amd or intel?
I am intel celeron 333mhz user.., I recently decided to buy a new
computer. The system is most propably going to be used to run a linux version and do some serious programming. May be a little bit of games, movies.. and multimedia can also be thoght of in the Things-to-do list. I was thinking of buying an AMD64 3ghz based computer. But my friends are advicing me to go for an Intel pentium 2.8 HT system. They argue that AMD is unreliable and overheating of the cpu is very common. They said that for saving money i must not compramise on reliablity and performance in the long run. What should i buy: an intel based system or an AMD? |
Codemutant wrote:
I am intel celeron 333mhz user.., I recently decided to buy a new computer. The system is most propably going to be used to run a linux version and do some serious programming. May be a little bit of games, movies.. and multimedia can also be thoght of in the Things-to-do list. I was thinking of buying an AMD64 3ghz based computer But my friends are advicing me to go for an Intel pentium 2.8 HT system. They argue that AMD is unreliable and overheating of the cpu is very common. They said that for saving money i must not compramise on reliablity and performance in the long run. What should i buy: an intel based system or an AMD? Your friends are ill-advised. The power consumption of an AMD64 is WAY below that of an Intel, and thus it is cooler. Overheating IS NOT a common problem when the heatsink is installed the correct way round. Compilation on an AMD is quicker than on Intel. AMD64 will stomp all over the 2.8 in the tasks you have described. Just check some benchmarks. Reliability was a problem attributed to the chipsets years ago. AMD chipsets have been fast and reliable for years. In saving money you will not be compromising on reliability or performance. Buy the AMD, you will not be disappointed. Ben -- A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups. I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String... |
"Codemutant" wrote in message om... I am intel celeron 333mhz user.., I recently decided to buy a new computer. The system is most propably going to be used to run a linux version and do some serious programming. May be a little bit of games, movies.. and multimedia can also be thoght of in the Things-to-do list. I was thinking of buying an AMD64 3ghz based computer. But my friends are advicing me to go for an Intel pentium 2.8 HT system. They argue that AMD is unreliable and overheating of the cpu is very common. They said that for saving money i must not compramise on reliablity and performance in the long run. What should i buy: an intel based system or an AMD? Yes.. Many people feel this way. I say that they must have never (at least not within the past 7 or so years) used an AMD processor based system. Most of the problems that there are turn out to be chipset problems. (It's a good chance that the amd 915 and 925 chipset boards are going to be recalled too) (those are intel btw) Thermally speaking Tell your friends that the P4's use more Power (they'll probably just say that's cause the chips are faster) but Power translates into heat.. I am holding off on buying a new system right now JUST BECAUSE I want to move to pci express & ddr2 & btx (if that happens) all at once rather than buying tech today that might not work tomorrow. At the end of the day you'll need to do some reviews and find out what's going to be best for you.. the p4 ht 2.8 is good and should meet your requirements. you can get ddr2 (as long as it's faster than pc3200 then you'll be better off) and pci express with the current intel boards so that might be more important to you than the x86-64 processor. |
you can't go wrong either way. I've built about 7 athlon XP machines. None
