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123xxxxx July 30th 03 03:14 PM

fax/adsl modem
 
can any1 tell me if this modem has fax on it plz

http://www.pcnextday.co.uk/product_d...ef_site=kelkoo



Perdita X. Dream July 30th 03 03:42 PM

123xxxxx wrote:
can any1 tell me if this modem has fax on it plz


http://www.pcnextday.co.uk/product_d...ef_site=kelkoo

And what part of "it is impossible to fax via ADSL" are you having problems
with, exactly? I explained why it isn't possible and an ASDL 'modem' isn't a
modem at all - it is a network connection to a vast wide area network. This
goes for ALL ASDL 'modems'. You can only fax via an analogue 56k (or lower)
modem that connects directly to your phone line. Now will you please cease
and desist as the answer is always going to be the same! Faxing requires the
recognition of tone pulses which an ASDL 'modem' is incapable of decoding.
If it cannot recognise tone pulses, how do you propose dial the fax numbers,
pray?

Some people just don't know when to quit...


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123xxxxx July 30th 03 03:53 PM

excuse me, but 1 min i bin told that there are some around and i did see 1
on the web, but was looking for something so i didnt bother bookmarking it
or taking much notice to it, i am sure i saw it but cannot remember where it
is. also you have given hardly a reason to beleive you as 'the modem' leaves
the line free for telephone and other fax machine, why not an internal fax
machine with 'the modem' as you put it

"Perdita X. Dream" wrote in message
...
123xxxxx wrote:
can any1 tell me if this modem has fax on it plz



http://www.pcnextday.co.uk/product_d...ef_site=kelkoo

And what part of "it is impossible to fax via ADSL" are you having

problems
with, exactly? I explained why it isn't possible and an ASDL 'modem' isn't

a
modem at all - it is a network connection to a vast wide area network.

This
goes for ALL ASDL 'modems'. You can only fax via an analogue 56k (or

lower)
modem that connects directly to your phone line. Now will you please cease
and desist as the answer is always going to be the same! Faxing requires

the
recognition of tone pulses which an ASDL 'modem' is incapable of decoding.
If it cannot recognise tone pulses, how do you propose dial the fax

numbers,
pray?

Some people just don't know when to quit...


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Ken July 30th 03 04:21 PM

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:14:49 +0000 (UTC), "123xxxxx"
wrote:

can any1 tell me if this modem has fax on it plz

http://www.pcnextday.co.uk/product_d...ef_site=kelkoo



No it has no faxmodem function because it is a ADSL-modem.
ADSL and the telefon system have no connection.
You have to use a normal telefon modem for fax.



Some One July 30th 03 05:55 PM

The ONLY way an ADSL modem can do faxing is if there is a completely
separate regulare fax modem built inside.

Save yourself TONS of hassle and just get a regular fax modem for your
PC and use two phone jacks in the wall.

"123xxxxx" wrote in message
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can any1 tell me if this modem has fax on it plz


http://www.pcnextday.co.uk/product_d...ef_site=kelkoo





Perdita X. Dream July 30th 03 06:03 PM

123xxxxx wrote:
excuse me, but 1 min i bin told that there are some around and i did see 1
on the web, but was looking for something so i didnt bother bookmarking it
or taking much notice to it, i am sure i saw it but cannot remember where

it
is. also you have given hardly a reason to beleive you as 'the modem'

leaves
the line free for telephone and other fax machine, why not an internal fax
machine with 'the modem' as you put it



You're still not attending those remedial English classes, are you? OK, as
you won't believe me, or anyone else who's told you the same thing, may I
suggest you follow the Google Groups link in my signature and enter "faxing
ADSL" in one of the search boxes. You'll have your answer then. Or, if
you're still not convinced (and someone as stubborn as you is going to take
a LOT of convincing) then try these links: -

http://www.fida.com/faq/faqs_for_hur...0_adsl_mod.htm

http://www.btofaq.net/articles/misc/internet2fax.html

http://www.eicon.com/support/helpweb...x_and_adsl.asp

And if that doesn't convince you then I give up. You're either too
stubborn - or too thick (or, probably, both).

