Friday, August 1, 2014 2:15:51 AM UTC+8, Flasherly wrote:
12 cores - 8 however are video.


How many watts does it burn up with 12 cores going hammer and tongs?


That's one of the interesting things about the new 12 "core" APU, it has
two modes, a 65W mode, and a 45W mode. In the higher consumption mode,
it's full balls out. But in the lower consumption mode, it reduces the
performance, for sure, but it relies more on turbo to make up for the
performance differential, and apparently it's only 6-7% lower
performance than in 65W mode. But you get a 30% reduction in power
consumption for your troubles too.

Yousuf Khan


Flasherly[_2_] August 4th 14 01:21 AM

AMD's newest chip
 
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:32:04 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

but it relies more on turbo to make up for the
performance differential, and apparently it's only 6-7% lower
performance than in 65W mode. But you get a 30% reduction in power
consumption for your troubles too.



Geeky. America's server racks are the most intensive cosummer of its
nuclear/fossil/hydo fuel sources. Not that 8 graphic cores are in
need variously to shuffle bandwidths, though billions of dollars and
30-percentile returns are astronomical figures for cumulative amounts.

[email protected] August 14th 14 02:45 PM

AMD's newest chip
 
On Monday, August 4, 2014 8:21:30 AM UTC+8, Flasherly wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:32:04 -0400, Yousuf Khan

wrote:



but it relies more on turbo to make up for the


performance differential, and apparently it's only 6-7% lower


performance than in 65W mode. But you get a 30% reduction in power


consumption for your troubles too.






Geeky. America's server racks are the most intensive cosummer of its

nuclear/fossil/hydo fuel sources. Not that 8 graphic cores are in

need variously to shuffle bandwidths, though billions of dollars and

30-percentile returns are astronomical figures for cumulative amounts.


I wonder if this AMD trickery would be applicable to HPC clusters.
There you typically have all cores going 100% on some parallel crunching.
On a desktop, you tend to get different loads on each core, so you can
do the turbo/overdrive on some and low-power on others.


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