of them have overheated, or had ANY problems for that matter. If I had a choice between a p4 2.8 or a Athlon 64, I would go for the Athlon...its cheaper, its cooler, and got cool and quiet, so the system will run quieter, and it supports 64bit, not just 32 like Intel. Chances are though, the average user really won't notice much of a difference between the 2 if your working in a 32 bit envirnment anyways. There are 64 bit versions of linux that you could run on the AMD, but not the Intel. Enjoy your new system, whatever it ends up being. "Codemutant" wrote in message om... I am intel celeron 333mhz user.., I recently decided to buy a new computer. The system is most propably going to be used to run a linux version and do some serious programming. May be a little bit of games, movies.. and multimedia can also be thoght of in the Things-to-do list. I was thinking of buying an AMD64 3ghz based computer. But my friends are advicing me to go for an Intel pentium 2.8 HT system. They argue that AMD is unreliable and overheating of the cpu is very common. They said that for saving money i must not compramise on reliablity and performance in the long run. What should i buy: an intel based system or an AMD? |
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body we I am intel celeron 333mhz user.., I recently decided to buy a new computer. The system is most propably going to be used to run linux and do some serious programming. May be a little bit of games, movies and multimedia can also be thoght of in the Things-to-do list. I was thinking of buying an AMD64 3ghz based computer. But my friends are advicing me to go for an Intel pentium 2.8 HT system. They argue that AMD is unreliable and overheating of the cpu is very common. They said that for saving money i must not compramise on reliablity and performance in the long run. What should i buy: an intel based system or an AMD? Tell your friends they are full of ****. I have been running AMD chips for years, and have had zero problems. While it is true that AMD's run hotter, its very easy to keep them cool. It means just add a case fan or two, and you're good to go (most Intel systems rely on only a CPU fan and the fan in the powersupply, which I dont like running on any system, no matter who makes it). As far as over heating, would they care to explain my AMD64 2800+ sitting right here at a cool 102 Fahrenheit (and the hottest it's ever been was 116 degrees under a full continuous workload), while I had a P2 450 overheat, and destroy the motherboard, video card, DVD drive, CD-RW, and sound card? I've yet to have a AMD chip overheat. They are just Intel Fanboys giving you some FUD. |
I like to advise go with AMD 64 system.
I have built three of those: One to my friend, one to my relative and now one to myself. We all are very happy with them. Just a week ago I built my new A64 3500+ based system. I'm glad I did... even thought it was not cheap! I could have built a very decent Intel Pentium based system cheaper... but I wanted AMD64 system with Socket939 based motherboard. With this system I have enabled the Cool'n' Quiet, the temperatures (System and CPU) are VERY low in normal usage. When fully loaded for long time the CPU temperatures get to "normal" range around 55C, but that's about 1-5% of the time my computer is on. I'd like to draw an analogy to a car: How often do you drive your car with gas pedal floored? Yes... not very often and absolutely not all the time. It just seems like with the old technology (Read: Intel) the "car" speed is adjusted by applying brakes, the gas is always floored! But with AMD we have the gas pedal we can press more or less depending on how fast the "car" needs to move. Smart? Yes, I think so too... I'm sure Intel will follow AMD with this (once again... ; ), and they will implement a dynamic power saving system with their Pentium "X" lines. Maybe once their desktop CPU's are based on Pentium M core soon (Yes, P4 will be dead not too much in the future...) they will have their version of Cool'n'Quiet for desktop processors. Instability? What is that? I have not noticed such a thing for a long time in any properly configured system. Be it Intel or AMD. "Codemutant" wrote in message om... I am intel celeron 333mhz user.., I recently decided to buy a new computer. The system is most propably going to be used to run a linux version and do some serious programming. May be a little bit of games, movies.. and multimedia can also be thoght of in the Things-to-do list. I was thinking of buying an AMD64 3ghz based computer. But my friends are advicing me to go for an Intel pentium 2.8 HT system. They argue that AMD is unreliable and overheating of the cpu is very common. They said that for saving money i must not compramise on reliablity and performance in the long run. What should i buy: an intel based system or an AMD? |
"Don McCarter" wrote in message ...