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SleeperMan July 30th 03 06:17 PM

wrote:
123xxxxx wrote:
can any1 tell me if this modem has fax on it plz



http://www.pcnextday.co.uk/product_d...ode=2110-3010&
group=MRIM&pgroup=MOD&ref_site=kelkoo

And what part of "it is impossible to fax via ADSL" are you having
problems with, exactly? I explained why it isn't possible and an ASDL
'modem' isn't a modem at all - it is a network connection to a vast
wide area network. This goes for ALL ASDL 'modems'. You can only fax
via an analogue 56k (or lower) modem that connects directly to your phone

line
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Wrong. You can fax with ISDN modem, too



Ken July 30th 03 06:36 PM

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:17:23 +0200, "SleeperMan"
wrote:

Wrong. You can fax with ISDN modem, too


No, ISDN never use modem.
"ISDN modem" never exist.
ISDN is not a modem system, It's fully digital.
But!
Some ISDN-adapters includes an extra analog modem
that can be using for analog fax.



SleeperMan July 30th 03 08:28 PM

wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:17:23 +0200, "SleeperMan"
wrote:

Wrong. You can fax with ISDN modem, too


No, ISDN never use modem.
"ISDN modem" never exist.
ISDN is not a modem system, It's fully digital.
But!
Some ISDN-adapters includes an extra analog modem
that can be using for analog fax.


Wrong again. YOU can send fax through ISDN line digitally. Sending fax is
digital anyway, It's just converted to analog. IF it's analog line, this is
done in analog modem, if it's digital, it's done in the central or at your
home, if you have ISDN. How do you connect analog fax to ISDN line? you must
have digital to analog converter and that is what SOME ISDN modems have
built-in. But not all. Analog part (if exists) is used onyl for connecting
analog phones to it. Bu tit can't be done with regular programs for sending
faxes via analog modem. It must be a program for ISDN.
But in any case, that analog part is NOT intended for modem to be capable of
SENDING faxes, but more for RECEIVING them via normal analog fax machine. If
you receive it with computer, you don't even need that analog part.

And modem is general word, as ISDN modem, ADSL modem, calbe modem... they
are all so-called modems, so don't be so picky. We all know, what it means.




123xxxxx July 30th 03 09:02 PM

WHAT THE EICON SAYS IT BULL, IT LIKE SAYING THE TELEPHONE SHARES THE SAME
LINE AND YOU CANT DIAL OUT, LIKE HELL YOU CANT

"Perdita X. Dream" wrote in message
...
123xxxxx wrote:
excuse me, but 1 min i bin told that there are some around and i did see

1
on the web, but was looking for something so i didnt bother bookmarking

it
or taking much notice to it, i am sure i saw it but cannot remember

where
it
is. also you have given hardly a reason to beleive you as 'the modem'

leaves
the line free for telephone and other fax machine, why not an internal

fax
machine with 'the modem' as you put it



You're still not attending those remedial English classes, are you? OK, as
you won't believe me, or anyone else who's told you the same thing, may I
suggest you follow the Google Groups link in my signature and enter

"faxing
ADSL" in one of the search boxes. You'll have your answer then. Or, if
you're still not convinced (and someone as stubborn as you is going to

take
a LOT of convincing) then try these links: -

http://www.fida.com/faq/faqs_for_hur...0_adsl_mod.htm

http://www.btofaq.net/articles/misc/internet2fax.html

http://www.eicon.com/support/helpweb...x_and_adsl.asp

And if that doesn't convince you then I give up. You're either too
stubborn - or too thick (or, probably, both).

--
Perdita X. Dream

Please help us to help you
http://groups.google.com
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm.
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Keep all posts to the groups as private requests for assistance
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