I have always used Intel CPU's until now. I built an AMD64 3200 machine and for a computer hobbyist like me it is great. It is much quieter that my son's Intel P4 3.0. I am running Fedore Core 2 64bit, WindowsXP64(free to download and use for one year) and WindowsXp pro. All of the above OS's work fine. In some cases the 64Bit is faster. "Ed" wrote in message ... On 25 Jun 2004 02:52:20 -0700, (Codemutant) wrote: I am intel celeron 333mhz user.., I recently decided to buy a new computer. The system is most propably going to be used to run a linux version and do some serious programming. May be a little bit of games, movies.. and multimedia can also be thoght of in the Things-to-do list. I was thinking of buying an AMD64 3ghz based computer. But my friends are advicing me to go for an Intel pentium 2.8 HT system. They argue that AMD is unreliable and overheating of the cpu is very common. They said that for saving money i must not compramise on reliablity and performance in the long run. What should i buy: an intel based system or an AMD? Any of those friends ever use an AMD 64 system (built correctly)? cause it sounds to me like they don't have a clue! I don't own a AMD64 but I have built 3 of them and get to use them on/off, 2 words - "Kick Ass" Ed --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 6/23/2004 The arguement i lose when debating with intelfans.. is "why then amd is cheaper than intel?? if the performance is high isnt it cheaper bcause it uses cheaper components???" ... any suggessions...? thanx for the replies i got... i finally made up my mind to buy an amd64 3.0ghz system. I am planning to use asus motherboard with the in build geforce. Do tell me tips to keep my amd cooler and in perfect working condition. |
"Codemutant" wrote in message om... | | | The arguement i lose when debating with intelfans.. is "why then amd | is cheaper than intel?? if the performance is high isnt it cheaper | bcause it uses cheaper components???" ... any suggessions...? | thanx for the replies i got... i finally made up my mind to buy an | amd64 3.0ghz system. I am planning to use asus motherboard with the in | build geforce. Do tell me tips to keep my amd cooler and in perfect | working condition. Howmany AMD commercials do you see, or AMD ads in general? How many Intel ads do you see? Overhead, and market share. Intel has the uninformed into thinking their computer must say "Intel inside" to run. Your typical average buyer has never ever heard of "AMD" or "Athlon". AMB has been and continues to gain market share as more and more people become educated to the fact that for most applications, AMD is superior to Intel. As for buying a 3GHz system, you will have to wait a while ;) . AMD makes systems that smoke intel 3GHz+ systems, but they do not make one @3GHz themselves yet. No need when they can smoke an Intel 3.4EE with a 2GHz CPU. |
"Hellmark" == Hellmark writes: Hellmark Codemutant's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged Hellmark through his body we I am intel celeron 333mhz user.., I recently decided to buy a new computer. The system is most propably going to be used to run linux and do some serious programming. May be a little bit of games, movies and multimedia can also be thoght of in the Things-to-do list. I was thinking of buying an AMD64 3ghz based computer. But my friends are advicing me to go for an Intel pentium 2.8 HT system. They argue that AMD is unreliable and overheating of the cpu is very common. They said that for saving money i must not compramise on reliablity and performance in the long run. What should i buy: an intel based system or an AMD? Hellmark Tell your friends they are full of ****. I have been Hellmark running AMD chips for years, and have had zero problems. Hellmark While it is true that AMD's run hotter, its very easy to Hellmark keep them cool. It means just add a case fan or two, and Hellmark you're good to go (most Intel systems rely on only a CPU Hellmark fan and the fan in the powersupply, which I dont like Hellmark running on any system, no matter who makes it). As far as Hellmark over heating, would they care to explain my AMD64 2800+ Hellmark sitting right here at a cool 102 Fahrenheit (and the Hellmark hottest it's ever been was 116 degrees under a full Hellmark continuous workload), while I had a P2 450 overheat, and Hellmark destroy the motherboard, video card, DVD drive, CD-RW, and Hellmark sound card? I've yet to have a AMD chip overheat. They are Hellmark just Intel Fanboys giving you some FUD. I would concur with that. All these chips can get very hot and require properly setup cooling. AMD64 has the edge with gaming benchmarks. P4 still have an edge with video encoding. Either system will be more than great. Some benchmarks show faster compiling with AMD64. The question is should you wait or not? That is probably the hardest question to answer. Both AMD and Intel are coming out with new chipsets and sockets. Go to some hardware sites and look around. Good luck! |
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